[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JackN [/i]
[B]Yeah, TV and film are a mass production fast food kind of environment.
I think we all like the initial premise of each of the SciFi universes that come into being, but then the machine kicks in, and before long things just start to get overwhelmed with deadlines and/or deviation from the first love...
That and you will always have a difference between the author and the reader/viewer as to where the story should go. [/B][/QUOTE]
True, and while a show can hardly reach the depth of a good book, and regardless what some may say about BSG, what they did achieve so far is still among the best on TV now.
But please do keep in mind, this is just supposed to be entertainment. Nothing really worth getting mad about. Nobody forces anyone to watch anything. I mean I don't watch "Days of our Lives" either (or whatever that soap is called).
Why would anyone watch a soap they don't like and bitch and moan about it on a forum that it sucks? :D
Unless you like to bitch and moan for the sake of bitching and moaning, but that's a different pair of shoes. ;)
There is no argument I loathe more than the pure exercise in sophistry that is "it's just entertainment". I don't watch movies or tv shows or read books to escape or get through life. I do these things and am interested in art because I believe they can enrich it.
"It's just entertainment" is about the most insulting thing you can possibly say about something.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Arethusa [/i]
[B]No. No. [i]No[/i].
There is no argument I loathe more than the pure exercise in sophistry that is "it's just entertainment". I don't watch movies or tv shows or read books to escape or get through life. I do these things and am interested in art because I believe they can enrich it.
"It's just entertainment" is about the most insulting thing you can possibly say about something. [/B][/QUOTE]
Yes, yes, yes, it's all about money.
Wake up man, of all things, it's certainly not about scifi or art. There is nothing, but absolutely nothing new in this series. It's a repackaging of old concepts. Even the issues aren't new.
You are holding BSG to a higher standard that it doesn't deserve in and of itself.
I just wanted to let you all know, that [URL=http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4044267699364934797&sourceid=docidfeed&hl=en]we have absolutely nothing to worry about the samekind of future[/URL], that they have in Battlestar Galactica.
Arethusa why do you bother even watching the show if you think it sucks that much?
I still like BSG a hell of a lot. Its my favourite show followed by Hero's. It has flaws but I'm losing sleep over it or ranting over how RDM has "fucked me in the ass". BSG is still enjoyable and has a way to go yet before it reaches the depths that Threshold reached... started great but went downhill very very fast. I gave up on it.
Moore and Eick would have to really turn it into space communists every week before I throw Galactica on the fire.
And now I shall return to the one thing that is perfect in BSG and that is Bears music. Hope appropriate, Prelude to War has just started :D
Bears music is wonderful. We're fortunate to have another show with such great music. I thought it ended with B5! HALLOWED IS THE MUSIC. Anyway, this week is the mid-season finale! Aww... I have a feeling this one's not going to be the quality we're used to for a finale/hiatus. I hope it is - But theres been so many good finales already...
Looks like the finale is going to be a tense one. Hope it ends good, thankfully I'll be able to watch it before I ship off to the tech nomanlands that is my parents for christmas.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Stingray [/i]
[B]Yes, yes, yes, it's all about money.
Wake up man, of all things, it's certainly not about scifi or art. There is nothing, but absolutely nothing new in this series. It's a repackaging of old concepts. Even the issues aren't new.
You are holding BSG to a higher standard that it doesn't deserve in and of itself.
Wow, I can't believe this.... just wow. [/B][/QUOTE]
You're right about the absence of new concepts, but the execution has at times been quite original. Perhaps I am holding it to unexpectedly high standards, but there have been times, however fleeting, when it deserved it.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by HuntSmacker [/i]
[B]Bears music is wonderful. We're fortunate to have another show with such great music. I thought it ended with B5! HALLOWED IS THE MUSIC. Anyway, this week is the mid-season finale! Aww... I have a feeling this one's not going to be the quality we're used to for a finale/hiatus. I hope it is - But theres been so many good finales already... [/B][/QUOTE]
I am really ambivalent about the music. On one hand, it sounds great and it beats the shit out of anything Babylon 5 ever had. On the other, I've identified quite a number of tracks that Bear basically copied (inspiration is far too mild a term for some of these), and I'm not sure what I think about that.
