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JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
[url="http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/2002/08/news20020829.html"]The Light Saber[/url]
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  • FaylornFaylorn Elite Ranger
    Damn... looks good... [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/cool.gif[/img]

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  • shadow boxershadow boxer The Finger Painter & Master Ranter
    peh... [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]

    **looks over at the collection of genuine steel blades and his shinai**

    that thing looks cool

    but it wont tear anyone a new arse... [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
  • Rogue TraderRogue Trader Somebody stop him...
    may not tear one but sure as hell could poke one.
  • some other company has been making those things for awhile, only theirs looked much better (The blades anyway)

    price is simular though

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  • Speaking of weapons, I got a vintage smurai sword my grandpa brought back from the pacific. I should really get that thing polished one of these days.

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    Ok so it's not exactly Max's journal but I think it's good
    http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40551
  • WHY_oldWHY_old Elite Ranger
    Real or the WWII-era ones ?
  • Honstly, I have no idea how old it is.

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    Ok so it's not exactly Max's journal but I think it's good
    http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40551
  • Probably the same one my grandfather brought back, which was a simple WWII vintaged one. Not reall folded steel, not even tempered steel as far as I can tell, but probably a hell of a lot better than any of those decorative blades people buy these days. I pull it out and play around with it when my parents aren't looking, and I think I've figured out how to do a respectable Battoutsu with it. Fast enough to cut someone trying to draw a long sword or great sword down, anyways.

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  • shadow boxershadow boxer The Finger Painter & Master Ranter
    alot of the WW2 Officers swords where 'modern' and not particularly good blades, that said they are still worth something to collectors.

    Very very few blades were genuine old Samurai/Feudal era blades and most times they belonged to old Samurai families who happened to have Officers in the Army.

    Get it appraised mate. If you have a 'real' one you could buy several houses with the proceeds of its sale. If not you have a pretty cool bit of militaria.

    Have a look at the quality of the furniture, ( the tsuba/guard, the hilt etc), if that looks cheap or mass produced chances are the blade will be too. Also look for temper lines. There should be a fairly distinct difference between the back half/two thirds of the blade and the cutting edge. The line between these two areas is also important, if it is very even and symetrical then it may be a 'cheap' blade, but if the line is 'interesting' having character and lots of movement or shapes and a distinctly 'hand made' feel then you may have a real prize. There are legends about lost WW2 blades, perhaps that's all they are but still....

    its worth the peace of mind. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [quote]Originally posted by A2597:
    [b]some other company has been making those things for awhile, only theirs looked much better (The blades anyway)

    price is simular though[/b][/quote]

    Yeah, I've seen that. Their blades are strong enough to have proper swordfights with as well.

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  • RubberEagleRubberEagle What's a rubber eagle used for, anyway?
    [quote]Originally posted by Biggles:
    [b] Yeah, I've seen that. Their blades are strong enough to have proper swordfights with as well.

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    Who? What? Where? I want one [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]!!!
  • Yeah, I have a dual tempered carbon steel (not folded, but those are insanely expensive) katana, the fittings are very simple but sturdy, and the polish lines are harmon are all done fairly well. Not too dull either [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]

    One thing - if you are looking to get a japanese sword polished, and don't know the value, have it appraised first! If it is valuable, and you want it polished, it would be worth the money to have it done by a reputable professional polisher of japanese weapons. The polishing procedure is an art form in and of itself, and can make or break the value of any sword.
  • Now [b][url="http://www.parksabers.com"]that[/url][/b] is what I'm talkin' about! (www.parksabers.com)

    Add one of [b][url="http://www.ziplink.net/~cloak/jed_gal.html"]these[/url][/b] and you can be the biggest geek on your block!

    No! I most certainly don't have these.


    ... yet. I have to save up. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/shyshad.gif[/img]




    [This message has been edited by John Walker (edited 09-12-2002).]
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    Oh my... the Malestrom is cool!!! [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]

    [img]http://www.parksabers.com/2002models/malestrom11.jpg[/img]
  • StrikerStriker Provided with distinction
    Must...resist......shield wavering....cannot hold out...much...longer..........

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  • nerds [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/tongue.gif[/img]

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  • WORFWORF The Burninator
    If you only knew the power of the dark side!

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    Worf (Darth Angelus, Dark Lord of the Sith!)

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  • I can feel the hate welling in me now...

