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I got my xbox360!!

C_MonC_Mon A Genuine Sucker
Yeah, I got it today, but guess who's leaving now to go back to the army. Well, it'd be great if I could get home next weekend, but no! I'm stuck there for 3 or maybe 4 weeks. Well, take care ya all!

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  • [IMG]http://strvang.ath.cx/~andi/temp/images/11-30-2005.png[/IMG]

    :cool:
  • SpiritOneSpiritOne Magneto ABQ NM
    The only thing wrong with that picture is he is sitting on it. It gets too hot to sit on...
  • MessiahMessiah Failed Experiment
    There ya go. Let us know how awesomeifyingly glorious it is later then.
  • SpiritOneSpiritOne Magneto ABQ NM
    well, I had mine on launch day (no I didnt stand at the store for 26 hours, I preordered mine and picked it up at my convenience), it looks good. I have a small collection of games for it already including Madden '06, Tiger Woods '06, Gun and Condemned Criminal Origins.

    Graphically its pretty solid, when you watch an instant replay of your QB getting sacked, his facial expression changes and you can see the pain in his face. You can even zoom in close enough to read the writing on the ball.

    But graphics arent everything, without gameplay it could be nothing but a pretty face. All the games I have are very good. They took what was stupid about Madden '05 and got rid of it, Madden '06 is more about the game than it is the fanfare. Tiger Woods is no where near as easy. Suffice it to say in Tiger '05 you start on the pro tour and with a good week or two of constant playing you could win every tournament and get multiple sponsors, making millions of dollars, and essentially beat the game. Tiger '06 isnt like that, you dont start on the Tour, you have to work your way onto it by completing little competitions for each pro course. Then you have to be in the top10 (i think) in an amateur tournament. Ive had the game since launch day and I only just made the tournament, my first pro tour stop I did not win, in fact I had a very difficult time just getting the place I did, 12th.

    Gun is an incredible game whos only complaint I can come up with is its way too short. I beat the game already, and If I knew how to play Texas Holdum, I would have it at 100% complete. (yes I know the irony of now living in Texas and not knowing how to play Texas Holdum).

    Condemned Criminal Origins is one of the play with the lights on kind of games. Its creepy, you are an FBI CSI agent who works particularly violent crimes, in fact you kind of have a 6th sense about these things, but right now your framed for the murder of two police officers, they were shot with your gun. Your trying to put the pieces of a very large puzzle together.

    Its all quite interesting. I am considering getting Dead or Alive 4, its been so long since Ive had a good fighting game, and Project Gothan Racing, since my Midnight Club 3 isnt compatable with the new xbox, I need a good racer.

    That about sums up my view on console game, great for sports, racing and fighting games, you know the kind of games you like to play against your friends. On occasion you get a good story game too.
  • Lord RefaLord Refa Creepy, but in a good way
    I will get mine on wednesday.. but selling it cuz no need for it before DOA4.

    And I know where I could get one premium pack for 350 euros...


    From my work. They had one misplaced, and found it after they had put that there is no supply and have to wait till they can sell.. So I could buy it now if I wanted.. heh.. and the fuckers would have to wait for the next shipment. :D
  • ShadowDancerShadowDancer When I say, "Why aye, gadgie," in my heart I say, "Och aye, laddie." London, UK
    "misplaced" eh? did it have any help wandering off?;)
  • Data CrystalData Crystal Pencil Artist
    I'm in no hurry. I'll wait at least until Revolution comes out. By then, the new Xbox's technical problems are probably going to be solved as well.

    Personally, I just can't understand people who want a console right after it's put out on to the market. It's the same thing with modern consoles as it is with PC-games: Release dates matter. And if you just happen to ship a batch with a faulty power adapter or a cd-base that scrathes your discs, you can replace it later on with a working model.

    I mean: Come on! I can just and just understand that in a PC game, but not on a friggin' console. :p

    XBox might be taking the Windows approach to consoles worldwide: Wait approximately one year after it's launched to have a good, working product. :D
  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    from slashdot

    [quote]"Reuters is reporting that a Chicago man who was lucky enough to purchase an Xbox 360 has filed suit against Microsoft over the overheating and crashing some users have experienced. The man is seeking unspecified damages, litigation expenses, and replacement or recall of all Xbox 360s. While more suits or a class-action is probably on the way, others have sought less litigious solutions."[/quote]
  • SpiritOneSpiritOne Magneto ABQ NM
    have microsofts lawyers tell his lawyers...

