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shadow boxer
The Finger Painter & Master Ranter
in Zocalo v2.0
*claps, ovates, just generally acclaims Mr Lucas*
well done bit of cinema
I have a massive creative boner, my imagination is fired like you wouldn't believe. To me thats probably the thing that delineates the difference between good and great Sci-fi. If I'm inspired to dream, to design, to make, to give form to my imagination, then its good sci-fi. I've become a jaded old bastard in some aspects of my life, it takes alot to get me fired up these days, but boy... am I ever fired up right now...:)
The ships and tech are top notch, the humungus epic grandeur and proportions are back, the pathos and power is there in spades.
Few nits to pick but really... when all is said and done, its tres primo Star Wars fare and high calibre Science Fiction.
Go see it.
Go see it, or never speak to me again..:)
well done bit of cinema
I have a massive creative boner, my imagination is fired like you wouldn't believe. To me thats probably the thing that delineates the difference between good and great Sci-fi. If I'm inspired to dream, to design, to make, to give form to my imagination, then its good sci-fi. I've become a jaded old bastard in some aspects of my life, it takes alot to get me fired up these days, but boy... am I ever fired up right now...:)
The ships and tech are top notch, the humungus epic grandeur and proportions are back, the pathos and power is there in spades.
Few nits to pick but really... when all is said and done, its tres primo Star Wars fare and high calibre Science Fiction.
Go see it.
Go see it, or never speak to me again..:)
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by shadow boxer [/i]
[B]*claps, ovates, just generally acclaims Mr Lucas*
well done bit of cinema
I have a massive creative boner... [/B][/QUOTE]
I was doing good until that visual came into my mind...
:p :D ;)
The kids disturbed me a lot. It was necessary to the plot, but still....
And SB...you just like it because you think there are parallels to be drawn between Palpatine and Bush.
All in all, it didn't feel larger than life like the rest of the films. It felt like things were just happening. If this were the new Battlestar Galactica, that would have been entirely called for, but it's not. It's Star Wars, and you walk in expecting the grandiose.
I did actually enjoy this move....but it's not a master piece. ;)
There were a few bits that i thought weren't done too well (like at the start when they board the cruiser, wtf was that all about with the gravity when it starts dropping out of the battle?!?)
I think that i can now forgive Lucas for Ep's 1 & 2 now (tho i am disappointed Jar Jar didnt get knocked off)
[B]...tho i am disappointed Jar Jar didnt get knocked off... [/B][/QUOTE]
When we saw him, I was hoping for a sniper.
For me it was better than the first two, but there were too many "eye rolling, cringe inducing" bits of dialog. Also, I want those damn battledroids to just shut the F*** up.
3.2 out of 5. I will see it again on Saturday and that may get better(i hope)
Dug
Seriously, when the Jedi-killing begins and Yoda sense it, and you see him in pain, GODDAMN that was some good "acting" by the little digital bugger, I just love him.
The fighting scene with Palpatine was also nice, when Yoda stepped into the room and waved off those two guards by the door I laughed my ass off, oh and when Palpatine is using the electrifying-darkside-thingy and you see Yoda almost angry, just before he launches it back at Palp, nice scene....
And I must say, cudos to Windu, was nice to see him kick ass (as you may have noticed I'm no hardcore fan so a lot of things that happened I had no idea about before, like Windu's skill with the Lightsaber)
One question, i may be dumb here, did yoda actually lose against palpatine? It looked more like a draw between the two....was a bit confused there.
/me starts counting down the days left to the Ep IV-VI-marathon he's having with some friends.
[B]I thought the gigundo space battle in the opening scene was horribly done. Here we have the biggest space battle in all Star Wars, and I was about to start snoring.
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You're kidding, right?
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And SB...you just like it because you think there are parallels to be drawn between Palpatine and Bush.
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Now cut that out! This story arc was planned out in the late 70s and early 80s. Palpatine was a reflection of Nixon and the Vietnam war, not shrub and Iraq. Going to call a boycott of the movie like the ridiculous fundie pundits?
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All in all, it didn't feel larger than life like the rest of the films. It felt like things were just happening. If this were the new Battlestar Galactica, that would have been entirely called for, but it's not. It's Star Wars, and you walk in expecting the grandiose. [/B][/QUOTE]
Wow, you must have been in the wrong theatre, or those meds must need to have the dosage lowered a bit.... ;-)
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One question, i may be dumb here, did yoda actually lose against palpatine? It looked more like a draw between the two....was a bit confused there.
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Well, Yoda didn't have legions of clone troopers coming to help him out. I'd call that battle inconclusive.
Was certainly interesting seeing Sidious with a lightsabre! Now I wonder if he had it up that sleeve in RotJ?
And boy, was there some fancy lightsabre tossing going on. :D Can't wait for it to hit the IMAX.
[B]Was certainly interesting seeing Sidious with a lightsabre! Now I wonder if he had it up that sleeve in RotJ? [/B][/QUOTE]
I've been wondering that ever since I got back from the theatre.
the though that he could've kicked both Vader's and Luke's ass anytime he wanted to....
