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Plasma Vs LCD (not a googlefight)
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Ok guys, what do you know about Plasma Vs LCD tv's?
i'm thinking of replacing my current tube tv (its just too damn big)
but i'm not sure if i wanna go plasma, or LCD.
i'm thinking of replacing my current tube tv (its just too damn big)
but i'm not sure if i wanna go plasma, or LCD.
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But if you must get your tv right now, then LCD is better... but it has to use LED backround lighting.
[B]Canon should bring their first "moderately" priced model to market H1 2006. [/B][/QUOTE]
define "moderately" priced
[B]Probably too expensive, I'd say $5000-10000. But hey, 50" screens don't come cheap. [/B][/QUOTE]
lol, well, they do if they are LCD or Plasma (cheap being a relative term)
We bought it after doing quite a bit of research and found that it was the best choice out of plasma and LCD at the time (about 6 months ago), despite the shorter lifetime.
[B]We recently bought a very nice [url=http://www.killbots.net/gallery/random/IMG_4640]50" Samsung plasma TV[/url] for "research" in our lab. It has good picture quality and plenty of inputs (the glare and reflection in that photo is caused by the 50" touch panel on top, not the TV). The only issue we have with it is that we can't convince it not to overscan the component signal from the computer.
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I'm actually looking at a 32 inch Samsung LCD, i currently have a Samsung 30 inch widescreen HD Tube tv, whcih i love, it's just too damn big, depth wise. its about $1,200
the 32 inch LCD has most of the same features as my 30 inch tube, and i love it.
and the 42 inch plasma was i think $1600, it was a phillips.
My Philips HDTV LCD gives me great pleasure. Only 23" but hey...
Was a closeout for 1/2 price ~$600.
;)
[B]I'm actually looking at a 32 inch Samsung LCD, i currently have a Samsung 30 inch widescreen HD Tube tv, whcih i love, it's just too damn big, depth wise. its about $1,200
the 32 inch LCD has most of the same features as my 30 inch tube, and i love it.
and the 42 inch plasma was i think $1600, it was a phillips. [/B][/QUOTE]
Yea, you could have said that at the beginning. [url=http://www.westinghousedigital.com/pc-26-7-37-1080p-monitor.aspx]37" 1080p Westinghouse[/url] would make a great compromise at $1400.
[B]Yea, you could have said that at the beginning. [url=http://www.westinghousedigital.com/pc-26-7-37-1080p-monitor.aspx]37" 1080p Westinghouse[/url] would make a great compromise at $1400. [/B][/QUOTE]
I'm not a big fan of refubished high ticket items. although if i buy it from best buy at full retail, they throw in a free massage chair, mmmmm
[B]I'm not a big fan of refubished high ticket items.[/B][/QUOTE]
Me neither, but you have to ask yourself whether or not you want to watch 1080p movies and stuff... then you really need to have a TV that supports such high resolution. If not, then go ahead and buy that Samsung you've long desired, it's as simple as that. Your call.
[B]Me neither, but you have to ask yourself whether or not you want to watch 1080p movies and stuff... then you really need to have a TV that supports such high resolution. If not, then go ahead and buy that Samsung you've long desired, it's as simple as that. Your call. [/B][/QUOTE]
How many DVD's are out in 1080i right now? sure its nice, but since i currenly only have a DVD player tha'll do 480p..
I get the fact that you REALLY like this TV, but my main question was about the differenaces between Plasma/LCD and if anyone here knew which was better etc. Not to find a specific brand.
That does look like a nice TV, but not sure its what i need, especially because it doesn't have enough inputs for me lol. i have to many components.
Plasma TVs don't have long life due to the ionization process, resulting in 3-4 years at "average use" (higher than most people use it) as the normal lifespan of these (until half-brightness; another 3-4 years for quarter brightness). Low res for their size, but very good picture.
LCDs (except Samsung) don't have user replacable bulbs, and the backlights give out after usually about 5 years, meaning a costly service center call to get the backlight replaced, otherwise very nice quality. Also, I haven't found any decent sized decent branded LCDs that had built in HDTV tuners - thus another couple hundred dollars to get that.
CRT is the old workhorse but you can't get this in widescreen. Some of them do come with HDTV Tuners, others you have to buy the tuner seperately.
Projection CRT is a widescreen and reliable (almost never fails), but has very low contrast during daytime (and weak contrast at night). It's still huge, but now the dimension of limit is height, not depth.
Projection LCD is what I chose. It has the benifits of the higher-than-plasma res of an LCD, is not huge (compared to a CRT or Projection CRT), and provides sharp images at night. Daytime the images are a little washed out, so you'll want curtains if you're in a bright room, though it will work OK in a darker room.
Projection DLP is the "best" of the projection types, but apparently there is a "rainbow effect" associated with DLP technology. It gives a true color picture, but is still very expensive compared to all the other types.
All projection TVs have replaceable bulbs. Most are user replaceable, but you have to check with each brand/model on that. Generally bulbs run about $200-300 depending on the model, and last about 2-4 years.