    "RTFM Bitch, the manual tells you it needs room to breath"
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Firstly, let me say that suing MS over this is a stupid idea. The problem is not that widespread and it's not just MS who has problems with new hardware.

    However, MS's design of the console is not perfect. The power brick has not been designed with anything other than large entertainment centres with big shelves that have the necessary room for cooling in mind. A console is not always going to operate in that sort of environment. The console is going to be on the carpet (blocking the bottom vent holes). It's going to end up in the kids' bedroom. The power brick is going to get covered in junk, because it's the sort of thing you put in the corner and forget about while you have the console sitting out where it can look flash.

    Having an external power supply with such a large heat output is not a good move for something like a console. I suspect that Sony is going to make a similar mistake with the PS3 in order to keep the size of their console down.
  • thats a major fuck up...What sort of cooling system are they using anyway? Just a basic fan? Who even manufactures the consoles?
  • SpiritOneSpiritOne Magneto ABQ NM
    The processors themselves are cooled using an advanced heat sink with heat pipe technology to pull the heat off of the processor. There are 2 fans that blow warm air out of the back. From what I can tell, the fans are on a thermostat to make them spin faster if needed. If you keep you 360 in a place that it can vent heat out the back, you are ok. If you do what I did when I first got it, and stick it in an enclosed cabinet in your entertainment center, its not going to have clean airflow and it will heat up to near fatal levels and shut itself off.

    Its not a design flaw, nor is it spotty workmanship. A more advanced liquid cooling system would have required a much bigger formfactor, and present a whole slew of other problems, especially with a system that can either stand up or be laid flat. Treat it like you would any high powered PC, and you will be allright, stick in a hole in your entertainment center and expect it not to overheat, and your asking for trouble.
  • I haven't even seen one on display is it worth the cash though?
  • WORFWORF The Burninator
    I saw one on display today. I don't know what the game (it was a fps, it didn't really grab me) was but I wasn't that impressed.

    The sound was off, which is fair enough considering it was on display in a shop, but the graphics...well they didn't look any better than what I've seen PC games produce. I know graphics don't make a good game but still.

    *Sits back and waits to see what Nintendo does with the Revolution*

    Worf
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by SpiritOne [/i]
    [B]Its not a design flaw, nor is it spotty workmanship. A more advanced liquid cooling system would have required a much bigger formfactor, and present a whole slew of other problems, especially with a system that can either stand up or be laid flat. Treat it like you would any high powered PC, and you will be allright, stick in a hole in your entertainment center and expect it not to overheat, and your asking for trouble. [/B][/QUOTE]

    And that is exactly why is is a design flaw. It isn't a high end PC, it's a game console. The average consumer will want to use it like any other console. MS did not take that into consideration when designing the power brick, in my opinion. The use of heatpipes and thermally controlled fans and heat zones is great and exactly what needed to be done. The problem is the power brick will be dumped in an enclosed space with little passive air flow by the average consumer.

    As for water cooling, that's also not suitable. Far too complex for a piece of consumer electronics.
  • SpiritOneSpiritOne Magneto ABQ NM
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by The Cabl3 Guy [/i]
    [B]I haven't even seen one on display is it worth the cash though? [/B][/QUOTE]

    That all depends on what you want to use it for...

    If you just want to play games, dont have a high def television and dont have any sort of network in your house, its a waste of your money.

    90% of the games being released on the 360 will be released for the PS2 and the original Xbox as well. So game choice should be a major consideration.

    The 360's strength is in its High Definition form factor. I have a nice 33" widescreen display Im hooked up in high def, and I make use of the optical digital out, so it looks and sounds great in my living room. Technically, its a better dvd player than the set-top one I had, so I moved my old dvd player to my bedroom, and the 360 does what it used to there.

    Finally one of the things I like about the new 360 is what it can do through networking. Lets face it, not everyone you know and bring over to your house is going to say "Wow a 360 lets play the new halo". So its just a useless brick right? Nope, link it to your PC and play music and show pics streamed off your PC. That is actually, pretty damned nice. Set up some playlists and your set.

    For example, most of our family lives far away, so when they visit its usually for something special. My wife is a digital shutterbug and blew through about 600MB of 5megapixel pictures on our trip to Disney last March. She has some of the scrapbooked, but the rest are on the computer. Had some family here tonight, put up some music and pics on the xbox, and everyone can sit in the living room and look at digital pics on the 33" tv instead of my monitor crowded into the office.

    Now, someone out there is saying its all part of microborgs plot to bring your entire home under their control, and they are probably right, but it does its job pretty damned well. My uncle and his family though it was pretty neat to be able to do that on the fly. And hes usually one of those guys shaking his head at the new games or consoles.