As for the movie itself, I got a real kick out of the collective "OH SHITS!" in the theatre when Grievous did his little arm trick.
[B]You're kidding, right?
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No. Not counting fighters, there were at most two ships at a time on screen shooting. The rest just sat there and tried to look menacing. Not to mention the fact that we have this gigantic battle with hundreds to thousands of ships supposedly getting slagged all around us, and yet we focus on dastardly Flea Droids dropped onto Obi-Wan's hull. The [i]one[/i] real shot where they show ship-to-ship combat showed man-operated turbolasers - why waste clones running guns that can be automated? Why put holes in the side of your ship when you can make the hull around the gun and still, with a little engineering, give the gun as wide a firing arc if not wider? The Trade Federation cruiser had this down, with those giant rotating turrets.
It's like when you're playing X-Wing Alliance, and you realize that the Death Star and a bunch of the star destroyers are just a texture pasted onto space. At least make it an animated texture!
[B]It's like when you're playing X-Wing Alliance, and you realize that the Death Star and a bunch of the star destroyers are just a texture pasted onto space. At least make it an animated texture! [/B][/QUOTE]
i was gutted at that! I was soo looking forward to swooping over more than what ? 2 star destroyers?
One thing i didnt get about the film was that last part about Qui-Gon. I'm guessing its going to lead into one of the series somehow? and maybe to teach Obi-Wan how to appear like that to Luke later on?
[B]i was gutted at that! I was soo looking forward to swooping over more than what ? 2 star destroyers?
One thing i didnt get about the film was that last part about Qui-Gon. I'm guessing its going to lead into one of the series somehow? and maybe to teach Obi-Wan how to appear like that to Luke later on? [/B][/QUOTE]
Exactly, Qui-Gon figured out how to talk to people after he died via the force.
Upon re-watching it, I liked it better. Still had some bad parts though. (Buzz droids for instance)
Also, I was really looking forward to a whirlwind of death when Yoda fought Palpatine in the Senate room, though I can't say I was [i]that[/i] dissapointed. ;)
I totally agree the initial space battle scene was just completely uninspiring and kinda boring. It was just like this huge orgasm of special effects which is really just hard to follow. In the original movies you get the sense where you feel whats going on and it flows into the story and what they are trying to accomplish. During the battles you feel the urgency of whats going on whether they be destroying a deathstar or whatever. That Ep III opening sequence just looked like a a bunch of pretty effects which really amounted to little of substance.
The rest I though was great and I'm very pleased with the movie. For the first time since the first 3 I actually felt like I was watching a Star Wars movie again and totally digging it.
[B]ANYTHING involving droids was horrid. I could handle the "romance" scenes--Episode II had prepared me for that--but in no way was I prepared to see R2 spew gasoline all over the goddamned place. I think that's the closest I've ever come to crying during a Star Wars film.
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That was oil, not gasoline.
[B]That was oil, not gasoline. [/B][/QUOTE]It was AWFUL is what it was. :mad:
[B]Exactly, Qui-Gon figured out how to talk to people after he died via the force.[/B][/QUOTE]
Ah i see. I really need to go watch it again:)
...if he dropped the pace back in this movie even slightly, it would not seem as good as it did.
There were a few points where I was choking on my suspension of disbelief...
...like Obi and Ani fighting a few feet from some nice goopy soft lava. The radiant heat alone would have seared them into pillar of ash almost on the spot. Even given force powers and maybe fancy droid shields... thats a little hard to believe.
R2 was a star, absofreakinlutely... fiesty little tin brain on legs
I've all but come to expect the dialogue to be awful in a SW movie, its become tradition to choke on the cheese.
the space battle scenes were too chaotic, they got the point across but at no point could you really get a feel for what was actually going on, a couple long shots would have helped immeasurably. The camera being mounted on a lump of silly putty didnt help matters.
as far as the buzz droids go... thats a real borrow from the matrix... and, they sucked, given that if they knew such a weapon system existed then the fighters would be equipped with burst ion grids which would fry the little bastards with little effort. A dopey idea really to believe that there would be no real countermeasure to them. if anything a cloud of much smaller ones which the ship flew through like a mine field would be better, and thier effects could be cumulative and gradual
What did turn me on a great deal was the Naboo twin engine boomerang 'spaceyacht' and Grevious' starfighter, very nice designs, the rest left me a bit cold...the X wing pre-deccesor was over done and over winged, the lil SD's were pretty good, the best of the capital class we saw, but none of the others turned me on much at all...
Im sure I could spend another few hours nit picking but it wont result in much... overall, a good flick
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...like Obi and Ani fighting a few feet from some nice goopy soft lava. The radiant heat alone would have seared them into pillar of ash almost on the spot. Even given force powers and maybe fancy droid shields... thats a little hard to believe.[/B][/QUOTE]
... you're talking about a series of movies where magical space-wizards fly around in spaceships and swing space-rave paraphenalia at eachother :p
Still, I really liked Grievous' ship. Reminded me of something out of Crimson Skies.