And for anyone who doubts, I suggest you listen to The Battle off the Master and Commander Soundtrack.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Arethusa [/i]
[B]I am really ambivalent about the music. On one hand, it sounds great and it beats the shit out of anything Babylon 5 ever had. On the other, I've identified quite a number of tracks that Bear basically copied (inspiration is far too mild a term for some of these), and I'm not sure what I think about that. [/B][/QUOTE]
There are a lot of 'Black Hawk Down' sounding music too; 'Wander my Friends' and 'Adama and Roslin' are pretty close to blatant rips. I wasn't sure how I felt about that either, until I read the message from RDM in the liner notes for the Season 2 Score. It reads, in part:
"...the composer contributes a key and uniquely affecting component of a show...and is regularly burdened with unreasonable deadlines, squeezed by miserly budgets, flayed by deranged producers, and insulted by constantly [i]being asked to 'make it sound like the temp track.'[/i] (emphasis added)"
So, when you hear something VERY close to another composer's work, RDM has himself admitted that he is the one that often asks Bear to stay closer to the temp track (the placeholder pieces used for emotional effect until Bear takes a crack at it).
Interesting. That explains a lot. And, yeah, I guess Moore's got a distinct Hans Zimmer fetish. Not that that wasn't a great soundtrack, but asking Bear to basically all but plagiarize is just fucking weird.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WORF [/i]
[B]Likewise. I'm able to enjoy every episode, even the ones that are obviously not as good.
[/B][/QUOTE]
Well thats a start, someone admits not all the episodes are "as good" rather than Ron and crew can do no wrong, its always perfect ;)
[Quote][i]Originally posted by Stingray[/i]
[b]But please do keep in mind, this is just supposed to be entertainment. Nothing really worth getting mad about. Nobody forces anyone to watch anything. I mean I don't watch "Days of our Lives" either (or whatever that soap is called).
Why would anyone watch a soap they don't like and bitch and moan about it on a forum that it sucks?[/b][/quote]
Thats the thing, no one is getting mad. I don't sit and watch the show and then leave the TV pissed because I hated the episode. I enjoy the episodes, even the bad ones, just not as much, I turn off the TV and thats it. However I don't subscride to the theory that if I didn't like it its not worth discussing it because it might upset other viewers. You bet I'll be in discussions posting my honest opinion. I can't help it if others don't like it. I'm also with Arethusa on the its just TV so it can't be held up to higher standards nonsense. Like any good story telling its subject to criticism. If you however think BSG is the only good TV show out there then you are not watching anything else. There are other shows that are very close or even better in quality and are VERY well written like some of my other favorites Nip/Tuck and Rescue Me which is freakin great. While its arguable wether they are better or not, thats totally a matter of preference, they easily avoid a lot of the pitfalls BSG has taken.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Arethusa [/i]
[B]Interesting. That explains a lot. And, yeah, I guess Moore's got a distinct Hans Zimmer fetish. [/B][/QUOTE]
Funny you should mention that. I gave the saoundtracks to my sister and she asked if he was the composer for BSG.
Time for a new wager. RDM's latest interview indicates a very significant character will die next episode. Being thats its still not time for the top 7 death, my guess is possibly Tyroll but most likely Dualla. There's going to be more Anders/Apollo tension in regards to Kara so I think they'll just take Dee out of the way right now.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Stingray [/i]
[B]Yes, yes, yes, it's all about money.
Wake up man, of all things, it's certainly not about scifi or art. There is nothing, but absolutely nothing new in this series. It's a repackaging of old concepts. Even the issues aren't new.
[/B][/QUOTE]
Sure, its always about the money. That doesn't necessarily change things. Ron and crew are pretty blessed they have a show that gives thempretty much absolute creative control and freedom. A bad episode, or string of bad episodes is merely the result of flat out running out of good ideas and not network intervention. SciFi sure as hell isn't forcing them to have bad episodes like Black Market to boost ratings. Particularly when you consider the weak episodes have pretty consistantly been the worse raters.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Arethusa [/i]
[B]Interesting. That explains a lot. And, yeah, I guess Moore's got a distinct Hans Zimmer fetish. Not that that wasn't a great soundtrack, but asking Bear to basically all but plagiarize is just fucking weird. [/B][/QUOTE]
It's not just Zimmer. Another case of temp love occured in the teaser of "Pegasus," where Eick revealed that the 1980s-prom music that accompanied the introduction of the Pegasus was inspired by the band [url=http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewArtistSongs?sortMode=0&artistId=515449]"The Psychedelic Furs."[/url] Eick had to keep reiterating to the composer that, no, this is not a joke, and yes, we want it to sound like this.
