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back to school...

So, first day of classes was today for me...

who else is starting up again? :cool:
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  • ShadowDancerShadowDancer When I say, "Why aye, gadgie," in my heart I say, "Och aye, laddie." London, UK
    i dont start again till about the 18th of september, but i have to go down for the 8th cos ive got a geology field trip to one of the scottish islands.

    im a bit annoyed about the timing of the field trip tho, cos it overlaps with some of freshers week. not that im a fresher any more of course, but it does mean that all the little newbies look up to you as one who knows where all the best haunts are;)
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ShadowDancer [/i]
    [B]i dont start again till about the 18th of september, but i have to go down for the 8th cos ive got a geology field trip to one of the scottish islands. [/B][/QUOTE]

    Oooh! :D Any Basaltic beaches? Or was that Ireland?

    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ShadowDancer [/i]
    [B]im a bit annoyed about the timing of the field trip tho, cos it overlaps with some of freshers week. not that im a fresher any more of course, but it does mean that all the little newbies look up to you as one who knows where all the best haunts are;) [/B][/QUOTE]

    Better to be looked up to IMHO... ;)
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    I never stopped. :)
  • ShadowDancerShadowDancer When I say, "Why aye, gadgie," in my heart I say, "Och aye, laddie." London, UK
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JackN [/i]
    [B]Oooh! :D Any Basaltic beaches? Or was that Ireland?



    Better to be looked up to IMHO... ;) [/B][/QUOTE]

    yeah, we're going to some of them. going to look as some Lewisian gneisses, as well the moine thrust i think.

    as for being looked up to, it also helps that my flat is just across from the first stop of any pub crawls that come out of the main halls (and just across from said halls):D

    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Biggles [/i]
    [B]I never stopped. :) [/B][/QUOTE]

    well i suppose when your stuck in that nutrient tank all the time youve nothing better to do than work :D ;)
  • FreejackFreejack Jake the Not-so-Wise
    After 5 years out, I start out for my MBA next Saturday...

    Jake
  • School? What's that? :)
  • ShadowDancerShadowDancer When I say, "Why aye, gadgie," in my heart I say, "Och aye, laddie." London, UK
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Freejack [/i]
    [B]After 5 years out, I start out for my MBA next Saturday...

    Jake [/B][/QUOTE]

    what area is your masters in?
  • SquidgySquidgy Earthforce Officer
    I go back to art school hell on the 28th! It actually starts on the 7th, but I need time to say goodbye to my normal life and ease back into a world dominated by caffeine and exhaustion. Anybody here painted for 36 hours straight? I have!

    ...and I still got a C- on it. :D
  • [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Squidgy [/i]
    [B]I go back to art school hell on the 28th! It actually starts on the 7th, but I need time to say goodbye to my normal life and ease back into a world dominated by caffeine and exhaustion. Anybody here painted for 36 hours straight? I have!

    ...and I still got a C- on it. :D [/B][/QUOTE]

    I can relate...ohhh BAY can I relate.

    First graphic arts teacher: Well...I accidentally made it known that I knew more then her about the subject. (By correcting an ass backward statement of hers) and well..she had it in for me the rest of the semester. Everyone else was POSITIVE I was a high A, and I finished with a B. Only because she HAD to give me credit for group assignments, or tell three other students that the project that was fairly obviously better, was the worst in the room... :rolleyes:
    I Got my revenge with the teacher evaluation form. and volenteered to deliver it. :cool:

    then a crazy math teacher, oh, and my buisness teacher, whom I STILL can't figure out his grading method. If you did good, you failed, because you contributed to much. :rolleyes:
    I dropped that one, as my grade was an F. Because I contributed to much. :eek:

    lots and lots of other stories. :)

    But my best was this:

    Teacher handed out final exam for 20 minutes the last class meeting for the class before the exam. So we could review, make certain we knew everything.

