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The Next Best Thing

Data CrystalData Crystal Pencil Artist
Ok, I'm slowly starting to accept the fact that ITF is finally 6ft under. So... after this, a small little bobbing thought armed with an electrified sledgehammer assaulted the right lobe of my brain and made me wonder what would be the next best thing after an official B5 sim. Opinions wanted.

So, before you throw in suggestions as sex/drugs/bungee jumping [ [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]], I'll clarify that I'm talking about mods here. Mods and / or freeware projects and such... So what (in your opinion) would be the closest equivalent to the original ITF project... graphic- and physics wise?
I'm saying that the best bet so far is the improved Buda 5 mod for I-War 2 which I guess is still in the making, but that's my opinion. (Insert "I ran to the store and bought it" -comment here)

Another thing which crossed my mind is that now when our 'pet' is officially dead, could we all as a merry little bunch contribute somehow in the making of this next best thing? Or would that be just another disaster scenario of "too many cooks"?

Weee... another trivial post. Don't kill me for it, I'm a bit tired...

Comments

  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    I think the IFH project is the best one so far.

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  • Alpha-1Alpha-1 Elite Ranger Germany
    I think the best's are IFH, TBP and Buda5 v2.0

    so, why not helping the mod/freewaregames theam with there mods and games [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]
  • RigsRigs Earthforce Officer
    You know, aside from some 'encyclopedic' apps related to B5, why no games, AT ALL? I mean, no strategy, no adventure, or RPGs? Hell, maybe an Elite Force type FPS in the B5 universe. Anything. Surely, some publisher has to realize that there is a market for B5 gaming...uh, right? Lately, I've just been shaking my head, thinking that instead of making ANOTHER Quake, or another Icewind Dale, why not revive ITF. It can't go down as bad as say, Pools of Radiance. Sure, there is risk, but it is SO worth it...*sigh*...

    Anyway, I think IFH is the best thing, the closest thing we can get to ITF...

    =-Rigs-=

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  • Data CrystalData Crystal Pencil Artist
    You know, one thing we could do is as follows;

    First, we wait until the whole ITF -embargo has faded from the minds of normal average gamers. People who never really even cared about ITF probably don't remember it anymore, but several gaming mags have archived stories about it, so they still remember. Because they still do, some probably even fairly well, they don't want to waste good pages on an old issue. But with time-

    What I'm aiming at is "whatever happened to B5" -article. The idea is to wait around until the best mods plus freeware games are in such condition that they'd look ready and appealing to the general public. After this, we round up all the data about them, relevant facts and the basic info. (Credits, development crews, the first steps of the embargo ... )

    After this, we write a petition of sorts to every gaming mag we can get hold of, and with the petition we give them links to the mods, basic raw material and possibly even stuff that can be placed on an article in its basic form. Good, formulated text, that is. And in the 'petition' we ask them if they'd be interested in doing an article about a game that was cancelled, but which the fans & developers never completely let die. [Guess the game [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]] And what the dream that got the axe has today changed into.

    If the information we provide is good enough, and if we show the mags the fierce amount of good, graphically very sophisticated mods out there, they should be interested enough. Interested enough to at least think about publishing such an article.

    Ok, let's be realistic; This kind of thing could result in 1-3 mags in publishing an article, 2 pages at the best (The guys at PELIT -here in Finland have always been good to us), a short article at most, but most of all, we could get public interest at a rather small trouble, plus of course good publicity for the mods.

    And IF we get any such attention, maybe some new-boss-in-house in an average gaming company gets the idea to fund a certain little project. [i]How much can it cost, we could buy & modify the engine from Particle, contact some Old Hounds (no offense) who'd probably be willing to work on in their old project and so-on, possibly license some fan-made models and pick up the pieces here and there... [/i]

    Sorry, I still think the game was too good a thing to go to waste. Someone has to see all the good that can come from it sooner or later.

    So, no frontal assault, no DOLPHINS STILL GONE! -attempts, let's settle for Now And Then; Dolphins -article.

    Mmmmmmmmmmkayy? 11.05PM zzzzzz...need sleep. Bad.

    But we could do this later on. It might take a year or so, but I think at least I'll be writing a formal letter some time in the future--

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  • Data CrystalData Crystal Pencil Artist
    Oh, and I suspect that Biggles did the 'ol shift again... or else the chip that used to be my mem needs replacing...
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Biggles figured that since this was about B5, the best place for it was the B5 forum, not the zocalo. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]

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    Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
    The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • Data CrystalData Crystal Pencil Artist
    [quote]Originally posted by Biggles:
    [b]Biggles figured that since this was about B5, the best place for it was the B5 forum, not the zocalo. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]

    [/b][/quote]

    Well, that's one shift in the not-so-popular direction. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img] Since it seems that almost every thread that gets moved gets moved from the B5 board to the Zocalo, not the other way around.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    That's because people very rarely post B5 stuff elsewhere, but we often get offtopic threads in this forum.

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    [b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
    Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
    The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    I'll be crucified for saying this...


    ... but I am really just tired of anything B5 anymore...

    [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]
  • A2597A2597 Fanboy
    [b]FWAP!!!![/b]
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    Hey...you added a max font size?
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    [This message has been edited by A2597 (edited 03-21-2002).]
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  • Adam EvansAdam Evans Earthforce Officer
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    [img]http://www.tgu.org.uk/users/babylon5/banners/babalon5.jpg[/img]

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    [This message has been edited by Adam Evans (edited 03-23-2002).]
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [quote]Originally posted by A2597:
    [b]Hey...you added a max font size?[/b][/quote]

    No... font sizes go from 1 to 7. At least as far as I know they do.

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    [b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
    Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
    The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • The link in your sig is dead Adam - not sure if this is the site you were aiming for... I didn't see your alias on the staff lists.

    Babylon 5 for Armada II - [url="http://www.tgu.org.uk/users/babylon5/b5-a2.html"]http://www.tgu.org.uk/users/babylon5/b5-a2.html[/url]

    Some damn fine looking work on display from these lot, even if I am starting to get a little overindulged with the entire Babylon 5 thing, myself [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
  • Adam EvansAdam Evans Earthforce Officer
    Its this: [url="http://www.tgu.org.uk/users/babylon5/"]http://www.tgu.org.uk/users/babylon5/[/url]

    Also Im a staff member. I dont go under this name. My name on the Staff List is "Babylon5 Crusade". If you want proof click my Webmaster Certified pic and my name will be in there.

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  • Adam EvansAdam Evans Earthforce Officer
    Also that I forgot to add the HTTP on the damn image :P

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  • Hehe, glad I could be of help mate [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
  • whitestar90whitestar90 Elite Ranger
    The best we can do for now is support all the B5 mods that are going and of course IFH which is a stand alone game [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]

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  • There used to be two groups working on stand-alone, freeware, game - IFH and the B5: SFS... though I haven't heard anything from the latter in a while [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/frown.gif[/img]
  • WORFWORF The Burninator
    Hey! Don't forget Thirdage: Legacy, thats freeware and it has more in it than I have told anyone, I wouldn't want to spoil the surprises.

    Worf

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  • Sorry Worf, I wasn't meaning to forget you - I was just thinking of the flight-sim style freeware games...
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Whatever happened to the freeware game?

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    [b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
    Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
    The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • PJHPJH The Lovely Thing
    I got to say that I'm with Jack here. I'm tired of anything B5 too really. Only thing in B5 which still interests me would be a new series. Of course a well done B5 space sim game would be nice though, but I don't have any interest in freeware games or mods really.

    - PJH
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