Someone more enterprising than me can go through their repertoire and try to figure out exactly which track "Pegasus" was based upon.
I actually quite like that track and found it to be a really nice change in the way the episode felt.
But the BHD similarities constantly catch me. It's just too odd for me to skip over without stopping to think. However, I'm finding the Galactica score in general to be far more casually listenable than B5 ever was. I use S1 and S2 as background music in longer-length trips in the car and find it generally pleasant on the ears. B5 is overly dramatic for the purpose and just doesn't fit well.
Also, I've mentioned many times on IRC, but I'm still a bigger fan of the Miniseries Galactica cues than almost any other piece. the vocal accompanyment is beautiful, and the tribal drums with the deep, strong string/brass pairing are magnificent. It's too bad the composer wasn't kept for the run of the series, but Bear certainly has found a nearly perfect style of his own.
(For anyone with the miniseries soundtrack, the second thematic set in Track 1, almost all of 18, and some of 24)
RubberEagleWhat's a rubber eagle used for, anyway?
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Vorlons in my Head [/i]
[B]Funny you should mention that. I gave the saoundtracks to my sister and she asked if he was the composer for BSG. [/B][/QUOTE]
A friend of mine thought Zimmer did the soundtrack to Corpse Bride, because the piano theme and Davy Jones' theme from P2 sound alike.
Needless to say, i ripped his head off... (comparing a wonderfull Danny Elfman score to that hackjob of a earbleeder that the P2 soundtrack is... bah..)
I liked Gibbs' music from the pilot but I feel that Bear's work has more depth, more layers to his sound, more complex in a way (a bit like Franke in season 1, his sound is good but becomes more rich and developed during the following seasons).
I agree Sanfam, Bear's music is great for casual listening. My playlist at work is 1.2hrs long and is made up of the following tracks attached in the pic. Starting with the themes I feel helps set the mood and I followed it with the mellow/moody stuff building to the action with Scar and Prelude to War. I did wonder about which track to finish it off with and originally I chose Passacaglia but went for Bloodshed in the end. I feels its an excellent closure type track. Prelude to War is my favourite action track, simply kicks out pure drama and tension. On the other side Lords of Kobol and Something Dark is Coming are simply stunning. I love the way he manages to blend guitar and bass with his tracks. It can be very hard to make this work in a scfi/atmospheric type track but he does it superbly. And the whole ethic side that Gibbs started and Bear continued is just wonderful.
I find that when a tv show has such a rich soundtrack that one has a deeper connection to the show. With the last 4 Star Trek series, I found the music to be lifeless, sterile and lacking emotion. I'm not saying the musicians were bad but they just wrote the standard stuff and nothing else. Obviously the powers that be wanted a standard backing soundtrack. But thats a mistake imo. And with a great score I find I can remember bits from the episodes when I listen to the tracks.
Now I wonder if Frank will refresh his sound for TLT?? Can't wait to find out.
It is interesting you say that Vorlons... I was suprised to see the last episode got panned on TV.com in the ratings. Not surprised by the rating but by how honest people have been. With the way SG1 has gone these days I would have expected very poor ratings but its kept pulling 8.5 avg scores. Maybe there are more SG1 fanboys about who will love it regardless of how crap it is.
I managed to get the DTS version of the Pirates soundtrack and for me it started great but just kinda went downhill towards the end. I enjoyed it, I like Zimmer a lot but lately I've started noticing he's been raiding the parts bin that is the Zimmers Reuseable Samples Bucket a lot lot more than he's done in the past. I forget off hand which track it was but I could have sworn I heard some Crimson Tide in there somewhere.
Also, I've mentioned many times on IRC, but I'm still a bigger fan of the Miniseries Galactica cues than almost any other piece. the vocal accompanyment is beautiful, and the tribal drums with the deep, strong string/brass pairing are magnificent. It's too bad the composer wasn't kept for the run of the series, but Bear certainly has found a nearly perfect style of his own.
