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Spammer gets 9 years in jail...

[url]http://www.leesburg2day.com/current.cfm?catid=19&newsid=9671[/url]


My first reaction:

$500,000 A MONTH?!?!?!

Comments

  • FreejackFreejack Jake the Not-so-Wise
    And you know how much he was costing the economy a month, I'd be willing to bet it would be 3-4 times that figure.

    What I am afraid of is that at some point someone is going to attempt to overturn one of these laws, using a first amendment arguement. That said your right to free speech should not be a direct cost to society. For example, if you protest on street corner, it cost little to society to make your voice heard, even if you block a street in a peaceful march, the burden to society is not hard to bear. This person, on the other hand, was costing companies, networks and individuals a serious amount of money, with no real benefit to society.

    Jake
  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    This is purely anecdotal, but...at least during my summer job, Spam became such a large problem (note: I work for a web marketing firm) that the boss plugged nearly $11,000 into spam blocking and virus protection (email and per-computer). It was a total mess, and the entire process was brutal. My mother (also employed at the same company, Database management and data entry) had to put up with thousands upon thousands of spam messages, and any attempt to process around these messages would lead to a number of legitimate messages not making it through. Of course, these messages often were from new customers, and as such, each missed message was potential a customer lost. When you possibly miss three to five messages a day...it adds up. Now, I'm not saying the company was profitable to begin with, but it's still a huge potential loss.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    The idea that spam should be covered by freedom of speech ignores the (in my opinion, rather important) concept that freedom of speech also involves respect for others.
  • FreejackFreejack Jake the Not-so-Wise
    Some would argue porn shows a lack of respect for others, and its protected speech.

    Jake
  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    well...my objection to SPAM being considered free speech is that it costs the people receiving lots of money. Free speech doesn't force expenses onto people without their request.

    When you main out ads you pay postage. When you talk in a park, no one pays anything...unless there is an admission fee...in which case it is there choice.

    But with spam, you are in effect billing your client for their server use.

    This is the core of the stupid MS idea to have a fee on e-mail sending. The problem is there is no possible way of enforcing that!

    I personally prefer an alternate method that would involve the postal system (I don't think anyone has suggested this before):
    - Post office provides each resident of the US a e-mail box based on their name/company and 5-digit zip code (if they move, the address woulc change, but forwarding would be easy).
    - Allow only e-mail from within the system to be sent to clients. No outside ISPs allowed in.
    - Provide something like the land based telephone system - maybe 500 e-mails per month sent out. After which you are billed on a rate per e-mail (or per 100 e-mails) or whatever. The fee would be sufficient to cover excess strain on the servers from bulk e-mailer use.

    Obviously the biggest flaw would be how to deal with e-mails from overseas - and perhaps if other countries adopt a similar method e-mail postal systems could be tied together.

    I dislike the MS idea becuase it would charge per every e-mail. This I feel is wrong. The idea of my system would be that the home users will almost never pay. Small businesses will rarely pay. Large corperations will always pay. Spam companies will always pay.

    --RC
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Freejack [/i]
    [B]Some would argue porn shows a lack of respect for others, and its protected speech.

    Jake [/B][/QUOTE]

    It is possible to argue that, yes, but in general porn is consensual by the parties involved. Spam isn't.
  • [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Freejack [/i]
    [B]Some would argue porn shows a lack of respect for others, and its protected speech.

    Jake [/B][/QUOTE]Porn isn't being nonconsensually shoved down the world's collective throat.
  • FreejackFreejack Jake the Not-so-Wise
    Don't get me wrong, I like porn as much as the next guy, I was just pointing out that free speech often doesn't cover expressions we like or happen to respect our beliefs.

    As far a spam as protected speech, I doubt it would come to a lawsuit, but if it does, I would hope it the powers that be recognize that it should not be protected by the first admendment.

    Jake
  • E.TE.T Quote-o-matic
    RC, that wouldn't still solve the real problem, lot of current viruses are used to make zombie PC networks which can be used to things like spamming and DOS attacks.

    It's just matter of making punishment hard enough compared to profits of spamming.
    I bet that few public executions of makers of these viruses and their economical backers would solve most of the problem much easier.

    Or I could think some other creative ways...:shadow2:
  • Vertigo1Vertigo1 Official Fuzzy Dice of FirstOnes.com
    I'm waiting for spammers to get the death penalty. :)
  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Vertigo1 [/i]
    [B]I'm waiting for spammers to get the death penalty. :) [/B][/QUOTE]

    In piles of paper from bulk mailings! :D
  • E.TE.T Quote-o-matic
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Random Chaos [/i]
    [B]In piles of paper from bulk mailings! :D [/B][/QUOTE]
    What about electric chair controlled by computer monitoring some email accounts?
    Every time new spam message arrives it would give shock with bigger voltage and frequency. (starting from 50V and couple Hzs)
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