    Copies were snuck out. (Idiots)

    Teacher caught four people red handed copying it in the library.

    teacher made new final exam, an essay form one.

    three of the idiots he caught, went to complain to the dean that the test was too hard. :eek: (It was the easiest final I have EVERY taken. 10 minutes for about 50 essay questions, and I aced it)

    Said students were told by the dean it was in their best interest to attempt the final (Yes, that means they handed in BLANK FINALS).

    I never learned if he let them take the test after that stunt....I should ask....:D
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by A2597 [/i]
    [B]10 minutes for about 50 essay questions[/B][/QUOTE]

    You wrote 50 essays in 10 minutes?
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ShadowDancer [/i]
    [B]what area is your masters in? [/B][/QUOTE]

    Isn't an MBA a Masters in Business Administration?
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    So... he's going to be a suit?
    Freejack, you are hereby evicted from Firstones.com.
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by A2597 [/i]
    [B]Well...I accidentally made it known that I knew more then her about the subject. (By correcting an ass backward statement of hers) and well..she had it in for me the rest of the semester.... :rolleyes:
    I Got my revenge with the teacher evaluation form. and volenteered to deliver it. :cool: [/B][/QUOTE]

    Hmmm... Doncha kind of think you asked for that? I might have sent you to the front of the class to teach for the day, the way you've put it in your message...

    I don't mind students correcting me. It shows they ARE learning or interested at the very least. Sometimes I purposely do it to catch someone at sluffing off...

    What I do mind is how I am corrected. There is a civil and respectful way, and then theres just plain arrogance. It's not easy being a Teacher / Instructor / Professor in this day and age...

    I consider it success when a student ends up knowing more than me on a subject. Doesn't hurt me one bit, no pride or ego to bruise, just pride in a successful student.

    You also have to realize that not everyone is at the same level as you, and you are not the only student in the class. In order to get credit for the class, you have to go through the motions and get the chair time. So don't make it unbearable for everyone else...

    ;)
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    I have to agree with Jack. The way you put it in your post makes you sound like an arrogant know-it-all, A2597. :) I've had to put up with my fair share of annoying fellow students who think they know more than the lecturer (and are quite often proven wrong), and it doesn't aid in the lecturer's job or our learning.
  • I'm a high school Senior on the 31st... :(
  • I'm downright friendly to any teacher until they proove that they do not warrent such behavior.

    If I sound like I came of like an arragant SOB, it's because remembering that class just raised my bloodpressure.

    I'm trying to remember exactly what she said...

    Oh yes.

    It was along the lines of standard computer colormixing. RGB, and CYMK.

    She said RGB is primarily used for internet graphics, and CYMK is used for print media, because what you see on your monitor, is exactly what you will see in the printed version.

    I'm sorry, but I'm not about to let something that stupid slide, and I was polite, and phrased my correction in the form of a question.
    (eg: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that the printed media will always differ from what is viewed on the monitor...(Can't remember how I worded it after that...).


    anyhoo, it torked her off something auful. I mean, I've been doing graphic arts as a side job for awhile, I started out just doing the assignments, as they are hung on the wall for discussion, and I bloody HATE being a showoff. Most of the other students could barely operate the PC, so I didn't want to show them up. I can't stand someone that does that. After getting a low C on the first couple assignments, I bumped it up a notch. And another, and another. Halfway through the semester a kid showed up just minutes before the teacher, relized there was an assignment due, sketched out a VERY rough project in a couple minutes, and got a 100%. My project, which I spent a few days on, had multiple design sketeches, and media showing the step by step design project to a professional finished work, got a C-.

    So, I think I have a right to be mad at this teacher. Maybe I shouldn't have corrected her on that whole CYMK buisness, but somehow, I think she was just a royal bitch.

    I learned later that her degree was in ceramics anyway...which would explain why she wouldn't know a great deal on the subject, but in which case, sticking to your guns and taking it out on a student isn't the best idea IMHO.



