Issues with your account? Bug us in the Discord!

is b5 dead?

is it just me or the whole franchise suddenly went belly up? i mean star wars hung in there by producing source books and novels for fans, why can't jms and crew do the same?

technomage trilogy was great, much better than any star wars novel i've read, so why can't we have at least some books to keep the place warm until the new series

and the showing of LOTR during superbowl was stupid, no show will generate high ranking when everyone is watching american football

anyways my 2 cents...and centauri still suck [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
«1

Comments

  • I'll agree with you in saying that the franchise is the main complaint with regards to the state of Babylon 5, at the present.

    The B5 universe still has a lot to offer - it's not like some of the more peripheral sci-fi creations which have written themselves into a blackhole, only to see the fanbase rapidly sucked away [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/frown.gif[/img]

    You've got to look elsewhere, then - and it's pretty obvious where it lies, as can be seen from the sheer market forces which killed off ItF; which called a halt to Crusade; and have left future B5 products hanging in the air...

    [i] - Warleader, you like Battletech? Board or computer? I'll give you a shout - always good to meet other fans [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img][/i]

    [This message has been edited by Mr_Bungle (edited 05-18-2002).]
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    The problem is that B5 has always been more of a niche attraction than a mainstream thing like Star Wars. Those sort of things are hard to keep going in the market-forces powered world.

    ------------------
    [b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
    Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • JohnDJohnD Ranger
    [quote]Originally posted by Warleader D'Ren:
    [b]is it just me or the whole franchise suddenly went belly up? i mean star wars hung in there by producing source books and novels for fans, why can't jms and crew do the same?[/b][/quote]

    You could always start buying AoG's B5 Wars books and game set. They have the Fleet Action 2 line due out soon, the GROPOS line and the Babylon 5 Wars line. That will keep you busy for a while [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
    [url="http://www.agentsofgaming.com/"]http://www.agentsofgaming.com/[/url]
  • whitestar90whitestar90 Elite Ranger
    Its kept alive with modders all over the world modding games like freespace, homeworld etc, its just a pity that big software companies havn't got onto it...

    ------------------
    "When it is time,come to this place,call our name,we will be here"-Walkers of Sigma957
    [url="http://ifh.firstones.com"]I've Found Her-Babylon 5 free game[/url]
  • EternityEternity Elite Ranger
    Just like me to drop in with a comment like this but B5 will never be dead while we remember it.
  • ZosoliasZosolias Earthforce Officer
    Babylon 5 was a dream given form.
    A dream of a novel told through the medium of television. JMS told the tale he wanted to tell. At one point, I believe he stated that he wasn't interested in spin-offs. He changed his mind on this, probably because he enjoyed playing in that universe.
    But the time for new B5 is pretty much over. Much like Star Trek, it will probably be in reruns forever. But I wouldn't expect anything new for some time.
    Now, down the road, B5 may rise phoenix-like from the ashes, much as Trek did. I hope so. But it needs to lie dormant for awhile. Besides, the great maker is playing in other universes now, and enjoying himself there.
    B5 was what it was meant to be, and much more. He told the tale he wanted and blew the station up so that others wouldn't be tempted to keep it going past the point where it interested him.
    B5 will always be with us.
    We take away the wonder and joy and the things it has taught us.
    We may go back now and then to visit familiar episodes like old friends, to be surprised anew.
    We will always have B5.
    We even still have the mods and the freeware stuff going on (IFH ROCKS!).
    But it's time to move on, B5 for the most part is over.
  • see its easy on you guys, you got re-runs on sci fi and entire series coming out on dvd soon

    i have neither dvd nor cable, and aside from my measily collection of tapes, all i got is 6 books to warm my heart

    just recently i quit battletech, my other long running favorite
  • I personally think you should come back to BT - there are loads of players in your area... many more than there are anywhere near me - check the CBT Commandoes section to see if anyone's throwing a game together [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]

    Besides, we need more Clanners, or they'll be nothing left for the Dragon to sharpen its claws on [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
  • actually i left because of all cheap shots nova cat cronies made towards me and my clan
  • bobobobo (A monkey)
    JMS stated several times at the beginning that he did [i]NOT[/i] want B5 to be a frachise. In fact, he inferred that that was one of the specific reasons he blew the station up at the end of the show.

