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Vista upgrade flowchart:

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  • Space GhostSpace Ghost Elite Ranger
    Classic. :D

    I'm fearful of upgrading because I'm not sure what to expect. As we all know, Microsoft's track record has been less than stellar when it comes to new operating systems. Moreover, Windows XP has been fine for me since service pack 1. I just upgraded my video card (a discussion for another post) and added more RAM but I'm still afraid it won't be enough.
  • *cough*DRM*cough*

    [url]http://techreport.com/etc/2007q1/vista-licensing/index.x?pg=1[/url]

    that article is a darn good read.
  • Space GhostSpace Ghost Elite Ranger
    For me, upgrading my PC isn't too much of an option anymore as I have done almost everything I can do to it short of getting a new motherboard / processor (at that point I might as well buy a new PC). So reactivating a copy of Vista on my current PC after a major upgrade really isn't an issue.
  • Space GhostSpace Ghost Elite Ranger
    Well, after doing some reading what I suspected is true: the bottom line is if you're happy with Windows XP, then wait for a bit to upgrade, maybe when you buy a new PC. I'll be due for one in a couple of years anyway, so I'll wait.
  • Falcon1Falcon1 Elite Ranger
    Hee brilliant. Doing the rounds with our support team now :) We're holding off on Vista for a bit. If new machines ordered come with Vista then that will do. But for staff wanting to upgrade we're saying no for now.
  • I try to stay as far away from Windows as I can these days. Don't want to open a window and fall out only to find I can't suicide cause of BSOD.
  • Entil'ZhaEntil'Zha I see famous people
    i ran Vista Beta 2 on my laptop for a while when i couldnt get XP to install,

    This was a few year old P4 1.8ghz HP laptop with 1.5 gigs of ram, and vista actually ran very well on it. I was quite suprised.
  • ShadowDancerShadowDancer When I say, "Why aye, gadgie," in my heart I say, "Och aye, laddie." London, UK
    heh i think that chart is great!

    im only getting vist because i get a free upgrade on my new laptop. if i dont like it then im going straight back to xp
  • DaxDax Redshirt
    I don't have money to burn so the chart tells me not to upgrade :P
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ShadowDancer [/i]
    [B]im only getting vist because i get a free upgrade on my new laptop. if i dont like it then im going straight back to xp [/B][/QUOTE]

    Consider yourself lucky. My planned laptop upgrade is likely to have only Vista. :(
  • MundaneMundane Elite Ranger
    Running Vista on my laptop, havent had any problems at all.
  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    Reports are saying that the current nivida drivers are crap and ati aren't that great either.
  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    Yeah...for me upgrade (retail) runs $400 every year or so. Thus I will not be doing it. Instead I'm buying a Mac Pro.

    Why is it $400 for an OS?

    I have dual monitor. Can't use Home.

    I want support for video and games. Can't use Business.

    I want support for business apps. Can't use Media.

    Thus I have to use Ultimate - $400 includes 1 upgraded item (ram, video card, etc) before it disables itself.

    I upgrade stuff at least every year.

    Thus: $400 yearly for having ultimate. Nope, that's just not worth it.
  • I have been reading around and looking at the sales and i think vista is a dud. A processor that was over 1000 a year ago is now $349.99, and get this, it comes with a 64-bit edition vista.

    [url]http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2880891&sku=A64-FX60-BASIC[/url]

    Then I read that some guy bought 2 Nvidia 8800gtx video cards for like 1400 dollars with Vista and he can't even use because of lack of drivers and no SLI support. What a waste of money for useless DX10 hardware. WHAT A HORROR!!!!
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    I'll hunt down XP 64 just to have it before it disappears...

    Vista is a big no for me. I especially want nothing to do with an OS that has anything like RDM in it...

    My Machine is my business, I'm buying an OS, not somebody's opinion of what I can and can't run on it.
  • ArethusaArethusa Universal Cathode
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Dax [/i]
    [B]I don't have money to burn so the chart tells me not to upgrade :P [/B][/QUOTE]
    Who the hell actually pays for Windows?
  • Vorlons in my HeadVorlons in my Head The Vorlons told me to.
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Random Chaos [/i]
    [B]Yeah...for me upgrade (retail) runs $400 every year or so. Thus I will not be doing it. Instead I'm buying a Mac Pro.

