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[B]I think it's a pretty big thing to remember. If it wasn't for the tenacity of the finns during the war, you'd all be speaking russian right now. [/B][/QUOTE]
But since you would've been raised in a Russian society and brainwashed into believing their beliefs, you wouldn't care, would you? :)
One week of happy camping life and leading an armoured personnel carrier and communication center in the snowy forests of Niinisalo...
[B]But since you would've been raised in a Russian society and brainwashed into believing their beliefs, you wouldn't care, would you? :) [/B][/QUOTE]
Actually, I wasn't born in Finland, so most likely I wouldn't be one a' them damn reds! :D
[B]Actually, I wasn't born in Finland, so most likely I wouldn't be one a' them damn reds! :D [/B][/QUOTE] If Russia had conquered Finland, most likely none of us would be here, even the B5 series might not exist. Your parents would never have met each other and so on...
Now don't get me wrong. I DON'T say that winter war wasn't that big of a deal cause the fact is that it's was basicly a miracle. I'm just saying that it's ANNOYING (my opinion!) when EVERY independent day there are those very same things about that war. Can't we just get over it.
If there is that same shit in military then I'll skip it
NOTE: By saying that I might be skipping the military I'm just annoying those who hate "sivareita"
[B]Actually, I wasn't born in Finland, so most likely I wouldn't be one a' them damn reds! :D [/B][/QUOTE]
Well, if the Reds were still around, they [i]wouldn't[/i] still be around, because someone would've forgotten about MAD by now... :)
[B]Do I get flamed if I say that I don't even care if we were speaking russia now?And I think it's more worthy to remember what allied forces did during the WW 2 than some winter war
Now don't get me wrong. I DON'T say that winter war wasn't that big of a deal cause the fact is that it's was basicly a miracle. I'm just saying that it's ANNOYING (my opinion!) when EVERY independent day there are those very same things about that war. Can't we just get over it.
If there is that same shit in military then I'll skip it
NOTE: By saying that I might be skipping the military I'm just annoying those who hate "sivareita" [/B][/QUOTE]
Not just the language. Look at the state of affairs in Russia and compare them to Finland. Then you might see what Finland might be like today if things had gone the other way. Not flaming you, of course you have the right to your own opinion. But I doubt you'd want to live under Russian rule rather than in the Finland you know today.
[B]Not just the language. Look at the state of affairs in Russia and compare them to Finland. Then you might see what Finland might be like today if things had gone the other way. Not flaming you, of course you have the right to your own opinion. But I doubt you'd want to live under Russian rule rather than in the Finland you know today. [/B][/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure that in Russia there are people who are quite happy to their lives. And I'm not meaning the rich people. But honestly, I can't say for sure would I be happier if I would live under those "rules". Probable yes cause I don't need a high quality social services and the other "cool" things we have in Finland. I like to live poorly. The only "luxury" I have is a computer.
If I remember Correctly, The "Reds" Did'nt take over finland, it was the old imperial russian goverment.
Yes even us fat, lazy Americans fall under that law of nature... not enough of us truely realize it as we once did...
:(
English Rebelion lasted one Night.
French Rebelion lasted 6 days.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Captain,Simmonds [/i]
[B]Nothing like public health care:)....
If I remember Correctly, The "Reds" Did'nt take over finland, it was the old imperial russian goverment. [/B][/QUOTE]
Who what when?! Oh when we trusted the Swedes to take care of our defence. :D
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Aurora SF [/i]
Do I get flamed if I say that I don't even care if we were speaking russia now?
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Well we wouldn't be speaking russian as Stalin planned to do the same to us as he did to the Chechens.
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ANNOYING (my opinion!) when EVERY independent day there are those very same things about that war. Can't we just get over it.[/quote]
It's just one day. Imagine if we would have this kind of things every date when the winter war started, when it ended, when the continuation war started, when it ended and when the civil war ended. :D
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If there is that same shit in military then I'll skip it
NOTE: By saying that I might be skipping the military I'm just annoying those who hate "sivareita"[/QUOTE]
Freaking pot smoking tree hugger ;) :D :shadow1:
[B]Those that don't remember their struggle for independance and the price it required... are doomed to repeat it...[/B][/QUOTE]
That was exactly in my mind.
Generalized form is:
Those who don't remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
It's like one aviation joke:
Learn from mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to make all of them yourself.
I've read newspapers and watched TV news for about thirteen years and unfortunately it looks like fery few people remember this rule.:(
the winter war came during which larger war WW2 or WW1 and when you pushed them out they came back and you lost then or what.
i love history so im all interested in it! :D
[B]Freaking pot smoking tree hugger ;) :D :shadow1: [/B][/QUOTE]
MMMMM I LOVE TREES....MMMMM I LOVE MY HASH PIPE:D :D
[B]so finns explain it to me please.
the winter war came during which larger war WW2 or WW1 and when you pushed them out they came back and you lost then or what.[/B][/QUOTE]
If you would have used google, first link would have been this:
[url]http://www.winterwar.com/[/url]
[url]http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War[/url]
[url]http://www.kaiku.com/winterwar.html[/url]
[B]so finns explain it to me please.
the winter war came during which larger war WW2 or WW1 and when you pushed them out they came back and you lost then or what.
i love history so im all interested in it! :D [/B][/QUOTE]
Even though E.T posted some links here's a short summary of the wars Finland has fought when independent:
1918: Civil War (whites vs reds + some russian troops)
1939-1940: Winter War (vs Soviets)
1941-1944: Continuation War (vs Soviets)
1944-1945: Lapland War (vs Germans)
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Aurora SF [/i]
[B]MMMMM I LOVE TREES....MMMMM I LOVE MY HASH PIPE:D :D [/B][/QUOTE]
remember, puff puff pass :D
[B]remember, puff puff pass :D [/B][/QUOTE]
?! Are you giving advices to old junky?!;)