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  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Worf: WHy does your lightsaber look limp? [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]

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  • FaylornFaylorn Elite Ranger
    Biggles: why are you so interested in the RECTITUDE of a long, rod-shaped object? [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]

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  • worf you are uber nerd [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]

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  • EternityEternity Elite Ranger
    You goys know that an origional (fudal sp) Sumari Sword has the steel in the blade folded 200 times - by hand! jeez. THat must take AGES! But they can cot through pretty much anything - including other peoples swords on the odd occasion. Now THAT is sharp!

    Darm! I want an origional Sumari Sword but the Japanese goverment is set on buying all of the origional ones that come on the market!
  • shadow boxershadow boxer The Finger Painter & Master Ranter
    (dang.... there is such a thing as a spellchecker mate)

    there is one well propogated myth about Katana and other Japanese traditional blades. Even the absolute best Smiths didn't fold thier blades as much as is often quoted. There is a little point of confusion that helps to muddy the waters as well. A good katana can have upto one million folded layers, but, thats a product of the process of folding.

    If you fold the steel in half you get two layers, flatten it out and fold it again and you get four layers, flattening and folding that in turn nets you eight layers and so it goes. After six folds you have four million layers. In truth alot of Smiths stopped short of any more than six, because the layers became effectively invisible being so tightly grained. Aesthetics were as important as strength and cutting power.

    The real technical excellence Japanese Smiths expressed was not so much in the folding, it was in the production of what were effectively composite blades, a soft but flexible outer shell and a super hard and consequently sharp edged core forged as one. They also used pure iron and carbon, no chrome-moly, vanadium or rare earths in a real Japanese blade.

    Having said all that, I would love to see the reaction of some of the premier feudal Japanese Smiths, to a good Spanish Toledo Rapier or Foil...

    The Japanese never knew anything about spring steel...
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    [quote]Originally posted by shadow boxer:
    [b]A good katana can have up to one million folded layers, but, thats a product of the process of folding.

    [i]After six folds you have four million layers.[/i]

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    Hmmmmmm... Last time I checked 6 to the power of 2 (folding) came out to 64 layers...

    [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]

    Unless this is new math or something.
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    [quote]Originally posted by shadow boxer:
    [b]The Japanese never knew anything about spring steel...[/b][/quote]

    Or making Light Sabers...

    [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
  • MessiahMessiah Failed Experiment
    Worf: Al`ngel in latin is spelled Angellus

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  • MessiahMessiah Failed Experiment
    erm, angel

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    Passive fields. January two thousand and twelve. A nation that stands alone. Cold voices, faces pale, Gathered unto their judgement day. Such words remain unspoken. Such pride remains unbroken. Just mothers to stand in vain and cry. Tears and medals in the rain. Shall I recall when justice did prevail? No reason to be found why reason did fail. The all clear resounding. The way was clear to rebuild this land. Shall I call on you to guide me well, To see our hopes and dreams fulfilled? On this day of our ascension.

    VNV Nation - Honour
  • BekennBekenn Sinclair's Duck
    Jack: that's 2 to the power of 6 = 64. 6 to the power of 2 is 36.

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  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    [quote]Originally posted by Bekenn:
    [b]Jack: that's 2 to the power of 6 = 64. 6 to the power of 2 is 36.

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  • shadow boxershadow boxer The Finger Painter & Master Ranter
    1+1=2
    2+2=4
    4+4=8
    8+8=16
    16+16=32
    32+32=1024 and this is where most Smiths ( esp during times of War) stopped.
    1024+1024=2048
    2048+2048=4096
    4096+4096=8192
    8192+8192=16384
    16384+16384=32768
    32768+32768=65536
    65536+65536=131072
    131072+131072=262144
    262144+262144=524288
    524288+524288=1048576

    at 16 folds you have over one million layers, twenty folds was usually the maximum, past this point and the carefully created layered grain just blended into each other, and while that means the steel is exceptionally strong, you could not tell it apart from the cheap nasty poorly forged stuff unless you were a Smith or someone with expectional knowledge...

    forgive my enfeebled creative mind... unlike Jack here...

    **grabs Jack in a very friendly FULL NELSON**

    who's Brain works exceedingly well with numbers, which makes me wonder just how truly... grhhh.... creative he ... grrrmmmh.....really is...

    AH HAH ! LOOK ! A zipper on the back of his neck ! LOOK !

    ***GRrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiizzzzzzzzzzzz***

    As I suspected... an Astrophysics and Vulcanology Professor, complete with pyrometer and telescope. I'm sorry Jack but I'm afraid your going to have to hand in your ID and all your coloured Crayons, we can't have Egg heads in Creative positions, it just wouldn't do...

    [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
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