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[quote]Pentagon Sought 'Gay' Bomb
by Paul Johnson 365Gay.com Washington Bureau Chief
Posted: January 14, 2005 11:02 a.m. ET
(Washington) The Pentagon tried to develop a bomb that would turn an opposing army "gay" according to newly declassified documents.
The papers, obtained by the New Scientist and the Sunshine Project - an organization that exposes research into chemical and biological weapons - show that during the Clinton presidency the military attempted to create a series of non-lethal chemical weapons that would disrupt discipline and morale among enemy troops.
One weapon that the Pentagon worked on is described as an "aphrodisiac" that would make enemy soldiers sexually irresistible to each other.
According to the documents the Pentagon believed that "provoking widespread homosexual behavior" among troops would cause a "distasteful but completely non-lethal" blow to morale.
The papers which date from 1994 show that the bomb was being worked on by scientists at the US Air Force Wright Lab in Dayton, Ohio.
The documents also show that the lab requested $7.5 million to pursue the bomb, but a Pentagon spokesperson told the New Scientist it is not known if the project ever went ahead.
“The Air Force’s proposal is delusional, homophobic and offensive,” said C. Dixon Osburn, Executive Director of Servicemembers Legal Defense Network.
“Gays and lesbians serve in the United States armed forces and in the militaries of our closest allies. They do so as part of a formidable fighting force. The assertion that a gay opponent would be somehow less effective in combat is outrageous. No one questioned the battle prowess of Alexander the Great because of his sexual orientation.”[/quote]
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Christians issue gay warning on SpongeBob video
Conservative groups criticize maker's 'tolerance pledge'
Thursday, January 20, 2005 Posted: 8:19 PM EST (0119 GMT)
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Conservative Christian groups accuse the makers of a video starring SpongeBob SquarePants, Barney and a host of other cartoon characters of promoting homosexuality to children.
The wacky square yellow SpongeBob is one of the stars of a music video due to be sent to 61,000 U.S. schools in March. The makers -- the nonprofit We Are Family Foundation -- say the video is designed to encourage tolerance and diversity.
But at least two Christian activist groups say the innocent cartoon characters are being exploited to promote the acceptance of homosexuality.
"A short step beneath the surface reveals that one of the differences being celebrated is homosexuality," wrote Ed Vitagliano in an article for the American Family Association.
The video is a remake of the 1979 hit song "We Are Family" using the voices and images of SpongeBob, Barney, Winnie the Pooh, Bob the Builder, the Rugrats and other TV cartoon characters. It was made by a foundation set up by songwriter Nile Rodgers after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, in an effort to promote healing.
Christian groups however have taken exception to the tolerance pledge on the foundation's Web site, which asks people to respect the sexual identity of others along with their abilities, beliefs, culture and race.
"Their inclusion of the reference to 'sexual identity" within their 'tolerance pledge' is not only unnecessary, but it crosses a moral line," James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, said in a statement released Thursday.
Rodgers said he was astounded by the attack.
"That is so myopic and harsh," he told Reuters. "You have really got to look hard to find anything in this that is offensive to anyone. The last thing I am going to do is taint these characters."
Dobson was quoted by the New York Times on Thursday as having singled out the wildly popular SpongeBob during remarks about the video at dinner this week in Washington, D.C.
SpongeBob, who lives in a pineapple under the sea, was "outed" by the U.S. media in 2002 after reports that the TV show and its merchandise are popular with gays. His creator, Stephen Hillenburg, said at the time that though SpongeBob was an oddball, he thought of all the characters in the show as asexual.
It is not the first time that children's TV favorites have come under the critical spotlight of the Christian right. In 1999, the Rev. Jerry Falwell described Tinky Winky, the purse-toting purple Teletubbie, as a gay role model.
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[quote]Pentagon Sought 'Gay' Bomb
by Paul Johnson 365Gay.com Washington Bureau Chief
Posted: January 14, 2005 11:02 a.m. ET
(Washington) The Pentagon tried to develop a bomb that would turn an opposing army "gay" according to newly declassified documents.
The papers, obtained by the New Scientist and the Sunshine Project - an organization that exposes research into chemical and biological weapons - show that during the Clinton presidency the military attempted to create a series of non-lethal chemical weapons that would disrupt discipline and morale among enemy troops.
One weapon that the Pentagon worked on is described as an "aphrodisiac" that would make enemy soldiers sexually irresistible to each other.
According to the documents the Pentagon believed that "provoking widespread homosexual behavior" among troops would cause a "distasteful but completely non-lethal" blow to morale.
The papers which date from 1994 show that the bomb was being worked on by scientists at the US Air Force Wright Lab in Dayton, Ohio.
