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Star Trek passes without a single thread?
A2597
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in Zocalo v2.0
So it's official, Trek on TV is dead for who knows how long, and it doesn't even get a single thread?
Well...guess there is just one thing to be done...
[b]LLORT![/b]:D
Well...guess there is just one thing to be done...
[b]LLORT![/b]:D
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shame to see it go. But yea, Berman and Braga...ugh
I agree, the best part of the finale was the last 30 some odd seconds. It was good, not B5 exploding good, but good nonetheless.
Just thinking...two Gene Roddenberry based shows finished in one night(Enterprise and Andromeda).
Rommie was hot. :D
And its not by choice that I dont watch TV, all we can get where I am is terrestrial TV; and its only occasionally that I get to watch anything on it as my flatmates hog it all the time.
DS9 was run by Galactica front man Ron Moore and the 4400 producer Ira Steven Behr, both of whom think Rick Berman is an idiot.
On the DS9 DVD commentary (thanks to netflix), Ira Behr tells us that when they brought up the idea to do the Dominion War they wanted it to be 3 years. Berman told them it wouldnt work and make it a 2 part episode. Ira made it 3 years anyway and we got probably the biggest and best event in Trek history.
The only problem I had with DS9 was the lack of crossover. The biggest war the Federation has been involved in and we never saw the Enterprise and her crew, and somehow Riker, Data and a few other potential captains stay on the Enterprise in their Commander roles when the Federation is losing ships and people right and left.
Enterprise sucked from about the 2nd episode, until last week Friday. The Xindi war was ill thought out, drug on and made no sense what-so-ever. The Xindi had about 40 oportunities in 22 episodes to blow the Enterprise straight to hell, and let it go. Archer got kidnapped about 7 times and beat up like a bitch doll around 20 times.
The whole temproal cold war and alien Nazis and time travel was the biggest most wasted use of television as an entertainment medium since UPN made Moesha.
I wont even touch on Voyagers issues, because it was somehow worse than Enterprise in my mind.
The one good thing I have to say about the finale? Data's "rain check" line cracked me up :D
[B]Rommie was hot. :D [/B][/QUOTE]
Michael Shanks is a lucky man...a very lucky man.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by SpiritOne [/i]
[B]
...the biggest most wasted use of television as an entertainment medium since UPN made Moesha.[/B][/QUOTE]
LOL
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by A2597 [/i]
[b]LLORT![/b]:D[/QUOTE]
AARDVARK!
Star Trek ends with the most ingeniouslly INCOMPETENT episode ever. Not only have they ruined a perfectly good ending with the holodeck format, but they have made the cast of Enterprise look like nothing more then holopuppets in the process. Pulling in the two most worthless crewmembers from TNG didn't help, nor did the fact that I was constantly chronologically challeneged to understand where the hell the seven years from the Bigot episode to the signing of the federation constitution went. Further, the surpreme ending that could have been, an excellent speech written by Archer, was ignored becuase of the lack of ability to write by the writer of the episode--how does one make a climax of the episode happen AFTER the episode ends and the credits begin?
These last three episodes showed the lack of imagination that has driven the entire series into the ground. Good riddence to the producers of Enterprise and I hope that someone competent is brought into the Star Trek production whenever Paramont resurects it, which we all know they will do even if it makes no sense to anyone else.
[B]Im sorry to see Andromeda go, it had babes..
Rommie was hot. :D [/B][/QUOTE]
Not only Rommie :)
The holodeck just ruined it......
If only in terms of continuity, this show pales in comparison to DS9, and with writing. Consider that TNG was never intended to be anything more than a serialized space opera. Episodic development occurs, but it is rarely to the point where it dramatically alters the nature of the show. On top of this, I don't believe Enterprise ever effectively did anything remotely close to that. It would step up to the plate, swing, then throw the bat right into the pitcher's knee. Quite a tragic experience.
In comparison Enterprise, with story arc and ordered, multi-episode stories, could not develop characters.
Now how is that possible? It should be harder, far harder, to develop characters under the TNG/TOS methodology then under the Enterprise methodology.
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Oh yeah, and while Scott Bakula is a good actor, I think he was a poor cast for the captain's role. He isn't forceful enough in a position of command - it just didn't come naturally to him and you could always see him straining to fit the role he was given. This certainly didn't help the story line. Even in the alternate universe story it could clearly be seen, where everyone was agressive, he had a hard time acting that and occasionally slipped back into his more natural role we saw as his normal universe captain. Now that could be bad writing, but I think it goes beyond the writing in this case.