[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by David of Mac [/i]
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Well, the old one's were sophisticated enough to rebel, so I doubt the new ones would be inferior mentally.
Unless, of course, the Cylons didn't decide to rebel on their own, but were taken as patsies by an outside force.
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This has been a pretty hot topic since RDM's stating that the mechanical centurions are NOT sentient models. The first thing to note is that the original series has no real relevance to the new one. They just take some aspects of it but just because something was one way doesn't mean it is now. Its never been established who were the original cylons that rebelled. It was generally assumed that they were all the same and they all rebelled but its far more likely that there were several versions, possibly including the most highly advanced "brain" models that were likely the ones that rebelled. For example in the original series there were the ones with the transparent lighted heads (remember Lucifer?) who were the intelligent ones while the centurions were really just appeared to be dumb mindless drones. One theory going is that many of the current humano-cylons are actually the embodiement of the consciousness of those original sentient robotic models. By that reason I find it perfectly acceptable that the centurions are not sentient. It makes sense militarily. A sophisticated enough AI capable of understanding military duties and other random things like planting trees is still a far cry from achieving any form of sentience.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by PSI-KILLER [/i]
[B]Good episode. I can only wounder where all plot lines are going? [/B][/QUOTE]
Every time I see the tag line "...and they have a plan" in the intro, I quietly ask myself "Yes, but do the writers?" I sure hope so.
I don't know if you noticed, but RDM is a heavy smoker. I don't know what he's smoking, but he smokes like 3-4 cigarettes during his pod casts alone. He almost panicked when his Zippo had problems igniting during his 218 commentary session.
Spoiler alert, the episode is old.. but dont continue if you havent seen it :)
Great episode indeed, when they start to find out who their God really is.. I think Baltar has somekind of part in that story...
But the idea of each Cylon having unique feelings and thoughts is a bit interesting. I have watched the first episodes of Calagtica to bright up the mission and background of Sharon. And she will be trouble afterwards to the galactica crew. And when the unavoidable happens, two Sharon collide.. I think its not going to be hot lesbian action (I wish, I wish), its going to be a fight where S1 or S2 dies. Perhaps with help of Helo or Tyrell?
I love the moment where you could go on and on, and think every possibilities.. The show is now at that moment.
Lets just hope the writers keep up the story so, that we will not see any other Blackbirds near future...
Super episode! [Spoiler]I was intrigued with Baltar's role. Goes to show I was right to suspect that he did not survive the blast at his home. He couldn't have. If a Cylon couldn't then neither would he, despite 6 shielding him. Ok we still don't have solid proof he's a Cylon but the last episode has added him into the circle. But at the same time the others didn't know he was there with 6 when the blast wave hit. hmmmmm[/Spoiler]
Spoiler: All this Baltar plot is making my head spin. I mean, it's reasonable to think that he died along with Six on Caprica. But that would also mean that not only do they download, they also synchronize with their database, otherwise how would the "surviving" Baltar know all the things the "vaporized" Baltar had done before dying? Does this make any sense at all? I mean as we have seen there are many copies of the clones living different lives and yet somehow they should all share the same knowledge. As we have seen they don't. The Six captured by Pegasus didn't know anything about the relationship the Caprican Six had with Baltar. No wonder RDM is smoking so much. :D
Spoiler: Only the new models off the production line and the ones that die, get the recent downloads... ;)
It's a matter of timing... remember that death is a learning experience for them.Some models have been in the trenches so to speak for a while and have stagnated to some extent.
I'm wondering two things at the moment...
1. If Baltar is a Cylon.
2. If Baltar and Six crossed wires in the Nuclear blast, or before that during sex, or...
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JackN [/i]
[B] Spoiler: 2. If Baltar and Six crossed wires in the Nuclear blast, or before that during sex, or... [/B][/QUOTE]
Spoiler: It would have to be a combination, otherwise Helo and Boomer would have the same problem.
Spoiler: I find it extremely unlikely that Baltar is intended to be a cylon. Everyone would know what he looks like, and it opens up a sea of plot holes that would never make sense (I would find RDM and beat him to death with a copy of Basic).
And none of that takes into account thematic complexities that would be completely wasted by taking such a cheap and boring way out of the plot. Something much more interesting is happening here.
