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New B5 books NOT canon

WORFWORF The Burninator
[URL=http://www.jmsnews.com/msg.aspx?id=1-17407]Link[/URL]

For those who dont want to read it, Mongoose asked JMS to consult with them but refused to pay him properly, so he refused.

So the books won't be considered canon.

Worf

Comments

  • Ugh. There goes my hopes for Crusade maybe being finished up with them.
  • ShadowDancerShadowDancer When I say, "Why aye, gadgie," in my heart I say, "Och aye, laddie." London, UK
    maybe, maybe not. i think JMS has every right to tell them to sod off. without him they wouldnt even have a story to write about!
  • Long time lurker, first tim poster, so why not start off on the right foot. The view from Mongoose is a wee bit diferent
    "Hi guys,

    Okay, I have a slightly different recollection of events. There was no
    silence at first - we had quite a rapid exchange of emails. I never
    expected anyone to work on this project for free but I believe I was very
    honest when I said I had no idea what your time was _worth_. No idea.
    None. Never worked with anyone in your position before. Furthermore, that
    offer was not the final one - we offered 10% of the revenue, the same
    portion that Warner Brothers gets for the novels.


    That is when the silence kicked in - you did not get back to us, did not
    discuss it. We could have tried to work something out.


    The important thing to remember here is that Mongoose is not Warner
    Brothers. We are a small company employing 20 or so people. We cannot
    throw money around with abandon on any project, especially as we are limited
    to the UK market only (I believe it is Del Ray who have the US licence).
    There is no guarantee that a new range of Babylon 5 novels will prove
    successful in the UK and, at the end of the day, we have a business to run.


    To put things into perspective, if we were to print and sell an entire print
    run of, say, 10,000 novels, the profit is only a few thousand pounds after
    printing and distribution costs. That is if we sell all 10,000. Sell half
    that and we are at a loss. This is before Warner Brothers comes along and
    takes their bite, plus any percentage we offered to Mr Straczynski. I must
    point out, it is not the profit I have my eyes on with these figures but
    whether the project would end up costing more than it would bring in - which
    is obviously a huge problem with a business.


    I can say that everyone at Mongoose is greatly dedicated to Babylon 5 and,
    in our own way, we have been carrying the B5 banner for the past three years
    with our games and a range of over 20 sourcebooks. I believe (I may be
    wrong) that we have printed more Babylon 5 material than any other
    publisher. We take this universe seriously.


    I would like to extend an offer to Mr Straczynski to re-open negotiations
    and, if there is a way we can find to work together, we would like to move
    forwards. We have a lot of very exciting ideas for Babylon 5, across a
    variety of media, that we would like to discuss. We very much want to carry
    the banner further and I believe we have a lot to offer fans of the series.


    You have my email. Please give me a shout.


    Matthew Sprange
    Mongoose Publishing "



    And they didn't ask him for story ideas and such, they asked him to approve or reject plot summaries to make sure that they have already come up with so it fits the struff in his head not yet produced.

    Matt
  • RhettRhett (Not even a monkey)
    In that case... I definately feel that everyone looses. I can sympathize with a company being unable to pay him a large salary, but as long as they arent expecting JMS to do much more than read some material and put his ok on it I cant say that I would be willing to give him too big of a cut of the profit. Thats just my random thoughts at one in the morning.
  • MessiahMessiah Failed Experiment
    This is not the first time JMs has been an arsehole so to speak. But hey, artists are tough to work with..
  • Yeah well if I had an original idea and somebody went out of their way to "add" to it. I don't think I'd like that considering I never got to finish the original story hmm?
  • [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by The Cabl3 Guy [/i]
    [B]Yeah well if I had an original idea and somebody went out of their way to "add" to it. I don't think I'd like that considering I never got to finish the original story hmm? [/B][/QUOTE]

    Well, he's had little problem with 3 different game companies paying significant fees to do just that since B5 season 2, so I fail to see the problem.

    Beyond that, anytime he wants to flesh out the B5 universe in his own novels, I'll be all over them. My understanding is that part of the problem of the book licenses is that he doesn't want to supply outlines anymore like the Technomage and Centauri trilogies, so the big publishers aren't willing to pay the license fees and take the risk of non-important/canon books. A trilogy on the events of Crusade would probably justify the risk, a book about some GROPOS during the EA civil war probably wouldn't.

    Matt
  • RhettRhett (Not even a monkey)
    Forgot to say welcome to the forums- the beers in the fridge and the nuts are all over the place... :D
  • [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ninjrk [/i]
    [B]Well, he's had little problem with 3 different game companies paying significant fees to do just that since B5 season 2, so I fail to see the problem.

    Matt [/B][/QUOTE]

    Three? I can think of only two prior to Mongoose, namely Chameleon Eclectic who did the rather mediocre Babylon Project RPG and AOG who did B5 Wars and Gropos.
  • [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Anla'Shok Douglas Nicol [/i]
    [B]Three? I can think of only two prior to Mongoose, namely Chameleon Eclectic who did the rather mediocre Babylon Project RPG and AOG who did B5 Wars and Gropos. [/B][/QUOTE]

    I was including Mongoose in the three, although I suppose that one could include the CCG company as well.

    Matt
  • Gah, I should have remembered the Precedence CCG as I have a stack of the cards. Though I can also think of yet another B5 game, but it's pretty obscure, the Component Game System that was played on a dynamic hexagonal map. There were plans to make Galactica and Stargate versions but they never came to anything.
  • HuntSmackerHuntSmacker Firstones Ambassador to Starcraftia
    Woah, an LTLFTP. Welcome from lurker status, take a seat in the lurker corner here.
  • David of MacDavid of Mac Elite Ranger Ca
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ninjrk [/i]
    [B]Long time lurker, first tim poster[/b], so why not start off on the right foot.[/QUOTE]
  • [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by HuntSmacker [/i]
    [B]Woah, an LTLFTP. Welcome from lurker status, take a seat in the lurker corner here. [/B][/QUOTE]

    Do I get a hat or something?

    Matt
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  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    I think that's a yes, but if i ask, it'll probably result in my death.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by wiseguy [/i]
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    :3hamster:
  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    ::noidea::
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