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Halo 2

RickRick Sector 14 Studios
Well, I finally did it.

I bought an Xbox....and it was for one game...[i]Halo 2[/i].

In perspective, I waited for [i]Halo[/i] for the PC. It was good, but I wasn't as drawn in as I had been with the story in other FPS games.

[i]Halo 2[/i] has proven to be quite the contrary. Until recently, I think the original [i]Half-Life[/i] or [i]Max Payne2[/i] were setting the bar for compelling gaming drama.

I've not finished it yet, but I have to say one thing having just come off of [i]Half-Life 2[/i]: I think [i]Halo 2's[/i] story is fantastic, and the way that they blend gameplay between the nemisi seems natural, and by far, is one of the most unique uses of that dramatic tool that I have seen in a long time...you actually want both to win.

The voice acting is great, cutscenes are well paced and not obtrusive, and the story makes me wish I was far better at aiming with a S-controller than I am now...

While [i]Half-Life 2's[/i] graphics were fantastic, I did feel like I was strapped on a train-ride....there was not as much freedom as there was in the original [i]Half-Life[/i]. While the same could be said for [i]Halo 2[/i], the pacing of the game made it such that you never had the time to focus on the fact, so it felt far less like you were on rails (even though you were even moreso).

Anyone else have thoughts on this one?

-R.
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  • Lord RefaLord Refa Creepy, but in a good way
    Havent played neither yet.. did get to go to the Halo 2 launch party here. Free booze, free food.. and a slightly cheaper Halo 2 collectors edition.. (as well as a bland T-shirt with Halo 2 logo)
  • Yes, I love it. I loved the first one too though. I haven't finished Half-Life2 yet, but so far i am not enjoyng it as much as i did Halo 2.
  • RhettRhett (Not even a monkey)
    HAha seriously, I havent bought a console since the original playstation.. and Im being tempted... damn Halo 2... luckily I dont have the $$ anyways :D
  • RickRick Sector 14 Studios
    The Xbox is my first console.

    Ever.

    -R.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    PS2 was my first console ever. I bought it for FFX and modded it for Xenosaga. Haven't regretted either, nor any of the other games I've since played on it. :)

    I haven't played Halo 2 (although I've heard only bad things about the story from various quarters) so I can't comment on that, but I agree about Half-life 2 feeling like being strapped in a train ride. There was significantly less feeling of freedom in it compared with HL1.
  • RubberEagleRubberEagle What's a rubber eagle used for, anyway?
    Halo 2 is definitely better than the first.
    The only things that really bugged me were the flying of the... wraith? you know, the flying thingies... In Halo1, they had a reverse, now they don't... That added to the fact that they don't really feel good to fly, made those sequences really not much fun..
    Spoiler: And the End... What did they think? I mean, a Cliffhanger, when the next game will probably take 3 years until it comes out(I think i heard that bungie won't make Halo 3 their next game... could be wrong of course)....
    That and the godawful german dubbing made my gaming-experience worse than it could have been..
  • MTMT Ranger
    I thought it was ok, though not as great as I was expecting. I wasn't as exciting or intense as the trailers made it look (though, it's hard to impress me in that sense after "Call of Duty," which I guess I'm just going to have to play through again).

    The story was good, though. It didn't get as repetitive as the first game did. And I liked the ending.
  • I refuse to buy any new consoles.

    ever


    I'll let you know what I think of Halo2 in three years when it's out for PC.
  • RubberEagleRubberEagle What's a rubber eagle used for, anyway?
    I'm pretty sure DNF will be released before Halo 2 will be released for PC...
  • E.TE.T Quote-o-matic
    Re: Halo 2

    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Rick [/i]
    [B]While [i]Half-Life 2's[/i] graphics were fantastic, I did feel like I was strapped on a train-ride....there was not as much freedom as there was in the original [i]Half-Life[/i].[/B][/QUOTE]I think it was pretty much as limited in HL1, big part of game just was inside underground complex where you don't expect to have many different routes to other places so it just wasn't so apparent.