The documents also show that the lab requested $7.5 million to pursue the bomb, but a Pentagon spokesperson told the New Scientist it is not known if the project ever went ahead.
“The Air Force’s proposal is delusional, homophobic and offensive,” said C. Dixon Osburn, Executive Director of Servicemembers Legal Defense Network.
“Gays and lesbians serve in the United States armed forces and in the militaries of our closest allies. They do so as part of a formidable fighting force. The assertion that a gay opponent would be somehow less effective in combat is outrageous. No one questioned the battle prowess of Alexander the Great because of his sexual orientation.”[/quote]
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[QUOTE]
Christians issue gay warning on SpongeBob video
Conservative groups criticize maker's 'tolerance pledge'
Thursday, January 20, 2005 Posted: 8:19 PM EST (0119 GMT)
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Conservative Christian groups accuse the makers of a video starring SpongeBob SquarePants, Barney and a host of other cartoon characters of promoting homosexuality to children.
The wacky square yellow SpongeBob is one of the stars of a music video due to be sent to 61,000 U.S. schools in March. The makers -- the nonprofit We Are Family Foundation -- say the video is designed to encourage tolerance and diversity.
But at least two Christian activist groups say the innocent cartoon characters are being exploited to promote the acceptance of homosexuality.
"A short step beneath the surface reveals that one of the differences being celebrated is homosexuality," wrote Ed Vitagliano in an article for the American Family Association.
The video is a remake of the 1979 hit song "We Are Family" using the voices and images of SpongeBob, Barney, Winnie the Pooh, Bob the Builder, the Rugrats and other TV cartoon characters. It was made by a foundation set up by songwriter Nile Rodgers after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, in an effort to promote healing.
Christian groups however have taken exception to the tolerance pledge on the foundation's Web site, which asks people to respect the sexual identity of others along with their abilities, beliefs, culture and race.
"Their inclusion of the reference to 'sexual identity" within their 'tolerance pledge' is not only unnecessary, but it crosses a moral line," James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, said in a statement released Thursday.
Rodgers said he was astounded by the attack.
"That is so myopic and harsh," he told Reuters. "You have really got to look hard to find anything in this that is offensive to anyone. The last thing I am going to do is taint these characters."
Dobson was quoted by the New York Times on Thursday as having singled out the wildly popular SpongeBob during remarks about the video at dinner this week in Washington, D.C.
SpongeBob, who lives in a pineapple under the sea, was "outed" by the U.S. media in 2002 after reports that the TV show and its merchandise are popular with gays. His creator, Stephen Hillenburg, said at the time that though SpongeBob was an oddball, he thought of all the characters in the show as asexual.
It is not the first time that children's TV favorites have come under the critical spotlight of the Christian right. In 1999, the Rev. Jerry Falwell described Tinky Winky, the purse-toting purple Teletubbie, as a gay role model.
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[B]Gay or not I hate spongebob anyway. I read another article that said he was a jew & supports zionism. :D [/B][/QUOTE]
I want to kill Songebob.
I think they gay Bomb idea is stupid.
Christian Conservative Groups
that just says it all.
Anyways... Does anyone remember in the early days of computer gaming circa 91 the original Wolfinstien. There was a mod you could download (if you were lucky enough to have internet then) called Baneystein. The mod turned all of the general nazi's into Bevis and Butthead, and the level bosses into incarnations of Barney.
But the thing I remember most about it was the story that came in the zip folder called Barneystein Day of the Dead. It told a Barney initiated holocost where he then takes over the earth using children as his army. But when the children come of age he beheads the boys and impregnates the girls with this half human half dinosaur thing. Anybody remember that?
Often, conservative christian groups are too busy fight the "Devil" on the outside rather than the devil within themselves. It scares me sometimes, when I talk to my conservative friends, about how much they attribute unknowns to "The Devil" as opposed to approaching new ways of thinking with an open mind.
Jake
[B]OH! found it [URL=http://www.pixelscapes.com/spatulacity/barney.txt]Barney story not for the faint of heart[/URL] [/B][/QUOTE]
thats the best!
However the scholorship about Alexander the Great being gay is rather half baked itself. And the majority of his army which were macedonians were DEFINATLY not gay.
This is one of those those things that because it sounds good politicly is being heralded is truth when it aint got shit behind it, much like a certain book by Michael A. Bellesiles.
As for the spongebob thing, its not the character itself that is being attacked, yet the means in which it is being used, and more entirely if you actually did some real reaserch into the issue, you would find that there are materials being used along with the video that are even in my view quite in appropriate.
Now let me get back to stocking up on gas and firewood so I can burn all you heathens at the stake! :D
[B]They gay bomb is retarded
However the scholorship about Alexander the Great being gay is rather half baked itself. And the majority of his army which were macedonians were DEFINATLY not gay.
