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Battleship Yamato
The Cabl3 Guy
Elite Ranger
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I have had a long time obsession with this ship its simply the most beautiful of all the BBs. I know they have done some observation on her in 85 & 99. What I want to know is how much it would cost to raise her...everything & make her sea worthy again. (SERIOUSLY) Not asking anyone do the research for me just point me in the right direction.[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_battleship_Yamato[/url]
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Edit: It would cost alot to raise and refit the ship, It would be cheeper to build a new one..
Cheaper yes & no ...One advantage is the steel itself is now radation free from being protected by mud. It gives a starting point to but then again it may not work properly if you have to add certain sections that are completely lost. I doubt that though if you have a good team at it specifically the guys at Norfolk. You'll need the blueprints either way...But for me its the historical value your picking an artifact right out of history. Though the ship itself had little effect on the war. It was still a monument to Japanese engineering & a strong symbol of national pride.
I wonder though would the Japanese bitch about it? It is the tomb of over 2500 Japanese they good see it as some sort of violation of they're spirits.
@Lennier [url]http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-fornv/japan/japsh-xz/yamato.htm[/url] says shes about in 1000 ft of water.
Jake
Also weight is very big, only carriers are heavier than she.
(well of course these giant oil tankers are many times heavier)
You would have to work entirely with subs, it would one hell of an ordeal. Still, was a beutifull ship.
[B]Im never considered putting it together than & there I don't think thats really feasible E.T. The Individual pieces can't float. The best way to do it would be to attempt to load it on a ship by crane if thats even possible? I would have to ask someone whos experienced in naval salvaging. [/B][/QUOTE]
I don't think we have anyone like that around here. Your best bet out of people here would probably be JohnD.
Personally, I think loading it onto a ship by crane would also be difficult. It would be very fragile by now.
It's got to be incredibly delicate at this point. Living underneath the salty sea without anything as much as an occasional sub encounter does not leave any exposed metal too structurally sound.
I do remember reading a bit about surfacing ships of this scale in Popular Science, though. One system involved burrowing tethers under the ship itself. Once enough are achieved, balloon ballasts are inflated until positive buoyancy can be achieved.
Another system was similar, but ever so slightly different. Instead of just stopping at tethers, an expanding, form-molding foam layer would be slipped under the ship, and would displace the dirt, rocks, mud, etc. The major benefits of this setup are not only in the foam's natural ability to float, but once hardened, I believe it was supposed to act as an incredibly strong, form-fitting base for the ship to be raised. Instead of lifting the ship and risking damage, you're basically lifting a platform which just happens to have a ship on it :D
she's in once piece, laying on even keel, and she's in... 17,000 feet of water! yes, that is 17,000 feet! and due to the pressures and firigit temperatures at that depth your typical corrosive reactions are not happening so she's still physicly sound!
[B]Yorktown...Midway right? [/B][/QUOTE]
Yep, rushed into battle before fully repaired from earlier damage and sunk during the battle.
why dont we raise the Arizona, shes only in 60 odd feet of water...
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build a replica at 1/10 scale, thats something you could drive with your average large inboard propulsion, you could hide a periscope or wheelhouse windows fairly easily
[B]talk about culturally insensitive...
why dont we raise the Arizona, shes only in 60 odd feet of water...
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I was thinking that too
Its a great ship but it just ain't Yamato.
...and if the Arizona is too hard, then the Yamato is impossible
both of them should remain armoured caskets for the fallen...
theres something rather ghoulish about trying to raise the Arizona... that's like digging up the bones at Arlington and putting them on display....
The Japanese might get offended if thats the case then I wouldn't do it. Id rather earn their respect than a piece of their history.
The Arizona was struck many times by bombs until finally one pierced the armor somewhere near the forward magazine. This particular hit caused the magazine to explode which sank the ship in minutes. Over 1,000 sailors died on the Arizona which is about half of the overall casualties at Pearl Harbor.
Today, The Arizona is now a national park. There's a white superstructure that is built directly over the Arizona which serves as the memorial. One of the interesting facts about the USS Arizona is that the fuel tanks were not emptied out. For over 50 years the tanks have leaked out droplets of fuel. This can be seen from the memorial.
She was badly damaged during the battle of midway and was evacuated except for a small crew, and then taken under tow, she was torpedoed by a japanese sub on the night of 6-7 of june and then she started listing fairly badly. and on the 7th she sank.
Since her crew, wounded and dead were evacuated, she's not exactly a tomb.
In random trivia the sub who sank her was I-168 originaly (I-68) who herself was sunk a year later, most likely in combat with the USS Scamp an american submarine, which, herself was sunk under unknown circomstances about 18 months after that!
I think your best bet is this website,
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_battleship_Yamato[/url] , which has
some
good references listed on the battleship YAMATO. We're not aware of
any
Japanese memoirs available within US repositories. Perhaps one of the
reference books listed on that site will point you in that direction.
We're not aware of any organization contemplating raising the sunken
YAMATO, so we cannot advise you on whom to contact about salvage
questions.
Todd Creekman
Executive Director, Naval Historical Foundation
Straight from the US Navy.
[url]http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/ships/battleships/arizona/bb39-ariz.html[/url]
maxdamage
but shes radioactive no?