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Pope is gone
croxis
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Edit: well, to be exact, approximately a month from now a new pope is elected: [url]http://www.religionfacts.com/christianity/features/papal_elections.htm[/url]
[B]Pope is not gone for long, another will step on his place soon... whether we want it or not.
Edit: well, to be exact, approximately a month from now a new pope is elected: [url]http://www.religionfacts.com/christianity/features/papal_elections.htm[/url] [/B][/QUOTE]
it could be much less than that, conclave could last only one day, not likely, but it could happen if there is a 2/3 majority in the first vote.
[B]27 bigoted years too late. [/B][/QUOTE]
LOL.... I almost choked when I read that...
The Anti-Matter bomb should go off any time soon.
I will be staying away from new services for a bit... It will be the pope this and pope that for the next few weeks><
[B]Or it could go for months. It hasn't happened recently, but anything is possible. [/B][/QUOTE]
Nah, it can't go for months anymore, back in '96 Pope John Paul II instituted a bunch of new policies designed to make it not last months, now, if it goes for 30 votes witho pope being elected by a 2/3 majority it switches ut ato a simple majority of 50.1% i honestly can't see it going more than a couple weeks at most, but it could go for 30 days or more.
[B]I think I have heard if the next pope is a Pope Peter the end times are near. [/B][/QUOTE]
I actually wouldnt be suprised for a John Paul III or a Pius XIII
And I dont think they can use Peter, as there hasn't been one since St Peter. and that was almost 2000 years and 265 popes ago
[B]Pope is not gone for long, another will step on his place soon... whether we want it or not.[/B][/QUOTE]
This seems like an odd thing to say...
There are still so many things that could be improved by changing some of the catholic policies... for example, what kind of harm would a female pope do? :)
Didn't JMS take some flak for a passing mention in B5 that the 23rd century pope was female?
[B]Didn't JMS take some flak for a passing mention in B5 that the 23rd century pope was female? [/B][/QUOTE]
i dont know anything about that, but if he did then good on him!
[B]I think I have heard if the next pope is a Pope Peter the end times are near. [/B][/QUOTE]
Actually there's supposed to be (2) more popes, the last being called Peter Romanus (Romanis), and the second to last (whoever gets voted this time) is supposed to have a short term and possibly killed to promote the last one.
Such is prophecy and interpretation though...
;) :p
Are we about to have another anti paupist campaign?
[B]Seriously I'd love to hear the reasoning behind that no-female-pope rule.[/B][/QUOTE]
It probably has something to do with the no-female-priest rule.
[B]
Such is prophecy and interpretation though...
;) :p [/B][/QUOTE]
Yes your right.
[B]Would it be wrong for me to point out the bigotry thats infesting this thread?
Are we about to have another anti paupist campaign? [/B][/QUOTE]
Yea, I htink that however you look at it this Pope was a large step forward for the Catholic church in terms of apologizing for past mistakes/making amends. There are always going to be things you dont agree with- thats religion. I just hope that we can remember a person who was, for the most part, a good man who cared about his religion and tried to do the best. I respected him and hope he rests in peace.
[B]Actually there's supposed to be (2) more popes, the last being called Peter Romanus (Romanis), and the second to last (whoever gets voted this time) is supposed to have a short term and possibly killed to promote the last one.
Such is prophecy and interpretation though...
;) :p [/B][/QUOTE]
If I remeber correctly (and I haven't a clue where I heard this) that the last pope is supposed to be from the Jesuit order....
An interesting fact: The head of the Jesuit order is sometime refered to as the Black Pope, since its thought that the Jesuit order has had some hand in "removal" of popes it considered unfit for the job. That said, its thought that the assasination attempt on John Paul's life was actually part of the KGB doing.
Jake
Just wow. I came in here expecting a moment of silence and dozens of :( emoticons. Even Dale Eandheardt got that much and he did nothing to try to better mankind as a whole.
