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Helping the world fight for freedom

croxiscroxis I am the walrus
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  • PJHPJH The Lovely Thing
    That's a great thing. Lets hope it works as they've planned. :)

    And what comes to what Google and some other companies have done helping to reduce freedom in China in order to make more money, their executives should be arrested and held accountable.

    - PJH
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    You know that WalMart doesn't want to rock the boat...

    All their shit comes from China...

    And all our jobs went there...

    Unless you work for WalMart itself...

    :rolleyes:
  • FreejackFreejack Jake the Not-so-Wise
    While I do disagree with those companies who've allow themselves to be sensored, lets take a pragmatic approach.

    First, China is a hugh emerging market. The rate of growth of the middle class there is staggering and almost any company can recognize that this market will be one of the most important both in the near and distant future.

    Second, in the long run the Chinese people will be better off if provided these tools and services, abit censored ones, than if not at all, since the alternative is likely an internal, state-run search.

    As far as jobs going to China, its just means our job mix has changed from general manufacturing to more specialized activities, otherwise we would would see staggering unemployement numbers in this country, as the population growth and job exodus would work against a low umemployment, but that simply is not the case. Unemployment has actually trended downward since a peak in 1983.

    Jake
  • TyvarTyvar Next best thing to a St. Bernard
    As croxis smacked me for saying on IRC, Google = whores.

    Seriously they would ignore the US governments requests for censoring information, based on "moral" issues, yet bend to the PRC? doesnt anybody else smell hypocracy?

    Or is it just cowardess? they know they can get away with in the the US, but the PRC will take away their ability to play there at best. At worst, googles china personel could find themselves "re-educated"
  • AlaricAlaric Damn kids! Get off my island!
    While the chinese google servers are censored (to a point), the others are still available anyway so what's the big deal? How long do you think it will be before it is common knowledge how to work around the restraints? Not long, the internet itself will see to that and we all know it.

    Isn't it better to get inside the place and start changing things from within than deprive them of the service entirely?
  • E.TE.T Quote-o-matic
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Alaric [/i]
    [B]While the chinese google servers are censored (to a point), the others are still available anyway so what's the big deal?[/B][/QUOTE]You forgot that Cisco and others have given methods for PRC to filter traffic going through internet so Google servers in other countries won't propably work.
  • ArethusaArethusa Universal Cathode
    I want to know why this is such a big deal. Why, exactly, is everyone blaming Google? Do you know where your clothes were made? Where your computer parts were manufactured? Where the crude oil that made the gas in your car came from? Where the money that got your Congressional representatives came from?

    This is by far some of the most brazen hypocrisy I have ever seen. Google has done nothing that hasn't been done before, and even with this, they are still by far the least evil corporation I can think of.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    What Arethusa said. Google is far from the first.
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    Certainly won't be the last either...
  • AlaricAlaric Damn kids! Get off my island!
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by E.T [/i]
    [B]You forgot that Cisco and others have given methods for PRC to filter traffic going through internet so Google servers in other countries won't propably work. [/B][/QUOTE]
    I think I read a page from Google that said that their servers in China would be faster and filtered but the others were still available just slower.
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    ...Meanwhile...

    People are dying around the world over a cartoon...

    *sigh*
  • AlaricAlaric Damn kids! Get off my island!
    true,

    stupidity is the default human condition
  • TyvarTyvar Next best thing to a St. Bernard
    Dont think my distate is for google alone, I have plenty enough to go around for everybody from Cisco to GM.
  • ArethusaArethusa Universal Cathode
    And for every single other company in this country? And every elected official? And everyone who wears clothes that were produced in any third world country?
  • TyvarTyvar Next best thing to a St. Bernard
    Well, I am a mysanthrope, so yeah, I got room for that too.

    But not every company does buisness in china, and not all third world contries involved in the textile trade have the over all problems that china does.

    Your making some pretty broad sweeps there arent you?
  • ArethusaArethusa Universal Cathode
    I don't have to. This country's economy is inextricably bound to China. There is no person who has not in some way benefitted from that involvement. That Google is now being singled out is just hypocritical political opportunism.
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