This is one of those those things that because it sounds good politicly is being heralded is truth when it aint got shit behind it, much like a certain book by Michael A. Bellesiles.
:D [/B][/QUOTE]
Why would anyone care if he was gay? Why should it matter?
[B]Why would anyone care if he was gay? Why should it matter? [/B][/QUOTE]
I'll take that question for 100 Alex. It matters to pro-gay activists because in their view of things it proves the legitimacy of gay unions in antiquity therefore bolstering their claim that gay unions should have an equal footing with straight unions. One might use that same way of looking at things by saying that there is a lot of m/m sex in prisons so that proves ..what exactly ? That when people get horny they will use whatever is avaiable to bring them off ? In the case of prisons it is often brutal. In the case of ancient armys maybe or maybe not. To some extent a dominance thing. To some extent comrades in the field etc. For those that get uptight about it, often it is because it is attributed foremost to the Greeks and the Greeks are touchy about it thinking somehow it reflects on them personaly. I sure don't care who was boinking who thousands of years ago.
AHA
[B]Well I mean its not like everyone here wants to stay a night at Abu Graib. :D
AHA [/B][/QUOTE]
Well people who find being Draged around naked on a leash, Kinky would stay.
Donit matter though the guy still conquered quite a bit. Too bad his succesors fucked it up.
I guess it goes back to the Greek way of life. Independence, enlightment, & academia. They really wouldn't have the kind of manpower to maintain control over that area long term. And unlike the Romans they were not good administrators & left nothing to make them dependent on.
End history lesson.
[B]I reject the notion that the Alexander reference is in any way germane [/B][/QUOTE]
[i]The god-damn Germans ain't got nothin' to do with it...[/i]
Sorry, your post just reminded me a line from one of my favorite movies...
Jake
[B]Last I read macidonian != greek [/B][/QUOTE]
I leave the debate for others to settle.
There is a provice in Greece called Macedonia.
There is also a country called Macedonia.
[B]I sure don't care who was boinking who thousands of years ago. [/B][/QUOTE]
Or in the current day, I'd hope. The last thing we should want is the government legislating what gay people or the rest of us who are straight do in the bedroom. God knows they legislate everything else heavily enough.
[B]Wow we went off topic yet again [/B][/QUOTE]
When do we [b]not[/b] go off topic?
After watching Babylon 5 again its kinda surpriseing how many gay couples jms slipped in without drawing attention to it.
AHAHAHA! :whip:
[B]The problem is that the concept of homosexuality is a very recent construct, it was created at the very beginnings of modern psychology in the 18 and 19 hundreds. This does not mean there wernt anyone attracted to the same sex, but social constructism must be kept in mind. [/B][/QUOTE]
Not quite, we know quite a few of the ancient civilizations had notions of homosexuality, and strongly discouraged it.
Even the greeks looked down on as an exclusive behavior, you were SUPPOST to get married (which ment to a woman!) and have kids! even if you had other activities.
However the ancient greeks also at some level seemed to be lenient towards pedastry, which we all know today to be a negative practice. And throw people in jail for, or hang em, I prefer hanging myself.
And as for the Macedonians being greek, the Greeks of 500 BC didnt think so! They were not considered either Doric or Ionic , and were most likely related to the Illyrians who were in albiania.
Anyways, I just was bristling about how bad scholorship ends up being the "truth" when the reality of the situation is we know nothing about alexanders sexual habbits
Guess ya gotta get your jollies off somethin.
The most unlikely of all: during the Middle Ages, multiple Christian churches (yes, them of all unlikely candidates) actually had rules written down... for establishing a union between two men, or two women. Those formalities were pretty much identical to marriage.
However in general terms, I think the religions scoring highest in ability to *refrain* from crawling into people's bedroom... are Taoism and Buddhism (please correct if you think I could be erring).
To my understanding, most strains of those beliefs either perceive sexuality with a fair degree of indifference, suggest that enlightenment requires distancing oneself from such passtimes, or merely recommend seeking balance.
I don't recall any instances of them stepping out of their way to oppose or promote gayness. Only one instance of defending it (an occasion when some Christian sect, while pursuing a court case, claimed that all religions were against gayness, but some Buddhist sect protested the claim).
[QUOTE]Well the greeks belived that knowledge was bassed by, well, body fluids. Which is why there was pedastry. In theory it wasn't for sexual purposes but for education to pass the winsdom of the teacher to the student.[/QUOTE]
Time has seen countless stupid beliefs... but this... is surprising to me. While admittedly, my knowledge about ancient Greece is limited... I have seen no mention of that. Really?