Spoiler: Well, I view that final conflict scene as beyond OK. Cain represented everything bad that happenrd to Gina, so her verbal defiance prior to her killing Cain seemed very appropriate.
The uniform thing? Oh come on :) B5's dress blued looked pretty off too :)
The scene that seemed off to me though, was Adama kissing Roselin. That seemed touching, but horribly inapropriate.
Or maybe I'll feel different after 8 hours of sleep :)
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Arethusa [/i]
[B]That game honestly looks like it could not hope to do justice to gritty reality of the show. Guess I'll have to hope for a mod to.. something. Only, there aren't any space sims anymore, let alone realistic ones. [/B][/QUOTE]
Actually there's a BSG mod in the works and it's looking great so far.
You can check it out here: [URL=http://www.game-warden.com/bsg/]http://www.game-warden.com/bsg/[/URL]
Also check out their forum to get the teaser trailer.
Spoiler: Six not even letting Cain finish her defiant bullshit has a lot more force and rage to it than a cheap cliche that feels more at home in Die Hard Six: Die Harderer. Ten seconds of uncut camera work after that can speak far more eloquently than that crap.
And, yeah, B5 had pretty bad uniforms, but, honestly, the standards were lower then, and it's particularly bad in a show that is otherwise very gritty and very realistic. I can only assume that they were following some crap in the original series, because the scene really would have been better if they had just stuck to the duty uniforms, which are at least ok. Or stop buying Gaius $4000 bespoke suits and drop some cash where it's needed. I don't mind worn uniforms as the series goes on, but at least make them look like they looked good at one point, long ago.
And, yeah, I agree the kiss felt inappropriate, but the whole scene felt to me like they edited together the wrong takes and made a potentially excellent scene feel off the whole way through. Not detrimental, but definitely not right.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Stingray [/i]
[B]Actually there's a BSG mod in the works and it's looking great so far.
You can check it out here: [URL=http://www.game-warden.com/bsg/]http://www.game-warden.com/bsg/[/URL] [/B][/QUOTE]
I've seen it. No realistic physics makes me cry.
Independence War 2, though that rather dead, in terms of community. There is exactly one big mod for it, and they wanted to stay in the same universe, so not much is really new.
At least until Elite IV comes out, which is supposedly in development, but Braben's been saying this for years.
Here's a recent [URL=http://www.computerandvideogames.com/r/?page=http://www.computerandvideogames.com/news/news_story.php(que)id=132379]interview with DAVID BRABEN.[/URL]
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Stingray [/i]
[B] Spoiler: Well, I looked at the preview again and I suppose Gina could hold a grudge against Adm. Cain because of the torture she had to endure and Gaius may be the means for her getting out of the her cell and getting a gun.
[/B][/QUOTE]
Spoiler: The Adama/Roslin kiss was actually not scripted. Olmos just thought it felt appropriate in the moment. You can tell in his face right afterwards his kind of laughing because no one expected that.
I like how they cut straigt midway into the battle scenes. I was expecting something like Hand of God where you would see the whole attack from the very start. The Battlestar vs Basestar barrage was spectacularly AWESOME.
Agree-- effects-wise, that was some of the best work I've ever seen. Period. I'd say to those people thinking that the "shakey-cam" documentary style can't work in SciFi: "this proves you wrong."
ShadowDancerWhen I say, "Why aye, gadgie," in my heart I say, "Och aye, laddie."London, UK
[i]That[/i] was a bloody good episode. Thourghly enjoyed it. I had an incling that Adama or Cain would pull back at the last minute, but I didnt expect both to do so.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Rick [/i]
[B]I totally disagree---that guy they killed got what he had coming. Whether or not she was a "machine", the acts he did were atrocious because he did them, not neccessarily because of who he did them to.
There was a very poignant line by the Pegasus XO.."you can't rape a machine."
Or can you? Can't that act have the same effect on the witnesses to the act that it would if the act was real?
You don't need to dehumanize a real person to lose your humanity.
Cain was wrong. period. [/B][/QUOTE]
Yes he did have it coming, no argument there. But that is no excuse. They have to be held accountable for thier actions, the MURDERED a Colonial officer. Again I'm not condoning what happed to Gina but a man did die here lets not forget that.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Ricobirch [/i]
[B]Yes he did have it coming, no argument there. But that is no excuse. They have to be held accountable for thier actions, the MURDERED a Colonial officer. Again I'm not condoning what happed to Gina but a man did die here lets not forget that. [/B][/QUOTE]
Murder implies a deliberate, pre-planned act.