Spoiler: But that didn't keep it from being an excellent fake-out during Six's resurrection scene, when you see Baltar's hand on the edge of the tub and scream, "Oh my God! He's a Cylon!" I literally fell off the couch.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Stingray [/i]
[B] Spoiler: I mean as we have seen there are many copies of the clones living different lives and yet somehow they should all share the same knowledge. As we have seen they don't. The Six captured by Pegasus didn't know anything about the relationship the Caprican Six had with Baltar. No wonder RDM is smoking so much. :D [/B][/QUOTE]
From all that we've seen so far there are many copies but they are not the same person so to speak. I guess they are like twins. They start the same but develop into different people. If one body dies then the resulting ressurected body is the same person and consciousness. But another copy that has lived a different life is a different being with its own "soul" or whatever. They are not synchronized with each other in any way unless they are programmed for some mission.
[Spoiler]Well the 2nd last ep of the season was ok. But it was a bit all over the place. Was way too much going on. Was a bit rushed imo. I can see what they are trying to do, have a couple of story lines converging to one big climax for the last episode. But for me it didn't go as smoothly as it could have.
I can see one major flaw with the new hidden plant. All it takes is for one of the human cylons to die and bam their location is revealed. Also one thing has bugged me about the impedding rescue mission to Caprica. I wonder have they thought about the possibility that they might be bringing back more Cylon spies?
All the same was cool to see Dean Stockwell, played a good role as always![/Spoiler]
Spoiler: Agreed. Now I'd also like to mention that it seems like they were really forcing the idea that Dean Stockwell's character is a cylon. While it may turn out to be that he's just sarcastic like that, I highly doubt it. The guy was driving me bonkers. But I did love him. :D
The other thing is...Is it genuinely worth it to risk 20 raptors for a few lives? I mean, that's *20* raptors, the sum of the fleet right there. It's not like they can order spares if disaster strikes. I think the whole mission was a terrible decision. Hell, they're out at least one now, with all that jumping into a mountain business...
Spoiler: It wasn't 20 raptors now was it? Seemed like maybe little over a dozen. They still need a lot of them anyway. It is a rescue mission and they are going in expecting to rescue something like 50-100 survivors which IIRC was more or less what was left of the resistance. Can't very well cram them in to 4 or 5 of them. Much less once you factor in two pilots and a detachment of marines and consider for possible losses.
It did occur to me that some of the resistance might be agents and begs to be written in as a future plot point. I find it unlikely though. The members of the resistance are probably a tight group and if any one of them was an agent they could have been given away and annihalated months ago. They have managed to escape for too long to have been infiltrated. Another interesting possibility is that the resistance might be able to identify some of the models we don't know about yet given they've been running straight into them for months. Hell, if/when Anders gets to the fleet the first one he'll recognize is D'Anna Biers after she almost blew his head off in Downloaded.
I did like that they address the distance of the jump and how dificult it was to get back being so far away. One of the things that worried me before watching the episode is that the jump thing was going to be realloy lame if they've been going as far away as possible only to be able to make it back to caprica instantly on a whime. At least we finally see what happened to the cylon heavy raider they stole to escape Caprica.
Spoiler: Ok, now the one thing that REALLY bugged me was Sharon relapsing into Data mode. Was it really necessary to ruin the episode in the same way as Flight of the Phoenix with that stupid fiberoptic cable in the arm thing?
Oh, and man they really beat the crap out of Cally. I thought she was dead. The poor girl is the shows punching bag. She's been nearly raped, shot, imprisoned and now beaten to within an inch of her life.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Vorlons in my Head [/i]
[B] Spoiler: Ok, now the one thing that REALLY bugged me was Sharon relapsing into Data mode. Was it really necessary to ruin the episode in the same way as Flight of the Phoenix with that stupid fiberoptic cable in the arm thing?
Oh, and man they really beat the crap out of Cally. I thought she was dead. The poor girl is the shows punching bag. She's been nearly raped, shot, imprisoned and now beaten to within an inch of her life. [/B][/QUOTE]
I think she likes it. :D
Spoiler: I mean, with all those loose ends it's going to be a hell of a season finale. The presidential election, the new planet, Caprica's rescue mission, Pegasus, not to mention all the problems of the main cast. Adama and Tigh seem to have taken the backseat. Quite frankly with all this excitement on all those fronts, they completely forgot about the Cylons. Not sure where the third season is headed and if there is any point using the original show for guidance, but isn't Baltar supposed to break away from the fleet at some point? It's possible that the outcome of the election will trigger events in that direction, but I doubt he'll be spending the rest of his life down on that new planet. So many things to consider and only 90 minutes left for this season. :eek:
[Spoiler]Yeah I suppose it would be safe to say that any Cylons in the resistance have been taken out by now. But good point Vorlons in my Head... Anders seeing Biers will certainly open a whole can of worms, assuming he makes it off Caprica.
