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IE market share at 89%

croxiscroxis I am the walrus
[url]http://livescience.com/technology/ap_050513_mozilla.html[/url]

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  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    Good. Now lets keep it falling and keep Firefox expanding! :)
  • MundaneMundane Elite Ranger
    Personally I am looking forward to IE 7.0
  • ShadowDancerShadowDancer When I say, "Why aye, gadgie," in my heart I say, "Och aye, laddie." London, UK
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Mundane [/i]
    [B]Personally I am looking forward to IE 7.0 [/B][/QUOTE]

    yeah, im looking forward to seeing how many holes it has in it too:D ;)
  • If Microsoft made "IE7 for Linux", and released it under GPL, then perhaps I could look forward to it... just for fun. :p
  • MundaneMundane Elite Ranger
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ShadowDancer [/i]
    [B]yeah, im looking forward to seeing how many holes it has in it too:D ;) [/B][/QUOTE]

    Not to forget that Firefox has had its share of holes.....
  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    Firefox holes are fixed within days of being found, and becuase Firefox is open source, almost all holes are found in a non-malicious manner.

    In comparison IE's holes are usually found for malicious purposes and then Microsodt often waits several months before issuing a patch.

    Also, as a side note, IE7 is planned only to be available for XP and Longhorn. If you use any other Microsoft OS you are out of luck. Good way for MS to screw their "loyal" followers :p
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    Longhorn...

    Sounds like another phallic symbol for Microsoft screwing the customer...

    :p
  • MundaneMundane Elite Ranger
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Random Chaos [/i]
    [B]Firefox holes are fixed within days of being found, and becuase Firefox is open source, almost all holes are found in a non-malicious manner.

    In comparison IE's holes are usually found for malicious purposes and then Microsodt often waits several months before issuing a patch.

    Also, as a side note, IE7 is planned only to be available for XP and Longhorn. If you use any other Microsoft OS you are out of luck. Good way for MS to screw their "loyal" followers :p [/B][/QUOTE]

    I see no reason to use Windows 95, 98 nor 2000 any longer. If you really want to use IE7 and still got W98, why not upgrade? You cannot expect that the latest software/hardware works with old OS.
  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    Simple reason not to upgrade to XP: I refuse to have a product that prohibits me from fiddling with my system every time I want to without reregistering until the cap is hit. I refuse to have an operating system I cannot cycle back onto older systems when I upgrade my main one.

    --RC
  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JackN [/i]
    [B]Longhorn...

    Sounds like another phallic symbol for Microsoft screwing the customer...

    :p [/B][/QUOTE]

    And Microsoft is another :p
  • ShadowDancerShadowDancer When I say, "Why aye, gadgie," in my heart I say, "Och aye, laddie." London, UK
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Mundane [/i]
    [B]I see no reason to use Windows 95, 98 nor 2000 any longer. If you really want to use IE7 and still got W98, why not upgrade? You cannot expect that the latest software/hardware works with old OS. [/B][/QUOTE]

    i may be wrong, but i seem to recall hearing somewhere that 98 was actually more stable than XP, but please feel free to correct me
  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    XP is more stable then 98. Only things less stable then 98 are 95 and ME.

    2000 however is just as stable as XP and doesn't have the BS that comes with XP.
  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    I know 98 was the most stable of the 9x series, I've found on my system that XP is the most stable. However XP wont install the right driver on my Dad's system or my brothers Voodoo5, so they keep their system on XP. XP also uses alot more computer resources than 98, so older systems will not run as well.
  • MundaneMundane Elite Ranger
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Random Chaos [/i]
    [B]XP is more stable then 98. Only things less stable then 98 are 95 and ME.

    2000 however is just as stable as XP and doesn't have the BS that comes with XP. [/B][/QUOTE]

    XP is rock solid I would say for being a Microsoft OS. Suppose I am just happy that it works excellent, no need to use time to configure and gettings stuff to work.
  • I can't believe I used to like IE.
  • MundaneMundane Elite Ranger
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by the_exile [/i]
    [B]I can't believe I used to like IE. [/B][/QUOTE]

    And I am too lazy to install something else and get into another habit just because which browser I am using isnt important for me as long as it works. Maybe something else works better, but I dont care as long as IE is "good" enough, I just dont need any fancy features just to browse the net.

    (and I have been using Firefox, Opera and others when working with Linux)
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    I refuse to continue to support a company by buying their OS which dictates to me what I can and can't do with MY machine (you know, MY property!).

    Linux baby!

    Fuck M$!

    ;)
  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    If only i had broadband for gentoo ;)
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    I'm enjoying the heck out of Mandrake 10.1

    It doesn't have the amount of games in the bundle that 9.1 had, but hey it's still rock solid...

    WINE hasn't become a solution to windows software for me yet, but eventually I'll get things going. Still so much to learn about it.

    With all that said though... Stills beats the shit out of Windows.