    As for how I behave in class, in short, I'm the model student. I'm there because I want to learn, so, I've never missed a day, I take notes, I turn in every assignment, try to involve myself in the class by asking questions, answering questions, offering comments, I talk to the teacher both in and out of the classroom, help other students, etc. (In other words, I'm what some would call a teachers pet...but I don't hold to such arguments. :D )

    Most teachers on campus know me by name, even if I haven't had a class with them. Most teachers I've had I'm on friendly terms with, shoot, I've even had them start conversations with me a full year after taking their class. I count them as friends.

    There are three teachers I don't like. of those, only this graphic arts teacher made it fairly well known that she doesn't like me. The others, seem indifferent.
  • [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Biggles [/i]
    [B]You wrote 50 essays in 10 minutes? [/B][/QUOTE]

    actually, I guess that was short answer, with two essay questions (Or was it three...hmmm)

    anyhoo, easy as pi.
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by A2597 [/i]
    [B]I'm downright friendly to any teacher until they proove that they do not warrent such behavior.

    If I sound like I came of like an arragant SOB, it's because remembering that class just raised my bloodpressure.
    [/B][/QUOTE]

    Well once again, it's like Biggles said. It's the way you worded your post that caught my eye...

    ;)

    I am not so naive that I don't realize that there are teachers in place who have no business teaching what they are either... :D

    Sometimes, though it's not the teachers fault that they have been assigned a class to teach that at the very best, is at the margins of their experience. You know how administrations can be... and the teacher has to eat just like everyone else.

    I like to start my classes out stating up front that I don't know everything, and that I will try and find an answer for those questions I don't. So far I have only been tasked with classes that I know what the hell I'm talking about! :p
  • shadow boxershadow boxer The Finger Painter & Master Ranter
    Hah... ceramics... atleast thats closer than hair dressing..... in the class year that followed mine, the head lecturer for the graphic arts department came from hair dressing. Admin sucks. It always does. Atleast in this case the guy was so high up the food chain he couldnt screw the ciriculum, he just walked around campus trying to look like he had the faintest clue.

    Ahash... you need to brush up on your interpersonals. (yeah ok pot/kettle)

    You didn't exactly have much empathy for your poor freakin teacher did you. If shes so obviously struggling, you turning on her and stabbing her in the chest isnt exactly going to help. You struck her at the worse possible moment. That's the best time to establish a grudge you'll have a hard time ever getting rid of.

    From one know it all to another... pull your head in boof head.

    If you'd taken the time to learn about her background and what shes up against and you offered to help, you could have ended up with extra credit, and a teacher who may just take bullets for you, put you up for recognition etc...

    ... pick your fights better boy or you'll go nowhere fast.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by A2597 [/i]
    [B]It was along the lines of standard computer colormixing. RGB, and CYMK.

    She said RGB is primarily used for internet graphics, and CYMK is used for print media, because what you see on your monitor, is exactly what you will see in the printed version.

    I'm sorry, but I'm not about to let something that stupid slide, and I was polite, and phrased my correction in the form of a question.
    (eg: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that the printed media will always differ from what is viewed on the monitor...(Can't remember how I worded it after that...).[/B][/QUOTE]

    As I recall, Photoshop uses colour profiles precisely so that what you see on your monitor [b]is[/b] what you see when you print.
  • Captain,SimmondsCaptain,Simmonds Trainee trainee
    I go back in about 2 weeks on Sept. 7th...

    Back to the shit hole(The school isnt bad, most of the other students are complete assholes) All though I will be spending less time at the school becuase I have a 2 peroid Co-op.
  • [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Biggles [/i]
    [B]As I recall, Photoshop uses colour profiles precisely so that what you see on your monitor [b]is[/b] what you see when you print. [/B][/QUOTE]

    But there is no way to calculate the differences in paper, printers, etc.
    And even then, it doesn't make a difference if you use CYMK or RGB. If you DID calibrate your PC so WYSIWYG, CYMK makes no difference at all.