    Have you tried FarCry?
    Outside levels of it are outstanding. And same goes for vegetation.
  • CurZCurZ Resident Hippy
    Re: Re: Halo 2

    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by E.T [/i]
    [B]Have you tried FarCry?
    Outside levels of it are outstanding. And same goes for vegetation. [/B][/QUOTE]

    Very true, the outside levels are awesome. Especially with full details at 1600x1200 :whip: (ass)
  • Meh, [i]Far Cry[/i]'s gameplay was fun (until the end... I quit without beating it because it got too tedious fighting those rocket monkeys), but its story was terrible. Half-Life 2 didn't feel restrictive at all... it's all so cinematic, like a highly personalized movie. And the combat is certainly open-ended, thanks to the inclusion of the Gravity Gun. ;)

    As for Halo 2... played it for several hours on a friend's Xbox, and was only slightly more impressed with it than I was with Halo. The vehicles are fun, but the story is terrible and the weapons don't feel right. The only positive thing I have to say about the game is that it wasn't as repetitive as Halo 1, which I consider to be one of the most over-hyped games ever made.
  • I thought the ending in halo 2 was good. It kinda had that middle movie feel, like Empire. Nothing gets resolved in the end of that, and everything has gone to hell, but many consider it the best star wars movie ever made. I think thats the kind of feel they were going for in Halo 2 . Give players something to come back for.
  • TyvarTyvar Next best thing to a St. Bernard
    Halo Rocked, it had a GREAT story.

    Halo 2 Rocks even more! and while I havent seen its campaign mode, in multiplayer head to head it kicks ass.

    Then again there were three X-boxes on three big screen TV's so yeah of course it rocked :D my friends working on a fourth TV box combo so we can do 8 vs 8 :D
  • RickRick Sector 14 Studios
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by the_exile [/i]
    [B]Meh, [i]Far Cry[/i]'s gameplay was fun (until the end... I quit without beating it because it got too tedious fighting those rocket monkeys), but its story was terrible. Half-Life 2 didn't feel restrictive at all... it's all so cinematic, like a highly personalized movie. And the combat is certainly open-ended, thanks to the inclusion of the Gravity Gun. ;)

    As for Halo 2... played it for several hours on a friend's Xbox, and was only slightly more impressed with it than I was with Halo. The vehicles are fun, but the story is terrible and the weapons don't feel right. The only positive thing I have to say about the game is that it wasn't as repetitive as Halo 1, which I consider to be one of the most over-hyped games ever made. [/B][/QUOTE]

    You have to actually play through more than an hour or two of halo2 to be impressed..the story makes no sense at all unless you actually experience it.

    As fort HL1 vs HL2 restriction, I totally disagree. What I mean by "rails" is that there is very little room but to go forward or back on the maps...I remember the underground minecar maps and how you could get lost there in HL1. There were many non-linear branches that let you have many paths through it rather than just one, a craft that the original Deus Ex mastered.

    Now, the graphics were pretty, and the characters were definitely more deep, and the story itself was, well, crafted like an X-files episode (frustrating, but well done), however, HL2's levels are definitely more linear than HL1's are. That bothered me. Allot.

    Re: FarCry: Yes, I finished FarCry. I liked it allot. I just wish it hadn't gone all DooM3 at the end. It was a beautiful engine, and those maps were DEFINITELY not linear. All I would have done to improve it was wrap a little more narrative into it to keep the story compelling...as it was, the story was the weakest part of the game.

    To be honest, I really feel, especially given games like FarCry, Deus Ex, and the original Half-Life, that linear maps are an almost unforgivable shortcoming in modern PC game design...Developers do need to step up and acknowledge that for their game to be great, they have to give at least a little more freedom than the single-path-story.

    IMO :)

    -R.
  • RickRick Sector 14 Studios
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by A2597 [/i]
    [B]I refuse to buy any new consoles.

    ever


    I'll let you know what I think of Halo2 in three years when it's out for PC. [/B][/QUOTE]

    I said the same thing for the last 10 years.

    Then I saw Halo2, and had to give it a try. Seeing as the xbox cost only a little more than a Dolby-capable DVD player, it wasn't really that hard to justify trying it out.

    Consoles are definitely cheaper to upgrade than PCs...that's for sure.

