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Canadians now need passport in US
croxis
I am the walrus
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[url]http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002232477_documents06m.html[/url]
[quote]If you travel to the Caribbean, Mexico or even Canada, the federal government soon will require that you have a valid passport to get back home.
And for the first time, our Canadian neighbors also will need a passport to travel south of the border.
Aimed at further reinforcing the U.S. perimeter against terrorist threats, the new rules for air, land and sea travel, announced yesterday by the departments of State and Homeland Security, will be phased in over two years between December 2005 and December 2007.
The impact of these changes could be especially strong in the Pacific Northwest, just south of Canada's British Columbia, site of the 2010 Winter Olympic Games.
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[quote]If you travel to the Caribbean, Mexico or even Canada, the federal government soon will require that you have a valid passport to get back home.
And for the first time, our Canadian neighbors also will need a passport to travel south of the border.
Aimed at further reinforcing the U.S. perimeter against terrorist threats, the new rules for air, land and sea travel, announced yesterday by the departments of State and Homeland Security, will be phased in over two years between December 2005 and December 2007.
The impact of these changes could be especially strong in the Pacific Northwest, just south of Canada's British Columbia, site of the 2010 Winter Olympic Games.
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Comments
Can you imagine getting drunk down in Mexico and losing your passport...
:eek:
[B]That's gonna make for more work for the embassies...
Can you imagine getting drunk down in Mexico and losing your passport...
:eek: [/B][/QUOTE]
Yes, I can imagine, actually :p
Passport is also a very good document to have in terms of its ID value, a great place to start if you lose your wallet etc and have to find a way to 're-exist' in the soicio-political world we live in. So its not a huge loss to have one.
May be interesting for those who do regular commutes to Canada or vice versa for work...
It took me about 5 seconds to get back in.
Granted we should have an open border with our largest trade partener, but as it stands now it is way to easy for a terrorist to corss.
But this is exactly the kind of idiotic behaviour you can expect from Bush and his puppets.
What's the change to get killed by a terrorist in USA? I have no idea, but I do know for a fact, that it's ASTRONOMICALLY small. So small it's not worth even a thought.
But hey, what can you expect from a stupid?
- PJH
Regards,
Morden
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by croxis [/i]
[B][url]http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002232477_documents06m.html[/url] [/B][/QUOTE]
Just out of curiosity, why did you title this "Canadians now need passport in US" when Americans also need a passport to get into Canada?
They were lucky the minutemen didn't get them.
[url]http://7am.com/cgi-bin/catwire.cgi?USA_1000_2005040501.htm[/url]
[B]Great. I now have to shell out $90.00 for a passport to goto the US on a day trip... Fuck that! [/B][/QUOTE]
Considering several engineers at work (and perhaps me too, soon) will have to travel often enough up to Quebec from the United States on business, the fact it goes into effect in 2007 for air and sea travel does affect a lot of people around here, too. Of course, I can file an expense report to get it paid for by the company.
No just paris cause she left me her number n stuff
Oh and Mexico STILL has stricter immigration laws then the US
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Oh and Mexico STILL has stricter immigration laws then the US [/B][/QUOTE]
And who the hell wants to live in that Dirt hole of a country... Mexico I mean.
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Not even Mexicans want to live in Mexico
[B]I love the fact that the US is getting bitched at for implementing a policy in 2007 thats pretty much to canadian policy currently.
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You don't need a passport to get into Canada, just a US birth certificate and 2 forms of picture ID.
[B]You don't need a passport to get into Canada, just a US birth certificate and 2 forms of picture ID. [/B][/QUOTE]
Thats what I thought too
[url]http://www.lonelyplanet.com/destinations/north_america/canada/facts.htm[/url]
[quote]Most Western visitors don't need a visa to visit Canada. Travellers from South Africa, China, North Korea, Taiwan, Eastern European and developing countries do require them. Entry stamps for visits of up to six months are free[/quote]
[B]And who the hell wants to live in that Dirt hole of a country... Mexico I mean.
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Not even Mexicans want to live in Mexico [/B][/QUOTE]
Yeah, you would know, wouldn't you?
[B]And who the hell wants to live in that Dirt hole of a country... Mexico I mean.
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Not even Mexicans want to live in Mexico [/B][/QUOTE] If you wanted to look like a total asshole with that post I must congratulate you! :D
Or maybe you were just making a bad joke?
For the record: USA citizens do not currently need a valid passport or visa to enter México, any official ID (even an expired passport) is enough.
Tyvar:
I'm not sure what you mean about México having stricter immigration laws than the USA... but then, since I'm Mexican I haven't had to learn the immigration policies of my country.
I did however learn about the immigration policies of the USA during my stay as a graduate student.
It's certainly much harder for a Mexican to enter the USA (legally) or become a resident than the other way around.
In the end I decided to [i]return[/i] to México, rather than stay in the USA and luckily I got a good job offer.
So back to Reaver4K's quip: Mexicans do not only want to live in México, many prefer to return here from the USA...
I wouldn't say the immigration is overly difficult, but it is quite a heavy bureaucratic process, and a lot of people find it confusing.
Montoya, where in México do you live?
Yeah theres alot of nice areas closer to the coast but the nitty gritty areas man what a difference. Cancun is a complete opposite anything that is cut off from the coast seems to be that much poorer it was really sad. I don't think we should open the borders to Mexico I think we should expand our border with Mexico on the shear number of human rights violations.
[B]The place is really bad for Pollution and Crime too. Which is why I call it a Dirt hole. [/B][/QUOTE] That dirt-hole place full of pollution and crime is México [i]City[/i] not the whole country of México. ;)
(No offense meant if you're a "chilango" CurZ. So that everyone understands, there's a friendly rivalry between the capital and the rest of the country some mutual poking is traditional)
The border towns, I'm sorry to say, can actually look like dirt holes. It's a shame how the contrast between the USA and México is that big in places like Tijuana, Laredo, Reynosa, etc., but the parts you see as you cross the border are not the best parts of the town, and aren't representative.
And I have seen similar and worse places in the poorest parts of Houston, TX too. I wouldn't be surprised if the slums of L.A. are just as bad as the slums of Tijuana.
The coast towns geared towards tourism aren't representative either. Cancun in particular is considered by many an "americanized" town, some Mexicans say it doesn't even "feel" like part of Mexico (but I haven't been there).
Go to Monterrey (where I'm originally from), San Luis Potosi (where I'm at), Queretaro, Guadalajara, Zacatecas, Puebla, even México City;), and I think you'll find a better picture of México.
I won't lie, it ain't always as pretty as the USA, and in any of those cities you could find very poor areas. But I'm almost sure that it won't be as bad as the image you currently have.
About human rights violations... it's gotten much better than the terrible track record for which México is still infamous for.
I won't lie and say there aren't problems, but I can assure you that things are improving and human rights violations are not as many nor as bad as before.
There are some very nice places here in the city, and there are a lot of run down areas. Just like any major city, I suppose.
I haven't been to any border towns nor any of the really touristy places (unless you want to call Guanajuato or San Miguel de Allende touristy). Hell, I haven't even been to see Teotihuacan yet.
But what I have seen of the country, I love, and so do the people that live here. From what I can tell, people here are mostly very receptive towards foreigners (aún nosotros pinches gueritos ;)), and there are many of them here. You can meet people of pretty much any nationality here.
Oh, and you have to mention Cuernavaca in your list of places to visit :)
[B]Hey, I'm all for anything that lessens my chance of ever running into Simmonds. ;) [/B][/QUOTE]
Dont worrie. As most people who are in the IRC Channel, most of my Traval plans are very very far away from you.