    I agree with his opinion. B5 told a story: begining, middle, end. It was set in a well thought out universe, with histories both before and after the main story, but the story was complete in itself. Attempting to create a fanchise, in my opinion, only cheapens the original.

    For the same reason, I looked foward to Crusades, but not as much to B5:LOTR. JMS stated several times in rec.arts.scifi.tv.babylon5.moderated that he had he main story, and only one possible related story about the Rangers; there would be no other spin-offs. I guess Crusades and B5:LOTR could both be lumped under the second idea, but if he continued to push forth new ideas and stories, then he wouldn't be holding true to his original concept. Personnally, I think JMS has too much integrity for that.

    ------------------
    bobo
    <*>
    B5:ITF
  • Leaving would just strengthen their point, would it not?

    And it's not like the Cats haven't been enduring their share of grief, lately [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/tongue.gif[/img]

    As for the franchise issue - yeah, we got what we paid for, which was a universe and story far from the reaches of commercial orientation. But with them gone, we're stuck...
  • Language of HopeLanguage of Hope Elite Ranger
    B5 is not dead.

    No matter whether we get told other stories in the B5 universe, it will never be dead because it told a story which can never be interpreted to its end, in its entirety. It is just too complex and too important for us as human beings.

    One day, B5 might be dead, but it will only be the day when the last human (or alien capable of seeing, reading, or otherwise percepting this story) dies.

    ------------------
    We are one. No matter the blood, no matter the skin, no matter the world, no matter the star. .. We are one.
    No matter the pain, no matter the darkness, no matter the loss, no matter the fear. .. We are one.
    - Alliance Preamble to the Declaration of Principles, The Paragon of Animals
    Webmaster [url="http://www.Sprungtor.de"]www.Sprungtor.de[/url]
  • MundaneMundane Elite Ranger
    anyway...the memory of B5 will allways be with us, as true fans of the series...it will never be forgotten, too many good memories related to B5.
  • Rogue TraderRogue Trader Somebody stop him...
    we are the ultimate geeks. were considered a cult within a cult.
  • Vertigo1Vertigo1 Official Fuzzy Dice of FirstOnes.com
    B5 isn't going anywhere, mainly because of the fact that it has the most rabid fans...second to the warsies of course. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]

    ------------------
    [url="http://www.3dap.com/hlp"][b]Hard Light Productions[/b][/url] - [i]Our last best hope for Freespace[/i]

    "Isn't the universe a wonderful place? I wouldn't want to live anywhere else! Love to stay! Can't! Have to go. Kiss kiss, love love! Bye!" - G'Kar
  • WarleaderWarleader Inmate: Babylon Project Mental Health Facility
    WELL INCITE AN UPRISING IN ENEMY TERRITORY
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Enemy territory being what, Startrek.com? [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]

    ------------------
    [b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
    Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    You're HOME Warleader!
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Yep he is.
    Quick, get the straight jacket.

    ------------------
    [b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
    Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • Vertigo1Vertigo1 Official Fuzzy Dice of FirstOnes.com
    Enemy territory being Sierra. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]

    ------------------
    [url="http://www.3dap.com/hlp"][b]Hard Light Productions[/b][/url] - [i]Our last best hope for Freespace[/i]

    "Isn't the universe a wonderful place? I wouldn't want to live anywhere else! Love to stay! Can't! Have to go. Kiss kiss, love love! Bye!" - G'Kar
  • It's a good thing those ambulance gunships were on stand-by... it could have been very messy [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/tongue.gif[/img]
  • Vertigo1Vertigo1 Official Fuzzy Dice of FirstOnes.com
    Bah! Ol' Davey doesn't have anything that could take on this:

    [img]http://vertigo1-2.freeyellow.com/Dest_Fire_test.jpg[/img]

    [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img] (Yes, its mine.)

