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Future Human-Minbari conflict?
Anti-Matter
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in Babylon 5
Just wondering about this. This is a little vague, but i remember a character, perhaps one of the Old Ones (Lorien??) who comments about the current and future Human-Minbari relations. Saying something along the lines of "they will remain friends, for now".
If there was another Human-Minbari conflict, then i'd imagine Humans would be in a much better position to inflict damage. Whilst they aren't as advanced nor powerful as the Minbari, i understand that Humans are second behind the Minbari in terms of power. Plus they've advanced a little since the days of the Earth-Minbari. They have the 'Warlock' class vessel, which is meant to be able to stand against the Sharlin Warcruiser. Also the developement of the Thunderbolt Star Fury, whilst nothing matches the Niall Minbari fighter, i believe the Thunderbolt probably bridges the gap a little.
Also the Minbari aren't shown to have advanced technologically that much in their 1000 years as a spacefaring race. But Humans seem to acquire and develope technology quicker after the
Earth-Minbari war.
How do Humans measure up against the Minbari in hand-to-hand combat? I know the Minbari are meant to have higher stamina and be able to withstand more damage, but could Humans match them with say genetic manipulation?
If there was another Human-Minbari conflict, then i'd imagine Humans would be in a much better position to inflict damage. Whilst they aren't as advanced nor powerful as the Minbari, i understand that Humans are second behind the Minbari in terms of power. Plus they've advanced a little since the days of the Earth-Minbari. They have the 'Warlock' class vessel, which is meant to be able to stand against the Sharlin Warcruiser. Also the developement of the Thunderbolt Star Fury, whilst nothing matches the Niall Minbari fighter, i believe the Thunderbolt probably bridges the gap a little.
Also the Minbari aren't shown to have advanced technologically that much in their 1000 years as a spacefaring race. But Humans seem to acquire and develope technology quicker after the
Earth-Minbari war.
How do Humans measure up against the Minbari in hand-to-hand combat? I know the Minbari are meant to have higher stamina and be able to withstand more damage, but could Humans match them with say genetic manipulation?
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I definitely remember a quote about how they would remain cordial for the time being, as if to imply there may be some conflict in the future.
Still their fighters are second to none, as for the Thunderbolts, never been tried.
We also know a fair bit about the future of the B5 universe. Nothing did happen beyond what we saw in Deconstruction, but that was simply one component of the galaxy turning in on itself, involving none of the minbariness.
This would also mean the technology would be of little conequence, since both would have evolved so far that the difference would be very minimal.
Jake
[B]jms has said both achieve firstones status, however I can't remember if they merge into one species or not. [/B][/QUOTE]
Wouldnt it be Secondones? since you can't have firstones coming after the firstones, or else they would have been firstones.
Did i just make myself as clear as mud?
Also, I’m not too sure where you heard that remark about the two races being “friends for now”, but I’d wager they could be referring to that other scene in Deconstruction where Earth had become isolationistic and there was an anti-alien or pro-earth faction ready to launch missiles rather than work within the bounds of the ISA. And we also saw that there was a time when Earth was recovering from some “Great Burn” and they had to rebuild with only scant knowledge of their past amongst the stars.
Just because they may not have been friends doesnt automatically make them enimies.
[B]Just because they may not have been friends doesnt automatically make them enimies. [/B][/QUOTE]
Very true.
And technically it would of course be secondones Enthil'zha. :p
i know, semantics.. but still.
They dont want you to know that they are affecting your thinking, steering you their way. Like an overprotective, manipulative parent..
Jake
It could also be a result of the manipulation of the Vorlons in the past, how they were viewed as gods so of course when Humans get to that level they emulated what came before.
Which I suppose solidifies their status as Secondones.
Anyway, it's been a long time since I saw deconstruction but I think he wore the encounter suit to kind of show that he was playing god just like the Vorlons did. They looked after humanity after the burn. Had rangers infiltrated into Earth's society. Taught what the rangers did, Sheriden and Delenn as a religion to show that they were the good guys. It's not a far stretch to think they came down in light form to manipulate society. Anyway, sounds a lot like the Vorlons. Him going into the encounter suit at the end just pushes the point home. Anyway, just a guess.
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Anyway, it's been a long time since I saw deconstruction but I think he wore the encounter suit to kind of show that he was playing god just like the Vorlons did. They looked after humanity after the burn. Had rangers infiltrated into Earth's society. Taught what the rangers did, Sheriden and Delenn as a religion to show that they were the good guys. It's not a far stretch to think they came down in light form to manipulate society. Anyway, sounds a lot like the Vorlons. Him going into the encounter suit at the end just pushes the point home. Anyway, just a guess. [/B][/QUOTE]
Hmm, great guess but I believe the great burn happened only 500 to 1000 years after B5 if memory serves me. Its highly unlikely any of the younger races could have evolved within that small a time frame. Also the guy in the encounter suit at the end was from a million years later.
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It could be that it takes [B]alot[/B] of energy to maintain a certain form, like Kosh stated in 'The Fall of Night'. Maybe encounter suits for protection as well.
As for future Earth - Minbari relations, think about this. Human DNA + Minbari DNA + Time = Potential first-one status.
Old topic i know, but very interesting :D
I still laugh at the fact that it was the recreated simulation of Garibaldi that was at fault that caused the Great Burn to occur...
That was a great episode!
:D
Some of us know a little secret about the Warlock class from a JMS short Story concerning Ivanova.
:)