I don't see what they did as murder...the Chief certainly didn't "Aim" the guy's head at the bolt on the wall. Best case - aggrivated assault, worst case - involuntary Manslaughter.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Rick [/i]
[B]Murder implies a deliberate, pre-planned act.[/B][/QUOTE]
No, murder implies intent to kill along with the actual act of killing. Premeditiated intent would make it first degree. Killing him without intent would make it manslaughter.
RubberEagleWhat's a rubber eagle used for, anyway?
stil, what tyrol and helo did was manslaughter, as they just shoved him away from boomer, and didn't deliberately pound his head against the bolt.
I was thinking about it...and I realise the experience of nearly being executed and the beatings they recieved would be punishment enough, it's not like they're going to forget that experience quickly.
Helo and Tyrol are not out of trouble yet. They have been transfered back to Galactica where they will likely recieve a real trial. They will be back in the brig very soon one way or another.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Arethusa [/i]
[B]I've seen it. No realistic physics makes me cry. [/B][/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, we with the Battlestar Galactica: Beyond the Red Line project are at the mercy of the Source Code Project programmers as far as getting newtonian physics goes. They ARE working hard, implementing new features all the time.
I know for a fact that we have someone working to implement RCS thrusters into the flight model, which would bring it closer to the series, so long as the AI can handle it.
Needless to say, I am working hard on a story that fits snuggly into RDM's universe and should be--if the mission editors and voice actors can give it their best (which I know they will)--quite an experience for the player.
Anyway, that's my two bits. [URL]http://www.game-warden.com/forum[/URL] under Battlestar Galactica is where you'll find us! We're actively seeking voice actors and sound editors, and we're ALWAYS seeking modellers/texturers, and so forth!!
BTW, our mod was recently featured along with a couple others in the UK PC Gamer!! Unfortunately, TBP was overlooked...no idea why, they guy must've just missed it in his research (though lord knows how....maybe it's another WB conspiracy;-)
Regards,
Chris "Dukeman42"
Writer/Casting Director
BSG: Beyond the Red Line
a FS2_Open total conversion
The one thing bugging me about the Resurrection Ship..
Spoiler: There could be a distinct possibility for the battlestars to scour the debris for deceased/"unactivated" humanocylons that they do not yet know of, however they did no such thing! Clearly, the battlestar pair demolished the opposition in what was a prime example of excellent planning and execution. It seems that the ship would probably stockpile unactivated humanocylons and turn them on as needed with the proper personalities, so this could be a good chance! However, I was not exactly watching the episode too closely, so there may be a distinct reason this was not done...
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The uniform thing? Oh come on :) B5's dress blued looked pretty off too :)
The scene that seemed off to me though, was Adama kissing Roselin. That seemed touching, but horribly inapropriate.
Or maybe I'll feel different after 8 hours of sleep :)
-R.
[B]That game honestly looks like it could not hope to do justice to gritty reality of the show. Guess I'll have to hope for a mod to.. something. Only, there aren't any space sims anymore, let alone realistic ones. [/B][/QUOTE]
Actually there's a BSG mod in the works and it's looking great so far.
You can check it out here: [URL=http://www.game-warden.com/bsg/]http://www.game-warden.com/bsg/[/URL]
Also check out their forum to get the teaser trailer.
And, yeah, B5 had pretty bad uniforms, but, honestly, the standards were lower then, and it's particularly bad in a show that is otherwise very gritty and very realistic. I can only assume that they were following some crap in the original series, because the scene really would have been better if they had just stuck to the duty uniforms, which are at least ok. Or stop buying Gaius $4000 bespoke suits and drop some cash where it's needed. I don't mind worn uniforms as the series goes on, but at least make them look like they looked good at one point, long ago.
And, yeah, I agree the kiss felt inappropriate, but the whole scene felt to me like they edited together the wrong takes and made a potentially excellent scene feel off the whole way through. Not detrimental, but definitely not right.
[B]Actually there's a BSG mod in the works and it's looking great so far.
You can check it out here: [URL=http://www.game-warden.com/bsg/]http://www.game-warden.com/bsg/[/URL] [/B][/QUOTE]
I've seen it. No realistic physics makes me cry.
[B]I've seen it. No realistic physics makes me cry. [/B][/QUOTE]
What modern space shooter features realistic physics that people can make a mod with?
At least until Elite IV comes out, which is supposedly in development, but Braben's been saying this for years.
Here's a recent [URL=http://www.computerandvideogames.com/r/?page=http://www.computerandvideogames.com/news/news_story.php(que)id=132379]interview with DAVID BRABEN.[/URL]
For what it's worth.
[B] Spoiler: Well, I looked at the preview again and I suppose Gina could hold a grudge against Adm. Cain because of the torture she had to endure and Gaius may be the means for her getting out of the her cell and getting a gun.