(For anyone with the miniseries soundtrack, the second thematic set in Track 1, almost all of 18, and some of 24) [/B][/QUOTE]
I agree, the miniseries is really what set the tone for everything and everytime I listen to it it really feels like THE trademark sound for the show. While I think Season 2 is the most easily listenable and overall best laid out of all of them so far it has veered into more traditional sound. My favorite still is season 1 and I've found myself missing a lot of the more "exotic" sounds for lack of a better word, that were commonly present in a lot of season 1.
RubberEagleWhat's a rubber eagle used for, anyway?
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Falcon1 [/i]
[B]I managed to get the DTS version of the Pirates soundtrack and for me it started great but just kinda went downhill towards the end. I enjoyed it, I like Zimmer a lot but lately I've started noticing he's been raiding the parts bin that is the Zimmers Reuseable Samples Bucket a lot lot more than he's done in the past. I forget off hand which track it was but I could have sworn I heard some Crimson Tide in there somewhere. [/B][/QUOTE]
That's exactly the problem i have with zimmer.
90% of the work of his that i know, sounds alike.
And even though the Pirates1 music was the typical zimmer-produced score, i think it has more heart than the one for P2.
I'd really like to know why they switched composers...
He does have his own style but he does get very samey. I haven't actually heard the P1 soundtrack. I have read a lot of reviews saying that its better than the 2nd film score. Didn't they switch composers at the last minute for P2?
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Stingray [/i]
[B]I can't wait for the next episode, soon we'll be talking about the weather on New Caprica.... :D [/B][/QUOTE]
We already have talked about the weather in NC. How it was nice and sunny in S3 instead of cold and overcast like S2 :D Next episode is on the algae planet. I hope its a good one. There's a lot hanging on this episode being its the last cliffhanger before the make or break time change.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Vorlons in my Head [/i]
[B]t+23min. So far very, VERY good....
Wait a minute! The Temple of Five? Something tells me I see where this is going. [/B][/QUOTE]
I really haven't seen anything so far that hasn't been predictable and mediocre. At least it's not outright disastrous.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Arethusa [/i]
[B]I really haven't seen anything so far that hasn't been predictable and mediocre. At least it's not outright disastrous. [/B][/QUOTE]
Doesn't matter! Its finally moving somewhere! No time wasted showing us if Hotdog might have been a male prostitute or every other pilots life story.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Vorlons in my Head [/i]
[B]Doesn't matter! Its finally moving somewhere! No time wasted showing us if Hotdog might have been a male prostitute or every other pilots life story. [/B][/QUOTE]
Heh. What was that you said about Battlestar apologists?
Yeah, it's movement. Unfortunately, that movement is schizophrenically sliding out of control in a puddle of a shit.
Some random thoughts. It struck me that Adama actually did not know about Hera being alive. Roslin went straight to Cottle. Other than those two and the dead Eureka girl no one knew.
Boomers back in Galactica clearly fully embracing her cylon self. Unfortunately we missed the transition. Would have much rather have seen some time spent on that development than in Kats silly life story. Ok I promise thats the last time I bring up Kat :D
Cool head Six is back, cry baby Caprica is getting stale. My favorite cylon brother Cavil is back, woohoo! I like his style :D
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[B]Yeah, TV and film are a mass production fast food kind of environment.
I think we all like the initial premise of each of the SciFi universes that come into being, but then the machine kicks in, and before long things just start to get overwhelmed with deadlines and/or deviation from the first love...
That and you will always have a difference between the author and the reader/viewer as to where the story should go. [/B][/QUOTE]
True, and while a show can hardly reach the depth of a good book, and regardless what some may say about BSG, what they did achieve so far is still among the best on TV now.
But please do keep in mind, this is just supposed to be entertainment. Nothing really worth getting mad about. Nobody forces anyone to watch anything. I mean I don't watch "Days of our Lives" either (or whatever that soap is called).
Why would anyone watch a soap they don't like and bitch and moan about it on a forum that it sucks? :D
Unless you like to bitch and moan for the sake of bitching and moaning, but that's a different pair of shoes. ;)
There is no argument I loathe more than the pure exercise in sophistry that is "it's just entertainment". I don't watch movies or tv shows or read books to escape or get through life. I do these things and am interested in art because I believe they can enrich it.