I have a feeling the final episode will go like this:
1. The rescue will succeed but with obvious loses
2. Baltar wins the election, Roslin finds it hard to take
3. With the election result the fleet splits between those wanting to settle on the planet and those wanting to follow Roslin to Earth.
4. Pegasus stays to guard the new planet with Galactica taking the rest of the fleet onwards to Earth, with Roslin leading that part of the fleet.
My 2 cents anyway. Logically it doesn't make sense to split resources and defence like that but I feel the election will devide the fleet quite badly, between those supporters of Baltar's scientific/logical view (well aparent logical view) to Roslins more spiritual view.
I was kinda surprised at the Chiefs story. Didn't expect him to go nuts like that. Sure they all have been through hell but he's had a raw deal too. And his scenes with Stockwell were intriging. Stockwell's character seemed to know exactly what to ask the Chief and really did stick to the Cylon thread. But then I suppose if you look at the Chief's history, with Boomer and the general paranoia, it would be hard for people not to fear they are sleeper Cylons.[/Spoiler]
Spoiler: Does anybody think that Racetracks raptor just accidentally jumping next to a hidden habitable planet was a simple navigation accident? I think Boomer is up to something and did that on puspose
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Falcon1 [/i]
[B][Spoiler]4. Pegasus stays to guard the new planet with Galactica taking the rest of the fleet onwards to Earth, with Roslin leading that part of the fleet.[/Spoiler] [/B][/QUOTE]
Spoiler: If that does happen, it'll be a temporary affair, as Moore said on the Podcast a couple of weeks ago that Lee's command of the Pegasus will be rather important come season 3.
Spoiler: I have to say I had thought about the planet being conveniently handed to Racetrack via Boomer (either knowingly or unknowingly), but then I thought about why would she sned one of the raptors into a mountain... (is that really any of her doing, or is it just sheer misfortune warping into an atmosphere like that).
The planet might be a gift from the (two hero's of the cylon).
Notice Six's emphasis on "Having Faith"... rather interesting forshadow there.
Let's not forget that at the end of this ep, they are caught in a surrounding hail of fire yet no-one seems to be getting hit, rather just caged, so it seems their position was known, and maybe a prelude to rooting out the resistance from Caprica.
What happens when Breeder Boomer meets Cylon Hero Boomer? That should be interesting...
Also, Baltar is eventually going to break away from the fleet somehow if the old series is any indication. How that happens in this series will undoubtably be much more interesting... :)
We already know that Roslin will call Baltar on his cylon connection, or at least claim that he is working with them.
I'd stop looking to the original series for guidance. They've already said they're done with drawing plot lines from it, and sending Baltar fleeing is a bit too dull and predictable.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JackN [/i]
[B] Spoiler: I have to say I had thought about the planet being conveniently handed to Racetrack via Boomer (either knowingly or unknowingly), but then I thought about why would she sned one of the raptors into a mountain... (is that really any of her doing, or is it just sheer misfortune warping into an atmosphere like that).
The planet might be a gift from the (two hero's of the cylon).
Notice Six's emphasis on "Having Faith"... rather interesting forshadow there.
Let's not forget that at the end of this ep, they are caught in a surrounding hail of fire yet no-one seems to be getting hit, rather just caged, so it seems their position was known, and maybe a prelude to rooting out the resistance from Caprica.
What happens when Breeder Boomer meets Cylon Hero Boomer? That should be interesting...
Also, Baltar is eventually going to break away from the fleet somehow if the old series is any indication. How that happens in this series will undoubtably be much more interesting... :)
We already know that Roslin will call Baltar on his cylon connection, or at least claim that he is working with them.
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Spoiler: The jumping into the mountain was a simple accident. They were jumping very close to the surface. owever placing a raptor accidentally and randomly close withing maybe a few thousand clicks of a hard to detect habitable world is just too unlikely.