Instead, I come in here and see nothing but a bunch of snibbeling little brats glad to see the death of a world leader that did his best to better the world and try to stabalize the tension between religions.
Way to go team, your officially a bunch of jerks.
-End Rant
*Gives the proper moment of silence*
:(
To quote Delenn:
He was a good man
[i](insert objection or attack here)[/i]
He was a good man!
[i](insert further objections or attacks here)[/i]
[b]He Was a Good Man![/b]
Do not go around deconstructing fallen stars. Give the dead the respect they deserve.
The world is not a better place without him.
He did much to correct the past mistakes of the Catholic Church, including working for a greater understanding between science and religion.
He did much for World Peace.
He did much for achieving communication, understanding, and peace between the religions of the world, with a view towards ecumenism and avoiding the religious conflicts of the past.
He always advocated equality, and help for the poorest.
He advocated for human rights and the right to live.
He travelled around the world for all of that, not only for religious reasons, and he travelled almost to the end even if his health was failling.
I might not agree with all the policies from the Vatican, but I can see that Pope John Paul II did his best not only for and from the Catholic Church, but for the world at large.
He Was a Good Man.
I mourn his passing.
:( :( :( :( :(
Do not go around deconstructing fallen stars.[/quote]
Never intended to. But, since you pointed out his merits, I feel obligated to point out his failures.
-- He failed on equality of men and women, within his very own institution. In countries where Catholic faith is widespread, this failure hindered the process of gender equality.
-- He ran his church in fashion which on really many occasions... ignored disagreement and criticism. This permitted multiple grievous failures (for example instances of abuse) to continue unaddressed.
-- His stubborn recommendations regarding reproductive health... did a great disservice for many lives, and offered a quite regrettable favour to AIDS.
-- Especially in poorer countries, same policies severely undermined efforts to stop runaway population growth.
-- As one of his final gestures, he demonstrated failure to understand separation of church and state, and tried sticking his fingers into the EU Constitution. That was plain impolite.
[quote]He Was a Good Man.[/quote]
In the story of Babylon 5... an emperor called Turhan was likewise a good man... but with poorly matched talents for his position.
You know what? The cure for ALL STDs is to stop pre-marital sex. You only have sex with one person, and they likewise, and you never get an STD. Simple as that.
[B]Wow...
Just wow. I came in here expecting a moment of silence and dozens of :( emoticons. Even Dale Eandheardt got that much and he did nothing to try to better mankind as a whole.
Instead, I come in here and see nothing but a bunch of snibbeling little brats glad to see the death of a world leader that did his best to better the world and try to stabalize the tension between religions.
Way to go team, your officially a bunch of jerks.
-End Rant
*Gives the proper moment of silence*
:( [/B][/QUOTE]
What you expected to be in the thread and what the original author intended could possibly be two completely different things.
Croxis created this thread but his initial post was very brief and vague, and there's no indication that he intended for it to be a "moment of silence" thread, and so far he has yet to say anything about the criticism.
So I think it's fair to let this thread go where the posts lead it rather than restrict it to only positive comments.
And A#, ease up on the namecalling.
[B]You know what? The cure for ALL STDs is to stop pre-marital sex. You only have sex with one person, and they likewise, and you never get an STD. Simple as that. [/B][/QUOTE]
and then someone gets divorced a couple of times and catches HIV from somewhere, and the trend is nicely continued anyway! what are the divorce figures like for the US? i think they're pretty high here in the UK
[B]and then someone gets divorced a couple of times and catches HIV from somewhere, and the trend is nicely continued anyway! what are the divorce figures like for the US? i think they're pretty high here in the UK [/B][/QUOTE]They go down as you go up.
*revives family values debate*
I'm no big fan of religion, but I think John Paul II did a better job than most. Still, I see no reason why we should refrain from criticism simply because he's recently deceased.
there is nothing out there that cannot be solved by science. i really dont see why theres a need to involve anything else