"It's just entertainment" is about the most insulting thing you can possibly say about something.
[B]No. No. [i]No[/i].
There is no argument I loathe more than the pure exercise in sophistry that is "it's just entertainment". I don't watch movies or tv shows or read books to escape or get through life. I do these things and am interested in art because I believe they can enrich it.
"It's just entertainment" is about the most insulting thing you can possibly say about something. [/B][/QUOTE]
Yes, yes, yes, it's all about money.
Wake up man, of all things, it's certainly not about scifi or art. There is nothing, but absolutely nothing new in this series. It's a repackaging of old concepts. Even the issues aren't new.
You are holding BSG to a higher standard that it doesn't deserve in and of itself.
Wow, I can't believe this.... just wow.
I still like BSG a hell of a lot. Its my favourite show followed by Hero's. It has flaws but I'm losing sleep over it or ranting over how RDM has "fucked me in the ass". BSG is still enjoyable and has a way to go yet before it reaches the depths that Threshold reached... started great but went downhill very very fast. I gave up on it.
Moore and Eick would have to really turn it into space communists every week before I throw Galactica on the fire.
And now I shall return to the one thing that is perfect in BSG and that is Bears music. Hope appropriate, Prelude to War has just started :D
Looks like the finale is going to be a tense one. Hope it ends good, thankfully I'll be able to watch it before I ship off to the tech nomanlands that is my parents for christmas.
[B]Yes, yes, yes, it's all about money.
Wake up man, of all things, it's certainly not about scifi or art. There is nothing, but absolutely nothing new in this series. It's a repackaging of old concepts. Even the issues aren't new.
You are holding BSG to a higher standard that it doesn't deserve in and of itself.
Wow, I can't believe this.... just wow. [/B][/QUOTE]
You're right about the absence of new concepts, but the execution has at times been quite original. Perhaps I am holding it to unexpectedly high standards, but there have been times, however fleeting, when it deserved it.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by HuntSmacker [/i]
[B]Bears music is wonderful. We're fortunate to have another show with such great music. I thought it ended with B5! HALLOWED IS THE MUSIC. Anyway, this week is the mid-season finale! Aww... I have a feeling this one's not going to be the quality we're used to for a finale/hiatus. I hope it is - But theres been so many good finales already... [/B][/QUOTE]
I am really ambivalent about the music. On one hand, it sounds great and it beats the shit out of anything Babylon 5 ever had. On the other, I've identified quite a number of tracks that Bear basically copied (inspiration is far too mild a term for some of these), and I'm not sure what I think about that.
And for anyone who doubts, I suggest you listen to The Battle off the Master and Commander Soundtrack.
[B]I am really ambivalent about the music. On one hand, it sounds great and it beats the shit out of anything Babylon 5 ever had. On the other, I've identified quite a number of tracks that Bear basically copied (inspiration is far too mild a term for some of these), and I'm not sure what I think about that. [/B][/QUOTE]
There are a lot of 'Black Hawk Down' sounding music too; 'Wander my Friends' and 'Adama and Roslin' are pretty close to blatant rips. I wasn't sure how I felt about that either, until I read the message from RDM in the liner notes for the Season 2 Score. It reads, in part:
"...the composer contributes a key and uniquely affecting component of a show...and is regularly burdened with unreasonable deadlines, squeezed by miserly budgets, flayed by deranged producers, and insulted by constantly [i]being asked to 'make it sound like the temp track.'[/i] (emphasis added)"
So, when you hear something VERY close to another composer's work, RDM has himself admitted that he is the one that often asks Bear to stay closer to the temp track (the placeholder pieces used for emotional effect until Bear takes a crack at it).
[B]Likewise. I'm able to enjoy every episode, even the ones that are obviously not as good.
[/B][/QUOTE]
Well thats a start, someone admits not all the episodes are "as good" rather than Ron and crew can do no wrong, its always perfect ;)
[Quote][i]Originally posted by Stingray[/i]
[b]But please do keep in mind, this is just supposed to be entertainment. Nothing really worth getting mad about. Nobody forces anyone to watch anything. I mean I don't watch "Days of our Lives" either (or whatever that soap is called).