    Before anyone asks, I have no idea if the PS3 or Nintendo revalution will do the same thing. But lets face it, those of us who are really into gaming, we usually have more than one console, dont we, its not so much competition, as it is which system do I want to play this new game on. I will probably get a PS3, and it will probably be just to play GT5, unless by some miracle microsoft comes out with something that makes me forget about the GT series. A nintendo rev is also probably in our future somewhere, one thing you can count on from Nintendo is more kid friendly games, and when you have a 7 and 5 year old, even having Gun and Condmned on your shelf is brave, especially when mixed in with animal crossing, dora the explorer and scooby doo.
  • SpiritOneSpiritOne Magneto ABQ NM
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Biggles [/i]
    [B]And that is exactly why is is a design flaw. It isn't a high end PC, it's a game console. [/B][/QUOTE]

    have you looked under the hood? Id say pretty high end. PS3 will probably be the same way.
  • Entil'ZhaEntil'Zha I see famous people
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by SpiritOne [/i]
    [B]have you looked under the hood? Id say pretty high end. PS3 will probably be the same way. [/B][/QUOTE]


    I think i want one, i have owned a grand total of 4 console game systems in my life, an Atari 2600, an Intelevision, an original Nintendo and an original Playstation (actually it was my daughters) i think it may be time to give the console market another try.
  • Lord RefaLord Refa Creepy, but in a good way
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Entil'Zha [/i]
    [B]I think i want one, i have owned a grand total of 4 console game systems in my life, an Atari 2600, an Intelevision, an original Nintendo and an original Playstation (actually it was my daughters) i think it may be time to give the console market another try. [/B][/QUOTE]

    Then you should wait for Nintendo Revolution. ;)
  • ShadowDancerShadowDancer When I say, "Why aye, gadgie," in my heart I say, "Och aye, laddie." London, UK
    never owned a games console and probably will, for 1 very good reason: i cant stand control pads, whatever the make.
  • Last console I bought was Dreamcast...And I almost regret that.
  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    How can you even possibly regret a dreamcast? How?! It's one of the best consoles of all time. It has so many wonderful games. SO MANY! And such a strong fan following and nearly no-cost aftermarket.
  • MessiahMessiah Failed Experiment
    Indeed. Soul Calibur was for the Dreamcast..
  • I guess Im a late bloomer when it came to Dreamcast...I had maybe 4 games most of which were Marvel VS Capcom types & of course CRAZY TAXI...CAUSE ITS SO CRAZY~

    I really didn't like what was available and well threw neglect it broke. :'/
  • Read the reviews of all the games on Xbox 360..

    This reviewer doesn't really get off playing it.

    [url]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,178280,00.html[/url]

    Maybe taking bribes from Sony or Nintendo?

    I am still debating to get one or save up for more PC upgrades. My last console was a Sega CD system and I got burnt on that.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by SpiritOne [/i]
    [B]have you looked under the hood? Id say pretty high end. PS3 will probably be the same way. [/B][/QUOTE]

    Yes, I'd be shirking my duty as a computer systems engineer and cpu architecture freak if I hadn't. :) But that's not my point. It doesn't matter what the insides are made of, it's the outside functionality that defines what it is, and that is a game console. The average consumer is going to treat it just like a game console.

    Don't get me wrong, I don't think that having lots of computation power or needing a decent airflow through the console is a design flaw, I just think the separate, passively cooled power brick is a design flaw. I expect that Sony will have similar problems with cooling and will probably make a similar mistake of having an external, passively cooled and very hot power brick.

    It all comes down to an issue that noone has solved yet: how to put high end, power- and heat-intensive equipment in the average home.
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Biggles [/i]
    [B]... I expect that Sony will have similar problems with cooling and will probably make a similar mistake of having an external, passively cooled and very hot power brick... [/B][/QUOTE]

    Is it just me, or do I remember a simialr issue with the C-64 power brick?

    :D
  • MessiahMessiah Failed Experiment
    Indeed. Though since we didnt have the 64 out all the time, the power brick in the middle of the floor, where it was pretty harmless.. ;)
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JackN [/i]
    [B]Is it just me, or do I remember a simialr issue with the C-64 power brick?

    :D [/B][/QUOTE]

    I never had a problem with mine, but the C64 [i]was[/i] a desktop computer, so it got set up like one. :) But yes, the C64 power brick was also poorly designed. It's simply a case of skimping on parts to make things cheaper to manufacturer, as the cooler, more advanced power electronics cost more.
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