    And Jack, I learned she had a Ceramics degree the day of the final exam, still doesn't make up for a semester's worth of being a pain because I corrected her once. (At least not in my book). She could have talked after class to me if she wished to continue the matter, rather then slamming me down in class for asking a question. I asked about extra credit as well, she was one of those "under no circumstances what so ever" types of people.
    Oh well, in the past now.

    (And just a further note, I was told to avoid this teacher by others, but well, she's the only graphic arts teacher on campus. And since I needed the class....)
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by A2597 [/i]
    [B]But there is no way to calculate the differences in paper, printers, etc.
    And even then, it doesn't make a difference if you use CYMK or RGB. If you DID calibrate your PC so WYSIWYG, CYMK makes no difference at all.[/B][/QUOTE]

    It does when you consider that printers (professional ones and printing presses, not the little deskjet on your desk) use CMYK (at least, they did when I did this stuff in school years ago). Also, you [b]can[/b] calibrate your monitor to the paper when you know what system will be used to print your work (printer, paper tone, ink, etc).
  • The Cabl3 GuyThe Cabl3 Guy Elite Ranger
    Well I have the option of staying here in London & going to University or heading back home to NY & go to college there. Not sure what I should do & what the quality of education is out here. I have read though that it is extremely easy to pass. (96% of the country passed this year) So that can be a good thing & a bad thing, good because It means its gonna be a cakewalk bad because maybe I really won't learn anything. What do you UKers think should I stick it or head back?
  • Data CrystalData Crystal Pencil Artist
    Started my second round of second-phase education. :p I've finished high school around 3 years ago, now went for the professional education. Have to deal with a crowd more or less 6 years younger than myself on average (:D) but should have papers in logistics 3 years from now.

    Doing all right.
  • StrikerStriker Provided with distinction
    Meh...I started back today as well. Fun stuff. :)
  • ShadowDancerShadowDancer When I say, "Why aye, gadgie," in my heart I say, "Och aye, laddie." London, UK
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by The Cabl3 Guy [/i]
    [B]Well I have the option of staying here in London & going to University or heading back home to NY & go to college there. Not sure what I should do & what the quality of education is out here. I have read though that it is extremely easy to pass. (96% of the country passed this year) So that can be a good thing & a bad thing, good because It means its gonna be a cakewalk bad because maybe I really won't learn anything. What do you UKers think should I stick it or head back? [/B][/QUOTE]

    well i dunno about anyone else from the uk here, but first chance i get (3rd year) and im gonna try and get out of this country for a year, hopefully to canada:)

    standards are definitely going down here. theres just too much political influence to make the results look good for the politicians. i mean, when people can get a credit pass in their standard grades (the equivalent of the the old O-levels/new GCSE's) for just getting around 46% you know something is wrong there!:rolleyes:
  • FreejackFreejack Jake the Not-so-Wise
    [quote]what area is your masters in?[/quote]

    Masters of Business Administration...

    [quote]Isn't an MBA a Masters in Business Administration?[/quote]

    Yuppers

    [quote] So... he's going to be a suit?
    Freejack, you are hereby evicted from Firstones.com. [/quote]

    Just for the record, I only own 1 suit. Having been here for more than 4 years, you'd have to drag me out kicking and screaming...

    Jake
  • C_MonC_Mon A Genuine Sucker
    This is the 2nd week in school for me and we're puting up servers. :)
  • The Cabl3 GuyThe Cabl3 Guy Elite Ranger
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ShadowDancer [/i]
    [B]well i dunno about anyone else from the uk here, but first chance i get (3rd year) and im gonna try and get out of this country for a year, hopefully to canada:)

    standards are definitely going down here. theres just too much political influence to make the results look good for the politicians. i mean, when people can get a credit pass in their standard grades (the equivalent of the the old O-levels/new GCSE's) for just getting around 46% you know something is wrong there!:rolleyes: [/B][/QUOTE] Hmm I'll keep that in mind. There is another insentive for me staying here now, JMS!
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