Baltars final disclosure as a colaborater I think will play out very well. Its always really been a matter of time before he's figured out. It looks obvious from the previews that Baltar will be elected president and Roslin will try to steal the election by outing him. This will probably play out in Baltars favor. It will look like nothing more than a hopeless and baseless accusation by Roslin to get back in power. Baltar will just be able to shrugg it off and worst of all, he will then be the one in power. He's not going anywhere.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Arethusa [/i]
[B]I'd stop looking to the original series for guidance. They've already said they're done with drawing plot lines from it, and sending Baltar fleeing is a bit too dull and predictable. [/B][/QUOTE]
Spoiler: Well I didn't really mean that Baltar would be sent fleeing... Just that he wouldn't be necessarily ship bound from this point on. It is clear that he will be taking on a more proactive role, instead of reacting to every situation from now on...
;)
And I realize that the original series is not a good guide book, but I do think that it is his time to get out from under the Roslin foot and spread his wings a bit.
Spoiler: I'm a bit curious about the actual jumping into the mountain bit. If they were picking up the transponder, wouldn't it mean the ship was *intact* and that none of the circuitry was mangled by the combination with rocks? And along those lines, that the ship would actually be sitting inside a raptor-shaped cavity, devoid of non-raptor material? (which would also mean they could, theoretically, power up the FTL drive and make a jump out of the rock, since the FTL drive appears to not require motion of any sort to engage...right? I highly doubt a transponder would function if it suddenly became a hybrid rock/circuit device :P This isn't to say didn't materialize in a rock, but that it just wasn't .
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Vorlons in my Head [/i]
[B] Spoiler: The jumping into the mountain was a simple accident. They were jumping very close to the surface. owever placing a raptor accidentally and randomly close withing maybe a few thousand clicks of a hard to detect habitable world is just too unlikely. [/B][/QUOTE]
Spoiler: Actually, I listened to Ron Moore's Podcast along with the encore episode last night, and he said outright that misjumping to the planet was out-and-out a complete, total accident.
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Well, the old one's were sophisticated enough to rebel, so I doubt the new ones would be inferior mentally.
Unless, of course, the Cylons didn't decide to rebel on their own, but were taken as patsies by an outside force.
[/B][/QUOTE]
This has been a pretty hot topic since RDM's stating that the mechanical centurions are NOT sentient models. The first thing to note is that the original series has no real relevance to the new one. They just take some aspects of it but just because something was one way doesn't mean it is now. Its never been established who were the original cylons that rebelled. It was generally assumed that they were all the same and they all rebelled but its far more likely that there were several versions, possibly including the most highly advanced "brain" models that were likely the ones that rebelled. For example in the original series there were the ones with the transparent lighted heads (remember Lucifer?) who were the intelligent ones while the centurions were really just appeared to be dumb mindless drones. One theory going is that many of the current humano-cylons are actually the embodiement of the consciousness of those original sentient robotic models. By that reason I find it perfectly acceptable that the centurions are not sentient. It makes sense militarily. A sophisticated enough AI capable of understanding military duties and other random things like planting trees is still a far cry from achieving any form of sentience.
[B]Good episode. I can only wounder where all plot lines are going? [/B][/QUOTE]
Every time I see the tag line "...and they have a plan" in the intro, I quietly ask myself "Yes, but do the writers?" I sure hope so.
Great episode indeed, when they start to find out who their God really is.. I think Baltar has somekind of part in that story...
But the idea of each Cylon having unique feelings and thoughts is a bit interesting. I have watched the first episodes of Calagtica to bright up the mission and background of Sharon. And she will be trouble afterwards to the galactica crew. And when the unavoidable happens, two Sharon collide.. I think its not going to be hot lesbian action (I wish, I wish), its going to be a fight where S1 or S2 dies. Perhaps with help of Helo or Tyrell?
I love the moment where you could go on and on, and think every possibilities.. The show is now at that moment.
Lets just hope the writers keep up the story so, that we will not see any other Blackbirds near future...
Oh, and almost forgot:
Spoiler: I'm a Cylon
It's a matter of timing... remember that death is a learning experience for them.Some models have been in the trenches so to speak for a while and have stagnated to some extent.
I'm wondering two things at the moment...
1. If Baltar is a Cylon.
2. If Baltar and Six crossed wires in the Nuclear blast, or before that during sex, or...
[B] Spoiler: 2. If Baltar and Six crossed wires in the Nuclear blast, or before that during sex, or... [/B][/QUOTE]
Spoiler: It would have to be a combination, otherwise Helo and Boomer would have the same problem.