[/B][/QUOTE]
Well, I did have all bases covered, didn't I? :D
[B]turns out she didnt have too, good call by the way. [/B][/QUOTE]
Heee cheers :) had an idea it would play out that way.
Ace episode btw!!!!
[B]Homeworld was probably the best recent Space Sim. Not 1st person, but incredibly cinematic. [/B][/QUOTE]
Well..Independence War 2 was the best real space sim, Homeworld the best "non-real".
I like how they cut straigt midway into the battle scenes. I was expecting something like Hand of God where you would see the whole attack from the very start. The Battlestar vs Basestar barrage was spectacularly AWESOME.
-R.
[B]Not unless Gina has "Man-Hands".... [/B][/QUOTE]
So the bottom line is, you think that Gina has "man-hands?" :D
She doesn't look very manly to me. She has athletic hands perhaps, but she doesn't have hairy knuckles. ;)
[B]So the bottom line is, you think that Gina has "man-hands?" :D
She doesn't look very manly to me. She has athletic hands perhaps, but she doesn't have hairy knuckles. ;) [/B][/QUOTE]
Her hands were very dirty and bloody...threw me off :)
-r.
[B]Her hands were very dirty and bloody...threw me off :)
-r. [/B][/QUOTE]
Yeah, I mean it certainly doesn't look like there was any TP in that cell so you don't know where those hands have been :eek:
On another note. I just read that Lucy "Xena" Lawless will be in 10 season 3 episodes. How many Galactica documentaries do they need?
Worf
[B]On the subject of games...
Vivendi! Barf! Now I know what happened to the ITF codebase... frackers!
[url]http://battlestar.ugo.com/games/battlestar_galactica_game/[/url]
[/B][/QUOTE]
The game is actually based on the Starlancer engine...
[B]I totally disagree---that guy they killed got what he had coming. Whether or not she was a "machine", the acts he did were atrocious because he did them, not neccessarily because of who he did them to.
There was a very poignant line by the Pegasus XO.."you can't rape a machine."
Or can you? Can't that act have the same effect on the witnesses to the act that it would if the act was real?
You don't need to dehumanize a real person to lose your humanity.
Cain was wrong. period. [/B][/QUOTE]
Yes he did have it coming, no argument there. But that is no excuse. They have to be held accountable for thier actions, the MURDERED a Colonial officer. Again I'm not condoning what happed to Gina but a man did die here lets not forget that.
[B]Yes he did have it coming, no argument there. But that is no excuse. They have to be held accountable for thier actions, the MURDERED a Colonial officer. Again I'm not condoning what happed to Gina but a man did die here lets not forget that. [/B][/QUOTE]
Murder implies a deliberate, pre-planned act.
I don't see what they did as murder...the Chief certainly didn't "Aim" the guy's head at the bolt on the wall. Best case - aggrivated assault, worst case - involuntary Manslaughter.
-R.
I watch too much SVU
-R.
[B]Murder implies a deliberate, pre-planned act.[/B][/QUOTE]
No, murder implies intent to kill along with the actual act of killing. Premeditiated intent would make it first degree. Killing him without intent would make it manslaughter.
Worf
[B]I've seen it. No realistic physics makes me cry. [/B][/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, we with the Battlestar Galactica: Beyond the Red Line project are at the mercy of the Source Code Project programmers as far as getting newtonian physics goes. They ARE working hard, implementing new features all the time.
I know for a fact that we have someone working to implement RCS thrusters into the flight model, which would bring it closer to the series, so long as the AI can handle it.
Needless to say, I am working hard on a story that fits snuggly into RDM's universe and should be--if the mission editors and voice actors can give it their best (which I know they will)--quite an experience for the player.
Anyway, that's my two bits. [URL]http://www.game-warden.com/forum[/URL] under Battlestar Galactica is where you'll find us! We're actively seeking voice actors and sound editors, and we're ALWAYS seeking modellers/texturers, and so forth!!
BTW, our mod was recently featured along with a couple others in the UK PC Gamer!! Unfortunately, TBP was overlooked...no idea why, they guy must've just missed it in his research (though lord knows how....maybe it's another WB conspiracy;-)
Regards,
Chris "Dukeman42"
Writer/Casting Director
BSG: Beyond the Red Line
a FS2_Open total conversion
Spoiler: There could be a distinct possibility for the battlestars to scour the debris for deceased/"unactivated" humanocylons that they do not yet know of, however they did no such thing! Clearly, the battlestar pair demolished the opposition in what was a prime example of excellent planning and execution. It seems that the ship would probably stockpile unactivated humanocylons and turn them on as needed with the proper personalities, so this could be a good chance! However, I was not exactly watching the episode too closely, so there may be a distinct reason this was not done...