    XP/ Longhorn phhht!

    KMA!

    ;)
  • [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Mundane [/i]
    [B]And I am too lazy to install something else and get into another habit just because which browser I am using isnt important for me as long as it works. Maybe something else works better, but I dont care as long as IE is "good" enough, I just dont need any fancy features just to browse the net.[/B][/QUOTE]I know what you mean. The first few weeks of using a new browser are absolutely terrible--everything feels wrong and you spend more time messing with the stupid thing than actually surfing the web. That's why it took me almost a year to give Firefox a serious try. :p
  • ShadowDancerShadowDancer When I say, "Why aye, gadgie," in my heart I say, "Och aye, laddie." London, UK
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by the_exile [/i]
    [B]I know what you mean. The first few weeks of using a new browser are absolutely terrible--everything feels wrong and you spend more time messing with the stupid thing than actually surfing the web. That's why it took me almost a year to give Firefox a serious try. :p [/B][/QUOTE]


    i have to say that within minutes of trying firefox id decided that i was never going to use idiot explorer again! it just felt much more streamlined and easier to use, especially when i installed plugins and learnt the shortcuts.
  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Mundane [/i]
    [B]IE is "good" enough[/B][/QUOTE]

    IE doesn't support W3C standards for HTML, CSS2, and a whole slew of other things. To me that isn't "good enough" but rather "outdated" -- do not forget that IE hasn't been updated in years. Web standards continue to evolve. MS, until Firefox came out, had no reason to update their browser. They had the market share and had no threat, so they let it stagnate. IE 7 was only decided to be backported to XP after Firefox began cutting MS's market share. Originally it was only for and going to be integrated into Longhorn.

    To me that says MS doesn't care a damn about any of its users or their ability to surf the web.

    So why do you use IE when it doesn't support standards?

    NO IE version has ever supported proper HTML standards. MS just likes to invent their own, and ignore those others invent -- which is counter to the whole idea of the internet.
  • MundaneMundane Elite Ranger
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Random Chaos [/i]
    [B]IE doesn't support W3C standards for HTML, CSS2, and a whole slew of other things. To me that isn't "good enough" but rather "outdated" -- do not forget that IE hasn't been updated in years. Web standards continue to evolve. MS, until Firefox came out, had no reason to update their browser. They had the market share and had no threat, so they let it stagnate. IE 7 was only decided to be backported to XP after Firefox began cutting MS's market share. Originally it was only for and going to be integrated into Longhorn.

    To me that says MS doesn't care a damn about any of its users or their ability to surf the web.

    So why do you use IE when it doesn't support standards?

    NO IE version has ever supported proper HTML standards. MS just likes to invent their own, and ignore those others invent -- which is counter to the whole idea of the internet. [/B][/QUOTE]

    Why? because I am not creating webpages and I havent yet visited a page that demanded that I used another browser. Of course it is a big problem for the people creating them, but since I am not doing it, its not my problem. Once pages demands using a browser other than IE to be properly displayed, and I really have a need for visiting them, I will think about changing.

    But now: Back to reading "Managing and using information systems - a strategic approach"...exams coming closer :(
  • The Cabl3 GuyThe Cabl3 Guy Elite Ranger
    OS X Tiger rocks nuff said.
  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    "Its not my problem" is the root of all evil in the world, from internet standards to world hunger.
  • [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by croxis [/i]
    [B]"Its not my problem" is the root of all evil in the world, from internet standards to world hunger. [/B][/QUOTE]As long as the evil doesn't affect me, it's not my problem. ;)
  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by the_exile [/i]
    [B]As long as the evil doesn't affect me, it's not my problem. ;) [/B][/QUOTE]

    Microsoft is evil, therefore it affects you :p
  • [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Random Chaos [/i]
    [B]Microsoft is evil, therefore it affects you :p [/B][/QUOTE]That's one step below tautology. :p
  • E.TE.T Quote-o-matic
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JackN [/i]
    [B]Longhorn...

    Sounds like another phallic symbol for Microsoft screwing the customer...[/B][/QUOTE]Just wait until you hear it's system requirements/recommendation!


    [quote]Even on our testbed, a 3.2GHz Pentium 4 running a high-end ATI Radeon 9800XT graphics card, the Avalon DWM seemed just a tad sluggish. Additional cool features, like the compositing manager, weren't available yet.[/quote]
    [url]http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1586599,00.asp[/url]

    [url]http://www.dvhardware.net/article4730.html[/url]
    [url]http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1130996/posts[/url]


    So what you can expect is big steaming shitpile of bloatware requiring half of system resources just for running itself! :angryv:


    You can try blessedness of M$ bloatware by trying Catalyst Control Center made for .NET (Njet would be more approriate name)... people using that have reported around 10 second starting times for graphic card's control panel.
    And Macro$hit wants to move more programs to that platform!
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    .NET should only be used to catch smelly fish...
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