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Final thoughts or arrangements?

JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
My family on my side have all been fond of burial and ritual. I have no animosity toward their beliefs, but I cannot stand the thought of being a financial and/or mental burden when I go beyond the veil. To spend $20k on a fancy coffin and to be mourned over in death is not appealing to me.

So, I too want to be cremated, and my ashes spread in a forest or in the woods near my home. I don't want a lot of fanfare or a big gathering. Those who might need that can plan their own ceremony.

My interpretation of my faith and my interpretation of other faiths I have studied is that we do not fight death to live here on Earth, but we fight in life and in death for the right to exist. I believe we exist after death in yet another state, so why would I prolong being tied to the physical shell of my life on Earth, and why would I want others to be bound to it either?

Fond memories do not require a head stone to visit... They live in the mind of the one who remembers.

Celebrate my life as it was, and be happy for my continued journey beyond, and you will honor my memory and your friendship.

;)

Comments

  • Mr_BesterMr_Bester Earthforce Officer St Louis MO
    I hope these thoughts are not coming up because of issues with your recent surgery.

    I agree with you about most of what you said. And, I can tell you that if you go with cremation, the Funeral home company will be screwing you much less. We have an ongoing contract with a major Funeral conglomerate and I have seen their costs. Markup on coffins and such is at least double.

    Again, I hope everything is well and you are just being prepared.

    dug
  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    I feel that because I take from the Earth in my life I want to give back upon my death. I would like my un burnt remains put into a simple, wooden box, hopefully constructed by my children and close love ones, and be burried deep in a forest so my remains can nurture new life.

    As far as celibrations, I want people to celibrate my life and the friendship and love we shared. Yes I hope they will miss me, but I want them to share stories and to know that I loved them and always will.
  • FreejackFreejack Jake the Not-so-Wise
    At death, I'd be happy with a pine box and a big party...

    Jake
  • PSI-KILLERPSI-KILLER Needs help
    My niece at the young age of 23 died an unnatural death on july 17. After a 14 hour drive to Atlanta i was able to view the body the next day before cremation.

    The motion of saying goodbye to her before the final state of ashes made the trip worth it and a feeling of small relief did happen between the great saddness that was around me. I would definitly say try to have the memorys of life around so people remember you for what you were like when alive. The drive back on july 22nd was actually easier after saying the last goodbye.

    My sister used dignity memoral services. It was top class for what it was. They even give an internet memoral with slideshows to remember the LIFE!!!

    [url]http://www.mem.com/display/biography.asp?ID=1444539[/url]



    I hope Jackn this is just hypothetical talk and your just gloomy and doomy out of bordom.
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    Yeah just being prepared... ;)

    The recent stuff has made me think about my mortality more lately, but I don't think I'll be leaving soon (one never knows for surethough)... :D

    :)
  • CurZCurZ Resident Hippy
    Re: Final thoughts or arrangements?

    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JackN [/i]
    [B]Fond memories do not require a head stone to visit... They live in the mind of the one who remembers.[/B][/QUOTE]

    That's exactly the way I feel. It's hard for most of my wife's family to understand though. I get the feeling they're still trying to coerce me into participating in all their ceremonies and rituals. Oh well, cultural differences.

    I want my body to be cremated (posthumously if possible). Then the ashes should be poured into a doggy bag and be used as fertilizer for a small cannabis forest. I'd take some comfort in helping people get high :p
  • samuelksamuelk The Unstoppable Mr. 'K'
    Re: Final thoughts or arrangements?

    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JackN [/i]
    [B]My family on my side have all been fond of burial and ritual. I have no animosity toward their beliefs, but I cannot stand the thought of being a financial and/or mental burden when I go beyond the veil. To spend $20k on a fancy coffin and to be mourned over in death is not appealing to me.

    So, I too want to be cremated, and my ashes spread in a forest or in the woods near my home. I don't want a lot of fanfare or a big gathering. Those who might need that can plan their own ceremony.

    My interpretation of my faith and my interpretation of other faiths I have studied is that we do not fight death to live here on Earth, but we fight in life and in death for the right to exist. I believe we exist after death in yet another state, so why would I prolong being tied to the physical shell of my life on Earth, and why would I want others to be bound to it either?

    Fond memories do not require a head stone to visit... They live in the mind of the one who remembers.

    Celebrate my life as it was, and be happy for my continued journey beyond, and you will honor my memory and your friendship.

    ;) [/B][/QUOTE]

    To play devil's advocate (well, that phrase opens up a can of worms in this context, but anyway...)

    Look at the whole burial/headstone thing this way, Jack...

    Do you have any Babylon 5 ITF stuff? Why keep it if your memories are all you need to remember?

    :)
  • I know how you feel after my wife passed away at 25. It's really hard to know what you want. We had a lot of relatives to pass away and it got my wife and I thinking and we talked about it one day. I never thought... I was just glad I knew what she wanted. To be the last thing she wanted, I'm glad I could have done it for her. For myself... it's still a big confusing mess.
  • Entil'ZhaEntil'Zha I see famous people
    I'm all for cremation, but i wouldnt mind having a Headstone somewhere, but it has to have something funky written on it.

    there is a Headstone at one of the cemetaries here in town that simply has the persons birth date, death date and "I'll see you on the dark side of the moon" i always liked that one.
  • MessiahMessiah Failed Experiment
    I want to have a nice asatru burial. Being cremated in a ship, and have stones piled over me. Not too fancy, there are plans for several asatru cemetaries in Sweden, if the organisatios would just agree on where..
  • Entil'ZhaEntil'Zha I see famous people
    I'd like to be loaded into a photon tube and shot into the genesis planet...
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    Re: Re: Final thoughts or arrangements?

    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by samuelk [/i]
    [B]To play devil's advocate (well, that phrase opens up a can of worms in this context, but anyway...)

    Look at the whole burial/headstone thing this way, Jack...

    Do you have any Babylon 5 ITF stuff? Why keep it if your memories are all you need to remember?

    :) [/B][/QUOTE]

    Well probably not the best example for you to use, but I get your point. ;)

    My memories of the B5:Itf days ARE all that I have now...

    :p
  • The Cabl3 GuyThe Cabl3 Guy Elite Ranger
    I'll take the cross any day ;)
  • TyvarTyvar Next best thing to a St. Bernard
    JackN on the B5 ITF stuff here, dont cave into the vultures, have it all cremated with you, who the hell says you cant take your toys with you when you go! ;)

    I secretly plot on being burried with my weapons like a good germanic/viking warrior ;)
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