Why would anyone watch a soap they don't like and bitch and moan about it on a forum that it sucks?[/b][/quote]
Thats the thing, no one is getting mad. I don't sit and watch the show and then leave the TV pissed because I hated the episode. I enjoy the episodes, even the bad ones, just not as much, I turn off the TV and thats it. However I don't subscride to the theory that if I didn't like it its not worth discussing it because it might upset other viewers. You bet I'll be in discussions posting my honest opinion. I can't help it if others don't like it. I'm also with Arethusa on the its just TV so it can't be held up to higher standards nonsense. Like any good story telling its subject to criticism. If you however think BSG is the only good TV show out there then you are not watching anything else. There are other shows that are very close or even better in quality and are VERY well written like some of my other favorites Nip/Tuck and Rescue Me which is freakin great. While its arguable wether they are better or not, thats totally a matter of preference, they easily avoid a lot of the pitfalls BSG has taken.
[B]Interesting. That explains a lot. And, yeah, I guess Moore's got a distinct Hans Zimmer fetish. [/B][/QUOTE]
Funny you should mention that. I gave the saoundtracks to my sister and she asked if he was the composer for BSG.
[B]Yes, yes, yes, it's all about money.
Wake up man, of all things, it's certainly not about scifi or art. There is nothing, but absolutely nothing new in this series. It's a repackaging of old concepts. Even the issues aren't new.
[/B][/QUOTE]
Sure, its always about the money. That doesn't necessarily change things. Ron and crew are pretty blessed they have a show that gives thempretty much absolute creative control and freedom. A bad episode, or string of bad episodes is merely the result of flat out running out of good ideas and not network intervention. SciFi sure as hell isn't forcing them to have bad episodes like Black Market to boost ratings. Particularly when you consider the weak episodes have pretty consistantly been the worse raters.
[B]Interesting. That explains a lot. And, yeah, I guess Moore's got a distinct Hans Zimmer fetish. Not that that wasn't a great soundtrack, but asking Bear to basically all but plagiarize is just fucking weird. [/B][/QUOTE]
It's not just Zimmer. Another case of temp love occured in the teaser of "Pegasus," where Eick revealed that the 1980s-prom music that accompanied the introduction of the Pegasus was inspired by the band [url=http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewArtistSongs?sortMode=0&artistId=515449]"The Psychedelic Furs."[/url] Eick had to keep reiterating to the composer that, no, this is not a joke, and yes, we want it to sound like this.
Someone more enterprising than me can go through their repertoire and try to figure out exactly which track "Pegasus" was based upon.
But the BHD similarities constantly catch me. It's just too odd for me to skip over without stopping to think. However, I'm finding the Galactica score in general to be far more casually listenable than B5 ever was. I use S1 and S2 as background music in longer-length trips in the car and find it generally pleasant on the ears. B5 is overly dramatic for the purpose and just doesn't fit well.
Also, I've mentioned many times on IRC, but I'm still a bigger fan of the Miniseries Galactica cues than almost any other piece. the vocal accompanyment is beautiful, and the tribal drums with the deep, strong string/brass pairing are magnificent. It's too bad the composer wasn't kept for the run of the series, but Bear certainly has found a nearly perfect style of his own.
(For anyone with the miniseries soundtrack, the second thematic set in Track 1, almost all of 18, and some of 24)
[B]Funny you should mention that. I gave the saoundtracks to my sister and she asked if he was the composer for BSG. [/B][/QUOTE]
A friend of mine thought Zimmer did the soundtrack to Corpse Bride, because the piano theme and Davy Jones' theme from P2 sound alike.
Needless to say, i ripped his head off... (comparing a wonderfull Danny Elfman score to that hackjob of a earbleeder that the P2 soundtrack is... bah..)
I agree Sanfam, Bear's music is great for casual listening. My playlist at work is 1.2hrs long and is made up of the following tracks attached in the pic. Starting with the themes I feel helps set the mood and I followed it with the mellow/moody stuff building to the action with Scar and Prelude to War. I did wonder about which track to finish it off with and originally I chose Passacaglia but went for Bloodshed in the end. I feels its an excellent closure type track. Prelude to War is my favourite action track, simply kicks out pure drama and tension. On the other side Lords of Kobol and Something Dark is Coming are simply stunning. I love the way he manages to blend guitar and bass with his tracks. It can be very hard to make this work in a scfi/atmospheric type track but he does it superbly. And the whole ethic side that Gibbs started and Bear continued is just wonderful.
