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Spontaneous idea for a B5 fan movie
I just had such a great idea...
has anyone considered the possibility of making a new B5 short film ourselves? Just a happy little firstones.com project. It just dawned on me that since it is very easy to do editing/compositing and 3d animation, it should not be all that hard. And we have some damn good writers here!
I'm sure we can all agree that full-size sets would be too costly and time consuming to build. But I'm sure a few could be modelled in full 3d in someone's spare time. Since we've seen so many areas in such detail, it'd be a little easier.
But how would the actors/actresses get there? Compositing. Using a large blue or green screen behind the camera, film footage could be inserted into the scene, and using multiple layers, could interact with it.
All that really has to be acquired are uniforms, cameras, and big blue/green sheets or screens. Wouldn't it be interesting if we could collaborate to create a video to satisfy our craving for this show? I do... [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
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[b]Sanfam[/b] - Pixel Pirates
[b][url="http://www.firstones.com/sanfam/guru.doc"]disillusionment[/b] v1.0[/url]; "We will have our day, we will have our future, and we will have our revolution."
Come and listen to the official shoutcast server of Firstones.com! It's Spootastic! [url="http://sanfam.dyndns.org:8000"]http://sanfam.dyndns.org:8000[/url]
"It is the year 2000. Where are the flying cars? I was Promised flying cars. I don't see any flying cars." -- Avery "Sisko" Brooks
has anyone considered the possibility of making a new B5 short film ourselves? Just a happy little firstones.com project. It just dawned on me that since it is very easy to do editing/compositing and 3d animation, it should not be all that hard. And we have some damn good writers here!
I'm sure we can all agree that full-size sets would be too costly and time consuming to build. But I'm sure a few could be modelled in full 3d in someone's spare time. Since we've seen so many areas in such detail, it'd be a little easier.
But how would the actors/actresses get there? Compositing. Using a large blue or green screen behind the camera, film footage could be inserted into the scene, and using multiple layers, could interact with it.
All that really has to be acquired are uniforms, cameras, and big blue/green sheets or screens. Wouldn't it be interesting if we could collaborate to create a video to satisfy our craving for this show? I do... [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
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[b]Sanfam[/b] - Pixel Pirates
[b][url="http://www.firstones.com/sanfam/guru.doc"]disillusionment[/b] v1.0[/url]; "We will have our day, we will have our future, and we will have our revolution."
Come and listen to the official shoutcast server of Firstones.com! It's Spootastic! [url="http://sanfam.dyndns.org:8000"]http://sanfam.dyndns.org:8000[/url]
"It is the year 2000. Where are the flying cars? I was Promised flying cars. I don't see any flying cars." -- Avery "Sisko" Brooks
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[b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
Worf
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Captain Gideon: I thought you said you dont hold a grudge?
Galen: I dont, I have no surviving enemies...at all
Ave Primo-Populi (Hail the Firstones)
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[b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
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'The future is all around us' G'kar
'I have no surviving enemies! None what so ever!' Galen
Visit my B5 site at: [url="http://www.nialb5.com"]www.NialB5.com[/url].
If we were to go compleatly animation, yea the quality wouldn't be good (I'm thinking something like the early sev treks) but we could make it entertaining. I know I would lend my pipes to this project.
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"Ambassador we all know that the first casulty of war is the truth."
-John Sheridan
Ok so it's not exactly Max's journal but I think it's good
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40551
Well, I don't quite mean as just a spoof.
I'm talking about a real, genuine non-snake oil B5 Fan Film. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
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'The future is all around us' G'kar
'I have no surviving enemies! None what so ever!' Galen
Visit my B5 site at: [url="http://www.nialb5.com"]www.NialB5.com[/url].
I think this is in essence a good idea, althogh i don't think these things are usually internet collaborations, mostly groups of freinds.
I was considering doing a StarWars fan film with some of my old uni friends, but B5 would be way better.
These days it would be "easy" to make a good quality fan film, digital camcorders are everywhere and some of the editing software is free, it is very dooable.
I think green screen and models (CG or miniture) is the way to go, but we need to sort of plan, we are all a long way apart.
Perhaps we should start to write a story, and continue to suggest how we get together, to do something...
I'm sure that makes up for a long absense...