Worf
And none of that takes into account thematic complexities that would be completely wasted by taking such a cheap and boring way out of the plot. Something much more interesting is happening here.
[B] Spoiler: I mean as we have seen there are many copies of the clones living different lives and yet somehow they should all share the same knowledge. As we have seen they don't. The Six captured by Pegasus didn't know anything about the relationship the Caprican Six had with Baltar. No wonder RDM is smoking so much. :D [/B][/QUOTE]
From all that we've seen so far there are many copies but they are not the same person so to speak. I guess they are like twins. They start the same but develop into different people. If one body dies then the resulting ressurected body is the same person and consciousness. But another copy that has lived a different life is a different being with its own "soul" or whatever. They are not synchronized with each other in any way unless they are programmed for some mission.
I can see one major flaw with the new hidden plant. All it takes is for one of the human cylons to die and bam their location is revealed. Also one thing has bugged me about the impedding rescue mission to Caprica. I wonder have they thought about the possibility that they might be bringing back more Cylon spies?
All the same was cool to see Dean Stockwell, played a good role as always![/Spoiler]
The other thing is...Is it genuinely worth it to risk 20 raptors for a few lives? I mean, that's *20* raptors, the sum of the fleet right there. It's not like they can order spares if disaster strikes. I think the whole mission was a terrible decision. Hell, they're out at least one now, with all that jumping into a mountain business...
It did occur to me that some of the resistance might be agents and begs to be written in as a future plot point. I find it unlikely though. The members of the resistance are probably a tight group and if any one of them was an agent they could have been given away and annihalated months ago. They have managed to escape for too long to have been infiltrated. Another interesting possibility is that the resistance might be able to identify some of the models we don't know about yet given they've been running straight into them for months. Hell, if/when Anders gets to the fleet the first one he'll recognize is D'Anna Biers after she almost blew his head off in Downloaded.
I did like that they address the distance of the jump and how dificult it was to get back being so far away. One of the things that worried me before watching the episode is that the jump thing was going to be realloy lame if they've been going as far away as possible only to be able to make it back to caprica instantly on a whime. At least we finally see what happened to the cylon heavy raider they stole to escape Caprica.
Oh, and man they really beat the crap out of Cally. I thought she was dead. The poor girl is the shows punching bag. She's been nearly raped, shot, imprisoned and now beaten to within an inch of her life.
[B] Spoiler: Ok, now the one thing that REALLY bugged me was Sharon relapsing into Data mode. Was it really necessary to ruin the episode in the same way as Flight of the Phoenix with that stupid fiberoptic cable in the arm thing?
Oh, and man they really beat the crap out of Cally. I thought she was dead. The poor girl is the shows punching bag. She's been nearly raped, shot, imprisoned and now beaten to within an inch of her life. [/B][/QUOTE]
I think she likes it. :D
Spoiler: I mean, with all those loose ends it's going to be a hell of a season finale. The presidential election, the new planet, Caprica's rescue mission, Pegasus, not to mention all the problems of the main cast. Adama and Tigh seem to have taken the backseat. Quite frankly with all this excitement on all those fronts, they completely forgot about the Cylons. Not sure where the third season is headed and if there is any point using the original show for guidance, but isn't Baltar supposed to break away from the fleet at some point? It's possible that the outcome of the election will trigger events in that direction, but I doubt he'll be spending the rest of his life down on that new planet. So many things to consider and only 90 minutes left for this season. :eek:
I have a feeling the final episode will go like this:
1. The rescue will succeed but with obvious loses
2. Baltar wins the election, Roslin finds it hard to take
3. With the election result the fleet splits between those wanting to settle on the planet and those wanting to follow Roslin to Earth.
4. Pegasus stays to guard the new planet with Galactica taking the rest of the fleet onwards to Earth, with Roslin leading that part of the fleet.
My 2 cents anyway. Logically it doesn't make sense to split resources and defence like that but I feel the election will devide the fleet quite badly, between those supporters of Baltar's scientific/logical view (well aparent logical view) to Roslins more spiritual view.
