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Wikipedia mistaken for Uncyclopedia: Many lives lost

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You've probably heard about the fellow who's pursuing a crusade against Wikipedia after a biography of him containing false information appeared. Now, a friend of his has confessed to putting it up, thinking that it was a joke site, and that since anyone could put anything on it, it would follow that no one would do it in good faith.

Whoops.

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  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    "He was very apologetic; he said it was a practical joke," Seigenthaler said yesterday. "Of course I accept the apology, but it doesn't lessen my frustration that anybody can put anything on Wikipedia."

    Which is sort of the point of wikipedia. It's a community maintained encyclopedia which is, theoretically, supposed to be reviewed by its readr base, with each individual having some unique knowlege which may be capable of being applied to its sum.
  • That's what Harlan Ellison was talking about when I saw him at Foolscap this year. He said that some of his friends showed him the entry on him, and he said it was like reading about someone else, so they (including Harlan himself) wrote a correct one, and a few days later, someone had replaced it (the one they've got up now seems to be alright though). That's one of the reasons he says that the internet is useless for research.
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DarthCaligula [/i]
    [B]That's what Harlan Ellison was talking about when I saw him at Foolscap this year. He said that some of his friends showed him the entry on him, and he said it was like reading about someone else, so they (including Harlan himself) wrote a correct one, and a few days later, someone had replaced it (the one they've got up now seems to be alright though). That's one of the reasons he says that the internet is useless for research. [/B][/QUOTE]

    How'd we go from Wikipedia to Internet being useless?

    Research is the responsibility of the researcher documenting his/her sources...

    duh...
  • I'm not saying that the internet's useless, that was Harlan, but I do see his point. From what I understand, I could go to Wikipedia and rewrite anything I want, right? I could even be wrong about what I write, but think I am right, so then if someone looks there, they could find faulty information. Am I correct?
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    Yeah but Wikipedia isn't the sole research tool in the world or on the internet for that matter... I'm not even sure if it is sold to everyone as a research tool anyway...

    Once again a researcher has to be diligent in their craft, which includes following up on their leads and sources.

    ;)
  • Yeah, I totally agree, but you can sure find a lot of stuff on the internet that just isn't true, which is probably his point. I don't really trust information I find on the internet too much, it's too easy for anyone to just write anything on the internet, and there isn't any real way to filter it all, so I still say a real library is far better for research.
  • There are enough people unofficially moderating Wikipedia that it is generally a relatively unbiased source of information.
  • David of MacDavid of Mac Elite Ranger Ca
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DarthCaligula [/i]
    [B]That's what Harlan Ellison was talking about when I saw him at Foolscap this year. He said that some of his friends showed him the entry on him, and he said it was like reading about someone else, so they (including Harlan himself) wrote a correct one, and a few days later, someone had replaced it (the one they've got up now seems to be alright though). That's one of the reasons he says that the internet is useless for research. [/B][/QUOTE]

    You know, looking at the versions of the article from around that time, it seems his bio is more of an expanded bibliography. Also, considering how, um, batshit psycho he can get when things are stolen off his website, it seems appropos that the stated reason that his version of the biography was removed was that [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Harlan_Ellison&diff=7658527&oldid=7656409]it appeared some idiot had just replaced the whole article with a bio stolen off Ellison's webspace.[/url] (Ellison's is on the left, and the version it replaced that was put back up again afterward is on the right.)

    Now, I'm not terribly familiar with this issue, so I could be misinterpreting everything, and will gladly accept correction by someone more knowledgeable.

    [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Harlan_Ellison&dir=prev&offset=20040802154226&action=history](This appears to be all of the edits from the time around Ellison's edit)[/url]
  • FreejackFreejack Jake the Not-so-Wise
    I've found Wiki to be pretty good for more obscure peices of information, and when presented correctly, can be used as support for papers, etc.

    I found a reference to Crystal Pepsi I had been looking for as an example in a Marketing paper I was writing.

    Jake
  • ArethusaArethusa Universal Cathode
    Wiki should not be used as a reference source for any serious research— and neither should [i]any[/i] encyclopedia. Encyclopedias are for brief primers on subjects that you use to direct further research. I would not trust any encylopedia. Does not matter if it is Brittanica, Encarta, or Wiki.
  • Re: Wikipedia mistaken for Uncyclopedia: Many lives lost

    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by David of Mac [/i]
    [B]You've probably heard about the fellow who's pursuing a crusade against Wikipedia after a biography of him containing false information appeared. [/B][/QUOTE]

    Yay! Scapgoat!

    Seriously, I love Wikipedia, but as Arethusa said, it shouldn't be your sole source of information. For example, all of my research for university is conducted through specific texts on the particular subject I'm investigating. However, if you want a brief/skeleton outline of a topic, Wiki's great. :)
  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    There is one truly wonderful use for wikipedia...

    Finding information or starting research on a project which is so new and/or dynamic that no published encyclopedia will cover it (either adequately or at all). example: My coursework in nanotechnologies over the past few years has shown that there are (or were) few to no published references for almost any given portion of new nanotech developments. And of course, anything that was published even recently may be horribly out of date and/or innacurate. What happened was that wikipedia developed a small community of nanotechnologists who maintained a relatively high quality set of articles on the subject (given the available information at the time)
  • ArethusaArethusa Universal Cathode
    Yeah, good point. The medium does allow wikipedia to be useful for things beyond the traditional (and proper) use of an encyclopedia. But those instances are, at least for now, rather rare.
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