    ------------------
    [url="http://www.3dap.com/hlp"][b]Hard Light Productions[/b][/url] - [i]Our last best hope for Freespace[/i]

    "Isn't the universe a wonderful place? I wouldn't want to live anywhere else! Love to stay! Can't! Have to go. Kiss kiss, love love! Bye!" - G'Kar
  • EternityEternity Elite Ranger
    I do! A nice big ISA fleet could easily munch that. Lemme see a load of Whitestars and Hel'Zha's. A load of VCD's. A few Sheridan C&C Ships and a few Bismarck Assault carriers. NP for the ISA!

    Later!
  • Vertigo1Vertigo1 Official Fuzzy Dice of FirstOnes.com
    [quote]Originally posted by Eternity:
    [b]I do! A nice big ISA fleet could easily munch that. Lemme see a load of Whitestars and Hel'Zha's. A load of VCD's. A few Sheridan C&C Ships and a few Bismarck Assault carriers. NP for the ISA!

    Later![/b][/quote]

    hehe, get on ICQ. I'll show you why my baby isn't something you wanna **** with. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]

    ------------------
    [url="http://www.3dap.com/hlp"][b]Hard Light Productions[/b][/url] - [i]Our last best hope for Freespace[/i]

    "Isn't the universe a wonderful place? I wouldn't want to live anywhere else! Love to stay! Can't! Have to go. Kiss kiss, love love! Bye!" - G'Kar
  • yep its dead.

    but most for the bad franchise management of

    WB.

    1º giving the game building to Sierra (the games was the main way for star wars to stay in the market for years).

    and sierra making a SFS, and nothing more, with the posibility to make mods of half.life,tribes, homeworld , RPG....all that wasted.

    2º not making a movie of b5 universe.

    3º using actors poorly known...(some guest start from time to time....).

    4º bad management in airing of the shows.

    and i think some more things but....

    with star wars again on business.....

    with ST still running.........

    sad.......
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Yeah, who the hell is this Patrick Stewart guy? Or what about this Brent Spiner guy?
    I don't think using relatively unknown actors was a mistake. At least they can act, unlike many more famous actors.

    ------------------
    [b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
    Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • FreejackFreejack Jake the Not-so-Wise
    Brent Spiner: don't you remember, he was the country hick that showed up on Night Court from time to time...he's also had some bit parts in movies like Independence Day and Phenomenon...other than that I don't think he's done much at all. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]
  • Vertigo1Vertigo1 Official Fuzzy Dice of FirstOnes.com
    [quote]Originally posted by Freejack:
    [b]Brent Spiner: don't you remember, he was the country hick that showed up on Night Court from time to time...he's also had some bit parts in movies like Independence Day and Phenomenon...other than that I don't think he's done much at all. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img][/b][/quote]

    Don't forget Out to Sea. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]

    ------------------
    [url="http://www.3dap.com/hlp"][b]Hard Light Productions[/b][/url] - [i]Our last best hope for Freespace[/i]

    "Isn't the universe a wonderful place? I wouldn't want to live anywhere else! Love to stay! Can't! Have to go. Kiss kiss, love love! Bye!" - G'Kar
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [quote]Originally posted by Freejack:
    [b]Brent Spiner: don't you remember, he was the country hick that showed up on Night Court from time to time...he's also had some bit parts in movies like Independence Day and Phenomenon...other than that I don't think he's done much at all. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img][/b][/quote]


    You completely missed my point. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]

    ------------------
    [b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
    Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • KonradKonrad Ranger
    Unknown actors!!!

    Bruce Boxleitner...Lee Stetson (Scarecrow)
    from Scarecrow and Mrs King!!!
    It's kind of embarasing to admit but I loved that show... [url="http://www.smkfans.com/"]http://www.smkfans.com/[/url]


    Do I even need to comment about Claudia Christian... (tehehe) [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
Sign In or Register to comment.