I was kinda surprised at the Chiefs story. Didn't expect him to go nuts like that. Sure they all have been through hell but he's had a raw deal too. And his scenes with Stockwell were intriging. Stockwell's character seemed to know exactly what to ask the Chief and really did stick to the Cylon thread. But then I suppose if you look at the Chief's history, with Boomer and the general paranoia, it would be hard for people not to fear they are sleeper Cylons.[/Spoiler]
[B][Spoiler]4. Pegasus stays to guard the new planet with Galactica taking the rest of the fleet onwards to Earth, with Roslin leading that part of the fleet.[/Spoiler] [/B][/QUOTE]
Spoiler: If that does happen, it'll be a temporary affair, as Moore said on the Podcast a couple of weeks ago that Lee's command of the Pegasus will be rather important come season 3.
The planet might be a gift from the (two hero's of the cylon).
Notice Six's emphasis on "Having Faith"... rather interesting forshadow there.
Let's not forget that at the end of this ep, they are caught in a surrounding hail of fire yet no-one seems to be getting hit, rather just caged, so it seems their position was known, and maybe a prelude to rooting out the resistance from Caprica.
What happens when Breeder Boomer meets Cylon Hero Boomer? That should be interesting...
Also, Baltar is eventually going to break away from the fleet somehow if the old series is any indication. How that happens in this series will undoubtably be much more interesting... :)
We already know that Roslin will call Baltar on his cylon connection, or at least claim that he is working with them.
I can't wait for the finale... 90 minutes long! :)
[B]AHHHHHH!!!!! SPOILER!!!! you misspelled 'spoiler'!!!! THE TAGS AREN'T Working!!! [/B][/QUOTE]
Fixed! Ooops! or was it an ooops?! Maybe I did it on purpose cuz I'm just e il like that :P
[B] Spoiler: I have to say I had thought about the planet being conveniently handed to Racetrack via Boomer (either knowingly or unknowingly), but then I thought about why would she sned one of the raptors into a mountain... (is that really any of her doing, or is it just sheer misfortune warping into an atmosphere like that).
The planet might be a gift from the (two hero's of the cylon).
Notice Six's emphasis on "Having Faith"... rather interesting forshadow there.
Let's not forget that at the end of this ep, they are caught in a surrounding hail of fire yet no-one seems to be getting hit, rather just caged, so it seems their position was known, and maybe a prelude to rooting out the resistance from Caprica.
What happens when Breeder Boomer meets Cylon Hero Boomer? That should be interesting...
Also, Baltar is eventually going to break away from the fleet somehow if the old series is any indication. How that happens in this series will undoubtably be much more interesting... :)
We already know that Roslin will call Baltar on his cylon connection, or at least claim that he is working with them.
[/B][/QUOTE]
Spoiler: The jumping into the mountain was a simple accident. They were jumping very close to the surface. owever placing a raptor accidentally and randomly close withing maybe a few thousand clicks of a hard to detect habitable world is just too unlikely.
Baltars final disclosure as a colaborater I think will play out very well. Its always really been a matter of time before he's figured out. It looks obvious from the previews that Baltar will be elected president and Roslin will try to steal the election by outing him. This will probably play out in Baltars favor. It will look like nothing more than a hopeless and baseless accusation by Roslin to get back in power. Baltar will just be able to shrugg it off and worst of all, he will then be the one in power. He's not going anywhere.
[B]I'd stop looking to the original series for guidance. They've already said they're done with drawing plot lines from it, and sending Baltar fleeing is a bit too dull and predictable. [/B][/QUOTE]
Spoiler: Well I didn't really mean that Baltar would be sent fleeing... Just that he wouldn't be necessarily ship bound from this point on. It is clear that he will be taking on a more proactive role, instead of reacting to every situation from now on...
;)
And I realize that the original series is not a good guide book, but I do think that it is his time to get out from under the Roslin foot and spread his wings a bit.
[B] Spoiler: Jumping into a mountain, how horrible!
I can't wait for the finale... 90 minutes long! :) [/B][/QUOTE]
Spoiler: 90 minutes of jumping into a mountain???
Ouch!
That's one way to make the audience feel the pain... :D
[B] Spoiler: The jumping into the mountain was a simple accident. They were jumping very close to the surface. owever placing a raptor accidentally and randomly close withing maybe a few thousand clicks of a hard to detect habitable world is just too unlikely. [/B][/QUOTE]
Spoiler: Actually, I listened to Ron Moore's Podcast along with the encore episode last night, and he said outright that misjumping to the planet was out-and-out a complete, total accident.