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Decent web page editing software?

FreejackFreejack Jake the Not-so-Wise
in Zocalo v2.0
OK here's the situation, at work, I am responsable for the maintenence of a for a small section of our corporate website. Mainly writing new articles from week to week and posting reports on the sites so the divisions have access to them.

Anyway having a very minimal knowledge of html, I am forced to use FrontPage, since the only other web site development software that the company uses a much more complicated software, I believe is called visual webdav.

At this point I am about ready to kill FrontPage. Its about as useful as teets on a boar hog....

Unfortuately since maintenence of the site is a minor responseblity amoung many others, I do not have the time to sit and learn a major software or html. Does anyone have any recommendations as to a web page editor that is reasonably functional without a huge learning curve?

Thanks
Jake
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  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Notepad.
  • A2597A2597 Fanboy
    drat biggles, that was what I was going to say....

    oh well..
    try HTML Kit, great program for text editing. (Includes preview window!)
  • Aurora SFAurora SF Ranger
    Textpad
  • LogicSequenceLogicSequence Elite Ranger
    i actually like frontpage....
  • KeyanKeyan Ranger
    I also like frontpage well enough, for it's cost/features it works very well. It's no more complicated than Word or Excel to use, although it does have a couple of minor quirks.

    Dreamweaver is like the holy grail of web editors, it's also around $500 i think for a single license.
  • C_MonC_Mon A Genuine Sucker
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by A2597 [/i]
    [B]drat biggles, that was what I was going to say....

    oh well..
    try HTML Kit, great program for text editing. (Includes preview window!) [/B][/QUOTE]
    You're not the only one who was going to say the same thing as Biggles....allthough Dreamweaver is the best!
  • the_exilethe_exile Kupo!
    WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get) editors are, as a general rule, crap. They insert lines of code that they think will help, and usually end up just ruining your work. They don't always show what you're making accurately, and I say again, they MANGLE your code. FrontPage is decent, at least, so I'd suggest you use it until you learn HTML. The best site I've ever found for the basics (they have more advanced stuff, too), is [url]http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/teachingtool/index.html[/url]

    (Halt the presses! Exile has an informed opinion!)
  • shadow boxershadow boxer The Finger Painter & Master Ranter
    what a shame hes a code monkey and it shows ! Did Freejack not say he has limited knowledge of html ?

    Wysiwyg's are ok, Dreamweaver being the best of them. I've never had to weed a Dreamweaver built page. You only ever seem to get into trouble when you add too much java or dhtml 'doodads and gizmos'. KISS principile applies.
  • the_exilethe_exile Kupo!
    Yeah, Dreamweaver is a beaut. I had a PERFECTLY *cough* legal *cough* version on my old PC, but I forgot to transfer it to my new rig, because it never got used. As good as it is, I still prefer good ol' notepad.

    And yeah, I'm a code monkey... make webpages on stuff for fun, though I'm currently limited to HTML and CSS. Sometime when I find time, I'll get into some XML and DHTML... Java and Flash come this year in Progging class at school. My goal is to master them before we learn them. :D

    [Edit]Oh, and that Webmonkey site is excellent. A year ago, I would have considered myself as clueless as Freejack in the area of HTML; I'm a regular geek now. Worked wonders... :)
  • bobobobo (A monkey)
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by the_exile [/i]
    [B]
    And yeah, I'm a code monkey...

    [Edit]Oh, and that Webmonkey site is excellent. [/B][/QUOTE]

    My my, there are a lot of monkeys around here! ;)
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    For those times when sheer speed and quantity are necessary... I will use Dreamweaver, it [b][i]IS[/i][/b] the best WYSIWYG editor!

    But I mostly use [url=http://www.code-genie.com/cgenie.html]Code Genie 3[/url] for my HTML work.

    and yes... I'm also another Code Sapien...