Now for price:
~24-30" LCD = ~$1000-2000 (excluding HDTV Tuner)
~42" Plasma = ~$1500-2000
~50" Plasma = ~$2000-4000
~42" Projection CRT = ~$600-1200
~50" Projection CRT = ~$1000-1500
~42" Projection LCD = ~$2000-3000
~50" Projection LCD = ~$3000-5000
~50" DLP = ~$4000-7000
Now, as a note, my 42" Projection LCD was on sale and so I got it for $1400 (after rebate, including a $300 stand). But that model has since been retired I believe. I've been happy with it - it is the Hitachi 42V710.
[B]Then how about this one? [url]http://www.westinghousedigital.com/pc-44-7-42-1080p-monitor.aspx[/url] [/B][/QUOTE]So they are making also other things than nuclear reactors... :D
Well, sure you have to participate to increasing demand for power.
[B]Me neither, but you have to ask yourself whether or not you want to watch 1080p movies and stuff... then you really need to have a TV that supports such high resolution. If not, then go ahead and buy that Samsung you've long desired, it's as simple as that. Your call. [/B][/QUOTE]
An Upconversion DVD player runs about $150. That's the only way you're getting anything better than svideo resolution out of a DVD (svid can go up to 800x600, but DVD players might not go to the limit on that).
Also note that the Westinghouse doesn't have an HDTV Tuner (so add another $100-200 to the price to get that as an stand alone unit). General rule: "HDTV Monitor" means no HDTV tuner. "HDTV" means "yes, I have an HDTV tuner."
:)
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by E.T [/i]
[B]So they are making also other things than nuclear reactors... :D[/B][/QUOTE]
They also make Singaporean Mass Rapit Transit railway systems. :)
I'm gonna go over the few things i've seen in looking,
I've looked at HD projection, and DLP, and honestly, i really dont like the way they look, you still lose picture from angles, and the way my room is set up, someone would always be at an odd angle to the tv, the LCD's seem to have a bigger viewable angle.
My current tv is a widescreen samsung CRT HD Monitor, I dont neccarily need an HD reciver built into the TV, because where i live, if i get Digital cable, they will provide me the HD box (actually i've got one sitting out in my entry way waiting to go back to my evil cable company) If i use satellite i can buy an HD reciever, but where my dish is situated it doesnt get the HD satellite, i need to get it re-mounted, if the trees aren't in the way. and for over the air HD.. Ugh, i live about 40 miles from my nearest repeaters, so i have to get one of the old fassioned big assed rooftop arials in order to get the signal, So at this moment, HD isn't really a big deal for me (although when i had it with cable i sure got spoiled, if we ever get a cable company here that does NOT suck i may get it again)
As for Price, the Samsung i was looking at was at Sams Club, and was $1299 for a 32 inch LCD. thats doable.
My other problem is Inputs, if its got a built in HD reciver then thats one less, but if not, then i'll need DVI/HDMI for an HD reciever if i get one, i need 2 Component connections, one for my DVD player, one extra "just in case" 2 S-Video, or 1 S video + 1 composite for my 2 Tivo's, (and actually a 3rd s-video or 2 s video + 2 coposite, because if i drop DirecTV, i need a 3rd Tivo to maintain the same recording capablity)
Ugh, what a pain, lol
[B]I honestly think both flat screen LCD and flat screen Plasma EDTV look fine. I have a panasonic EDTV TH-42PD50 w/built in tuners 42" for 1300.00 online total cost, no tax and free shipping. And a Westinghouse 17" flatscreen hanging on my wall in my bedroom for 375.00 with tax since bought locally LTV-17v1. The are both fantastic. A true HDTV cost 2 g's more then a EDTV but EDTV are 20% less resolution. [/B][/QUOTE]
2g more? uhh, i think you've mixed your metaphors, I've got an HD Monitor that i paid $1,000 for, + a $200 reciever and its HD, and you can get an HD LCD with an HDTV Tuner built in for around $1800. where did the $2grand extra come from?
unless we're talking at cross purposes.
EDTV is 480 pixels high.
HDTV is 720 or 1080 pixels high.
--RC
[B]Most plasma's are EDTV resolution becuase Plasma technology doesn't lend itself to higher res than that.
EDTV is 480 pixels high.
HDTV is 720 or 1080 pixels high.
--RC [/B][/QUOTE]
yeah, none of the plasmas that i've looked are are anything but 480/720/1080
lots of really cheap EDTV tubes, but all the plasmas i've seen do 480/720/1080i making them HD
My current tube is HD and i only paid $1,000 for it
My HDTV handles all those signals, but natively is only 720p.
[B]Check the actual resolution also. There are a lot of TVs out there that support 480/720/1080 signals and inputs that don't display anything higher than 480, even widescreen ones.
My HDTV handles all those signals, but natively is only 720p. [/B][/QUOTE]
Just out of curiosity, where are you that you are getting things in 720p?
where i am, the over the air stuff isnt even 480p, even the standard direcTV feeds are not 480p. unless your tv is upconverting to 720p.