    Why is it $400 for an OS?

    I have dual monitor. Can't use Home.

    I want support for video and games. Can't use Business.

    I want support for business apps. Can't use Media.

    Thus I have to use Ultimate - $400 includes 1 upgraded item (ram, video card, etc) before it disables itself.

    I upgrade stuff at least every year.

    Thus: $400 yearly for having ultimate. Nope, that's just not worth it. [/B][/QUOTE]

    I think you're confused about a few things. First, Vista is actually more relaxed on activation than XP when it comes to hardware upgrades. Second, if you upgrade something and it locks out you do realize that doesn't mean you need to buy another copy right? Just call up the activation hotline and they'll reset your key. I do it all the time with XP.

    Finally there shouldn't be any reason why you can't run business apps or games on Media or Business. Actually I'm pretty sure the only difference between Ultimate and Business is the Media PC features. Business is basically exactly the same thing 2K and XP pro are. Ultimate merges the features that used to be Media Center Edition. In XP you had to choose bewteen having all the fancy MCE stuff but be stuck with the Home core or the choose the advanced features of Professional edition but forgo the Media features. Ultimate joined the two versions. Imagine it as the full installed version of windows.

    I'm going to buy Vista because I wan't to support MS' global domination :P
  • Vorlons in my HeadVorlons in my Head The Vorlons told me to.
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Arethusa [/i]
    [B]Who the hell actually pays for Windows? [/B][/QUOTE]

    There are still ways around it but the bastards have made it harder to keep a fully functional version without a legit key. I personally have all perfectly legit XP copies... But I don't pay for them. I just copy the serial keys from the license sticker on the cases of the work PC's. They use volume corporate licenses so the actual individual keys are never used. OEM keys won't give a succesful activation but if you call MS up and say its your key and are reinstalling they'll activate it :D
  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    I'm refering to networking we development apps. The networking end of Home and Media is rather...limited...compared to Business and Ultimate.
  • ArethusaArethusa Universal Cathode
    WGA cracks are trivially easy to apply for XP, and I doubt Vista cracks are far away. I'll upgrade to Vista largely because the only reason I still use Windows is gaming, and there's no point in sticking with XP when XP isn't going to be supported for DX10, new drivers, new games, etc. If it weren't for that, I'd probably have switched to ubuntu long ago.
  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    I understand that an early version DX10 has already been hacked and backported to XP. Won't be long before the final version is so.
  • ArethusaArethusa Universal Cathode
    That's always dicey. We saw the same shit with people running 98 when XP hit. Where are those people now?
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Vorlons in my Head [/i]
    [B]There are still ways around it but the bastards have made it harder to keep a fully functional version without a legit key. [/b][/quote]

    Yes. Damn them for trying to stop people stealing their product.

    [quote][b]I personally have all perfectly legit XP copies... But I don't pay for them. I just copy the serial keys from the license sticker on the cases of the work PC's. They use volume corporate licenses so the actual individual keys are never used. OEM keys won't give a succesful activation but if you call MS up and say its your key and are reinstalling they'll activate it :D [/B][/QUOTE]

    Do you have permission from the entity that paid for those license keys to use them? :)
  • ArethusaArethusa Universal Cathode
    It's not theft. Stop mixing legal metaphors.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Fine then. Damn them for trying to stop people infringing on their intellectual property rights.
  • ArethusaArethusa Universal Cathode
    More accurate.

    Really, I wonder at phrases like DRM. The concept of "rights management" in all its authoritarian glory is nothing short of horrific. I read an essay in high school that argued that DRM constituted a crime against humanity. I'm still not entirely convinced it was hyperbolic.
  • I think those penguins are starting to look better for my pc and ps3.
  • ArethusaArethusa Universal Cathode
    Wow. I didn't know anything about Yellow Dog on the PS3. Is there any actual point to that?

    Also, if you don't game and don't need a lot of Windows compatibility (eg business and some crappier academic software, mainly), there's no real good reason not to run Linux.
  • I am still waiting for the ps3 keyboard to come out then I might give it a swirl. Then run some emulators for who knows what off my living room plasma.
  • ArethusaArethusa Universal Cathode
    Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy some compound adapters for your computer?
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