    :p
  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Biggles [/i]
    [B]Notepad. [/B][/QUOTE]

    A text editor...but not notepad. Notepad has a character limit.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    The win2k and winxp ones don't. :)

    One of the great things about HTML is that it takes about an hour to learn.
  • FreejackFreejack Jake the Not-so-Wise
    Thanks for the suggestions, I'll have one of the IT people check and see if we have a Deamweaver license floating around somewhere...

    As far as coding the site directly, I'd love to be able to do that, but since this website is only about 10% of my responsibilities I just don't have the time or the mental resources to learn it at the moment.

    The thing that drives me nuts about frontpage is the text editing, It just makes no sense, and seems to be inconsistent at best.

    Jake
  • wiseguywiseguy Playa
    its either dreamweaver or [URL=http://crimsoneditor.com/]Crimson Editor[/URL] (thanks to my brother for showing that to me sometime ago) :)
  • C_MonC_Mon A Genuine Sucker
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Biggles [/i]
    [B]The win2k and winxp ones don't. :)

    One of the great things about HTML is that it takes about an hour to learn. [/B][/QUOTE]
    Yeah! To learn HTML doesn't tkae that long, but you usually have to learn javascript and other things to make a deacent looking webpage.
  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    far from it.

    [url]http://www.rit.edu/~aas7554/409/[/url]

    It may not be great looking, but I think it's good enough, and it's simply a bit of CSS with the proper arrangement and color scheme.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Keyan [/i]
    [B]I also like frontpage well enough, for it's cost/features it works very well. It's no more complicated than Word or Excel to use, although it does have a couple of minor quirks.[/B][/QUOTE]

    Features like the way it creates hugely bloated HTML code?
  • the_exilethe_exile Kupo!
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Biggles [/i]
    [B]Features like the way it creates hugely bloated HTML code? [/B][/QUOTE]

    I warned you! But did you listen to me? Oh, no, you knew
    it all, didn't you? Oh, it's just a harmless little bunny--errr, I mean... WYSIWYG!

    The problem with HTML, like I've said, is that JUST HTML limits you to some pretty basic webpages. Learning CSS, which takes about another hour on Webmonkey, will greatly improve your ability, but for a large site or a very complicated one, you need some more advanced stuff. PHP, Perl, XML, DHTML, C++, QBASIC, I'm just naming random languages now, and Unreal Tournament 2K3's Karma Physics Engine. Or something.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Yes, but when you're just using HTML in frontpage you get far more than is actually needed.
  • the_exilethe_exile Kupo!
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Biggles [/i]
    [B]Yes, but when you're just using HTML in frontpage you get far more than is actually needed. [/B][/QUOTE]

    I don't know why I quoted you, I kinda quoted Monty Python and then went of on my own rant. Ignore me. :D
  • Roi DantonRoi Danton Moderator
    [url=http://www.textpad.com]Textpad[/url]
  • the_exilethe_exile Kupo!
    Wordpad. :)
  • shadow boxershadow boxer The Finger Painter & Master Ranter
    Helipad

    :D:D:D
  • KonradKonrad Ranger
    Well - For a freeware WYSIWYG I [b]really[/b] like 'Trellian WebPage.'

    1] it's free.
    2] it doesn't throw in abunch of it's own meta code.
    3] you can jump between WYSIGWG and the HTML real easy.
    4] it's crisp and clean, not a big program, and has a bunch of features.
    6] did I mention it's free?
  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    [URL=http://www.lancs.ac.uk/people/cpaap/pfe/]PFE[/URL]

    It might be old...but its quite good :)
  • A2597A2597 Fanboy
    [url]www.angstendesign.com[/url]

    HTML + a little CSS

    [url]www.b5-blender.com[/url]

    HTML + a fair amount of CSS....

    [url]www.b5-blender.com/index.php[/url]

    HTML, CSS, and PHP...muahaha!!!
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    [url=http://www.code-genie.com/cgenie.html]Code Genie[/url] kicks @$$...

    ;)
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    PFE is great for writing assembly code in.
  • the_exilethe_exile Kupo!
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by shadow boxer [/i]
    [B]Helipad

    :D:D:D [/B][/QUOTE]

    Shag Pad. :D :D
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