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[url="http://www.seven-point-star.co.uk/"]http://www.seven-point-star.co.uk/[/url]
currently down...
[b]Well I think we should all film on location in New Zeland... all the biggest and coolest films have been done down there and I'm sure Biggles wouldn't mind putting us all up for a few months while we make this epic! Could end up like Apocolypse When? though.... [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]
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Pay for round trip air fare from Denver to Auckland and I'll be there.
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"Ambassador we all know that the first casulty of war is the truth."
-John Sheridan
Ok so it's not exactly Max's journal but I think it's good
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40551
[quote]Originally posted by Falcon1:
[b]Well I think we should all film on location in New Zeland... all the biggest and coolest films have been done down there and I'm sure Biggles wouldn't mind putting us all up for a few months while we make this epic! Could end up like Apocolypse When? though.... [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img][/b][/quote]
Yes, all those mountains that B5 has inside it can be represented beautifully by the Southern Alps. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
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[b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
Summer is coming, so I would have a few free months to get the ball rolling on this if no-one else wants to step up and get the show on track.
We could work on 3d models of the characters instead of using live actors, then hold auditions for the characters who already have had their voices onscreen.
Alternately, we could just use 3d for ships and backgrounds, then do more traditional animation for the characters. Similar to parts of Titan AE. Does anyone know of any software that would make this feasible? With an effort of 20 guys or so, we should be able to complete a novel in a few months.
And it just occured to me, a few characters already exist: [url="http://mods.firstones.com/thesims/"]http://mods.firstones.com/thesims/[/url]
We could probably devise a way to convert these over to LWO or 3ds to render and use. The characters wouldn't have to be much more complex than that if we opt that route. Recognizable is good. If it does well, we could always go back alter and render better ones.
Meshes already exist of most or all of the ships that we would need, so that part isn't hard. And I am sure someone could give up a bit of their time to design the backgrounds, since they would only have to be rendered once.
The important thing in a project of this undertaking would be to devise and timetable and stick to it.
Contributions can range from artists to people with spare CPU time to render the 3d scenes.
If anyone out there expresses their interest in contributing, I can start doing a short breakdown of what we need to accomplish etc this weekend, and get working once exams finish on the 26th.
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We are here to place President Grenewetzki under arrest!
that's something I've always wanted to do.
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[b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
[img]http://www.isd-imperium.co.uk/jedi.jpg[/img]
Worf
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Captain Gideon: I thought you said you dont hold a grudge?
Galen: I dont, I have no surviving enemies...at all
Ave Primo-Populi (Hail the Firstones)
[This message has been edited by WORF (edited 06-05-2002).]
But I think we should give it a go.
Maybe make a short little 5 minute spoof to test everything out and work out all the kinks.
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"Ambassador we all know that the first casulty of war is the truth."
-John Sheridan
Ok so it's not exactly Max's journal but I think it's good
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40551
Glad to have had a few responses.
My idea was CGI only, since it would cost each of us a fortune if we had to do up our own costumes and dig up cameras and find friends et all. Too hard to do it I think.... technically. We could film each actor seperately and composite them together, but that would be nearly impossible to sync up without some dedicated professionals working for us.
I think that going ahead and trying to produce a short would be a great idea. Maybe an excerpt from the Technomage Trilogy... I am thinking the sequence where Burrell tries to save Galen & Isabelle from the Drakh and Shadow on Zafran 8.
I will start storyboarding it out at work this weekend.
My friend who has a vague interest in B5, and training in doing modelling with 3ds, plus great artistic talent, is going to be helping with the organization work at my end.
Here is what I think we will need:
- 5 or more modellers/animators
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- 2-3 people who have a really good knowledge of the Trilogy (I am one. Reading it for the fifth time right now) to do the scriptwriting/storyboarding.
- As many systems with people who have/can get whatever rendering program we do the scenes in (likely 3ds max), to speed up the length of time it takes.
My friend and I can likely handle the editing aspect. Since this is animated, we will likely decide on all the angles and everything before we even start animating.
I think this is going to be rather enjoyable...
I am going to put up a post on the frontpage directing anyone interested in helping over here.
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Well, I can always donate CPU cycles to rendering. I've got numerous systems which can bear the load.
Jake