    (stares at GeForce 6800ultra, knowing it will be obsolete by March :eek: )

    -R.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Rick [/i]
    [B](stares at GeForce 6800ultra, knowing it will be obsolete by March :eek: )[/B][/QUOTE]

    Now this, I can definitely agree with. When I bought my PS2, the system had already been out something like 1.5 or 2 years (I don't know exactly when it was first released). I've had it for 2 years. It still isn't anywhere near obselete. The graphics they pull off in the games I play continue to amaze me (just look at [url=http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/jlbiggs/images/xenosaga2.jpg]Xenosaga[/url] [url=http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/jlbiggs/images/xenosaga3.jpg]Ep[/url] [url=http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/jlbiggs/images/xenosaga4.jpg]2[/url] to see why). Sure, they may not be 1600x1200, but they look just fine to me, even on my 21" monitor. I've seen effects done on my PS2 that a top of the line video card could only dream of replicating, thanks to the innovative architecture of the PS2's chipset (I've read published conference papers about it, I know what I'm talking about). Meanwhile, the game design continues to take advantage of the unique nature of consoles to produce excellent games with innovative gameplay (Katamari Damacy, anyone?) and strong stories.

    Frankly, I think refusing to buy a console just because it's a console is silly. Buy what you need to play the good games. Don't not play a game just because it's on a console and not the PC. Don't judge a game by its platform.
  • JamboJambo Scriptkiddie
    Would there be any problems buying an XBox from the US and using it over here? I assume the US models will be NTSC as opposed to PAL, and games bought over here wouldn't work on them, or is my mind just hardwired to a ps2?

    I'm thinking about taking advantage of the weak dollar, a X-Box for £50!
  • Mention of Katamari Damacy triggering relapse... :eek:
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Jambo: you would definitely need a multisync TV so you can see the NTSC signals properly, and I would say you'd need to mod it too if you wanted to play games bought locally.
  • Has anyone else seen the Halo 1 video with the guy blowing up the warthogs on the Silent Cartographer level, and having them fly ridiculous distances( as in from the beach to the top of the map)? I highly recommend it even if you don't play halo. Its hilarious, and the sound effects and music are awesome. Do a search for warthog jump and you'll find it.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    I doubt there's anyone who hasn't seen that video. :D There was even a flash game made, as I recall, although it's nowhere near as fun as the video itself. I love the applause when he gets it over the rock outcrop. :D
  • David of MacDavid of Mac Elite Ranger Ca
    I've seen it. Unable to successfully replicate it, though. ;)
  • for those curious: [url]http://www.warthog-jump.com/[/url]

    the first is by FAR the best. The music clips, the audio clips....all just perfect!
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    You haven't said [b]why[/b] you won't by a console, A#.
  • I was actually able to make the warthog go over the rock once. I never did find out how they got on top of that rock tough.
  • A:@Biggles

    No need for one. Besides, I don't own a TV. As of yet, console graphics are WAY far behind PC games, and limited even further by the TV Itself.

    I'm mainly a flightsim/racing/FPS gamer.
    Racing on consoles is fine. but I have a good control pad for the PC, so no differance.

    Flightsims require a joystick. Good joystick = PC

    FPS = keyboard and mouse. Sure, the PS2 lets you hook up a keyboard and mouse. but ultimately, PC rocks it big time.

    next up: Sound. PC Games = stereo, 4.1, 5.1, 6.1, 7.1 shoot...whatever your soundcard can handle and your game supports.

    console? Stereo. Unless I'm mistaken and they have surround sound? Meh...matters not.

    I have a good PC rig, to get a good console rig I'd have to:

    Buy a good TV
    Buy a nice new sound system
    buy the console
    buy the games

    and end result? I'd never play them. I've had many oppertunities to play console games...and they are never quite as much fun other then the racing games. (I LOVE RIDGE RACER!!!!)
  • I probably wouldn't own a console but for games like [i]Prince of Persia[/i] (quite possibly the most fun I've ever had) and [i]Grand Theft Auto[/i] (driving is infinitely more fun with an analog stick). And [i]Katamari Damacy[/i].
  • Prince of Persia was out for PC as well...
  • RhettRhett (Not even a monkey)
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by A2597 [/i]
    [B]for those curious: [url]http://www.warthog-jump.com/[/url]

    the first is by FAR the best. The music clips, the audio clips....all just perfect! [/B][/QUOTE]

    Hillarious :D
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