I find that when a tv show has such a rich soundtrack that one has a deeper connection to the show. With the last 4 Star Trek series, I found the music to be lifeless, sterile and lacking emotion. I'm not saying the musicians were bad but they just wrote the standard stuff and nothing else. Obviously the powers that be wanted a standard backing soundtrack. But thats a mistake imo. And with a great score I find I can remember bits from the episodes when I listen to the tracks.
Now I wonder if Frank will refresh his sound for TLT?? Can't wait to find out.
It is interesting you say that Vorlons... I was suprised to see the last episode got panned on TV.com in the ratings. Not surprised by the rating but by how honest people have been. With the way SG1 has gone these days I would have expected very poor ratings but its kept pulling 8.5 avg scores. Maybe there are more SG1 fanboys about who will love it regardless of how crap it is.
[B]
Also, I've mentioned many times on IRC, but I'm still a bigger fan of the Miniseries Galactica cues than almost any other piece. the vocal accompanyment is beautiful, and the tribal drums with the deep, strong string/brass pairing are magnificent. It's too bad the composer wasn't kept for the run of the series, but Bear certainly has found a nearly perfect style of his own.
(For anyone with the miniseries soundtrack, the second thematic set in Track 1, almost all of 18, and some of 24) [/B][/QUOTE]
I agree, the miniseries is really what set the tone for everything and everytime I listen to it it really feels like THE trademark sound for the show. While I think Season 2 is the most easily listenable and overall best laid out of all of them so far it has veered into more traditional sound. My favorite still is season 1 and I've found myself missing a lot of the more "exotic" sounds for lack of a better word, that were commonly present in a lot of season 1.
[B]I managed to get the DTS version of the Pirates soundtrack and for me it started great but just kinda went downhill towards the end. I enjoyed it, I like Zimmer a lot but lately I've started noticing he's been raiding the parts bin that is the Zimmers Reuseable Samples Bucket a lot lot more than he's done in the past. I forget off hand which track it was but I could have sworn I heard some Crimson Tide in there somewhere. [/B][/QUOTE]
That's exactly the problem i have with zimmer.
90% of the work of his that i know, sounds alike.
And even though the Pirates1 music was the typical zimmer-produced score, i think it has more heart than the one for P2.
I'd really like to know why they switched composers...
Anyway we digress.
[B]I can't wait for the next episode, soon we'll be talking about the weather on New Caprica.... :D [/B][/QUOTE]
We already have talked about the weather in NC. How it was nice and sunny in S3 instead of cold and overcast like S2 :D Next episode is on the algae planet. I hope its a good one. There's a lot hanging on this episode being its the last cliffhanger before the make or break time change.
Wait a minute! The Temple of Five? Something tells me I see where this is going.
[B]t+23min. So far very, VERY good....
Wait a minute! The Temple of Five? Something tells me I see where this is going. [/B][/QUOTE]
I really haven't seen anything so far that hasn't been predictable and mediocre. At least it's not outright disastrous.
[B]I really haven't seen anything so far that hasn't been predictable and mediocre. At least it's not outright disastrous. [/B][/QUOTE]
Doesn't matter! Its finally moving somewhere! No time wasted showing us if Hotdog might have been a male prostitute or every other pilots life story.
[B]Doesn't matter! Its finally moving somewhere! No time wasted showing us if Hotdog might have been a male prostitute or every other pilots life story. [/B][/QUOTE]
Heh. What was that you said about Battlestar apologists?
Yeah, it's movement. Unfortunately, that movement is schizophrenically sliding out of control in a puddle of a shit.
Boomers back in Galactica clearly fully embracing her cylon self. Unfortunately we missed the transition. Would have much rather have seen some time spent on that development than in Kats silly life story. Ok I promise thats the last time I bring up Kat :D
Cool head Six is back, cry baby Caprica is getting stale. My favorite cylon brother Cavil is back, woohoo! I like his style :D