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Bush wins re-election!

Theres no denying it at this point, he has Ohio. There simply is no statistical possibility of Kerry getting enough votes from the Absentee ballots to make a difference.

Bush is leading by 135,000 votes in Ohio,
there are 175,000 absentee votes.

bush only needs 23% of those to be for him to win.

since the state is ~50/50 and since the absentee votes have always reflected the same percentage ratio, Bush holds Ohio and thus the election.

Good race guys, I'm glad it's over...

<- is sick of all the political phone calls...
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  • ShadowDancerShadowDancer When I say, "Why aye, gadgie," in my heart I say, "Och aye, laddie." London, UK
    we (the world) are sooo screwed!
  • SquidgySquidgy Earthforce Officer
    I am so moving to Australia.
  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    A2597 - there are also arround 250,000 provisional ballots in Ohio...and we have no idea if they will even be counted...
  • Falcon1Falcon1 Elite Ranger
    It ain't over until the fat Pakmara sings bascially.
  • shadow boxershadow boxer The Finger Painter & Master Ranter
    Ahash... the mental image I get of you is this :

    A guy toasting marshmallows on a funeral pyre. Perhaps even unaware that its his brothers bones that are fueling the fire in front on him.

    ~~~~

    Thanks to the collective fucktard that is the Bush voter, the world is going to go to hell.

    Bush runs on ignorance, on fear bourne of that ignorance. He'll continue to lead the ignorant insular majority that is the collective US psyche into a myopic, blinkered, comfortable miasmic existence, until he can no longer paper over the cracks in the nation. Too many people love the status quo until its so dead and smelly even the maggots lose interest.

    The USA will implode, or it will start wars and eventually be humbled when the rest of world decides to teach Goliath a lesson in humility.

    All I can say to the good people left in the USA is either leave, or secede from the Union, perhaps state by state. The US Gov is so corrupt, unwieldy and immoral only a nice good old fashioned revolution will clean it out.

    9/11 was supposed to be a wakeup call, a very twisted and quite evil wakeup call none the less. The message was, "Hey, you big dopey bully, it's time you woke up and realised that the world doesn't end just beyond the 12 mile limit off the coast of Maine or Washington State. Being the biggest doesnt automatically make you right, justified or righteous in everything you do."

    Typically though... the wakeup call didn't work, Uncle Sam just rolled over and hit Snooze... decided he didn't want to wake up from his self imposed coma and realise he was part of a much larger world. Learn such things as the difference between a Shi-ite and Sunni Muslim, not just that Muslims dont just come in beards and towel headed A-Rabs models. That there are other ways to live outside capitalistic democracy, that some people have ideas somewhat different to that of the USA.

    In short, Osama stabs you guys in the guts and you stick your head further up your arse...

    ...that defies logic and makes me physically sick.

    Uncle Sam instead of thinking, " Well gee, despite all the other excuses and stuff, I really have pissed off these guys enough for them to want to hurt me, and not only that, kill themselves in the process. I wonder why exactly that is ? Have I done something someone might think is worng, even if I dont think its wrong ?" , sits down and draws up a shitlist, of people to get even with, people to teach a lesson in democracy and the way things should be done.

    Dont you get it ? Dont you see the underlying problem here ? You pricks are just plain pig ignorant, arrogant fucks who delight in imagining sunlight pours from your sphincters. Who delight in being the biggest prick in the school yard, even if you dont beat everyone up you sure as hell make your presence felt, flexing your muscles and strutting around.

    You dont seriously give a shit about anyone but yourself. That's your single biggest problem. Your collective psyche is almost totally self absorbed. Whats worse is this is almost a deliberate willful ignorance. That's what got Bush elected. Ultra conservatism, wanting to remain exactly as you are as a nation.

    You think I'm being harsh ?

    Osama flew two planes into the WTC...

    ... somehow you've managed to completely mangle, disregard or willfully ignore the message.

    You are not perfect, you SUCK, in alot of ways. DO something about it ! NOW ! Work out what it actually means to be a member of the world and the human race.


    ~~~~~~~

    I posited something with some pals earlier today. Namely this :

    All states that voted Bush, form a nation, all those that voted Kerry, form another.

    Then watch CUSA, the conservative United States of America dissapear up its own arse inside perhaps a decade.

    LUSA, governed by Kerry will then go on to propser as a nation of genuine citizens of Earth.
  • Data CrystalData Crystal Pencil Artist
    When it comes to the people that voted for Bush... amen to what sb here said.

    I seriously can't believe that people can be so stupid as to give that self-righteous baboon another run at the office.

    Half the nation got it right in my books, the rest... are there THAT MANY rednecks there? I can't say I'd watched the opposing forces' (;)) agendas with fierce interest, but hell, almost anything is better than what Bush does and is going to do.

    I'm pretty certain, that this will lead to more terrorist acts and thus lead to Bush strengthening his grip on the country...

    You're screwed, mates.
  • Falcon1Falcon1 Elite Ranger
    One thing I've noticed from watching coverage at this end was how some people interviewed referred to Bush as 'cockey'... if they realise this and since his entire approach is based around this attitude, I can't understand why so many are voting for him. I just don't get this idea that the US is gonna go it alone and that alliances with other nations are not important. Right now the free nations need to be as allied as never before otherwise terrorism is going to succeed in dividing us all.

    It saddens me to think how so much progress was made under the Clinton administration, i.e. with Israel and particular Northern Ireland... and how long did it take for Bush and his bunch to wreck it all?? Makes me wish Clinton stayed on for a 2nd term.
  • JamboJambo Scriptkiddie
    Clinton did stay on for a second term.
  • Falcon1Falcon1 Elite Ranger
    He did? Damn... they should have offered him a 3rd term! :D
  • Reaver4kReaver4k Trainee in training
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ShadowDancer [/i]
    [B]we (the world) are sooo screwed! [/B][/QUOTE]

    We so are...

    Two more Wars, Two more Wars.
  • WORFWORF The Burninator
    I agree with Shadow Boxer.

    I think sooner or later Bush will push the world too far and the world will push back, hard.

    Personally I think it will come from [URL=http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/news_web/video/40454000/bb/40454793_bb_16x9.asx]this[/URL] (streaming video from the BBC).

    For those of you who don't want to stream it, basically it talks about a Satellite Communication network being developed by Europe, Russia and China. They have all agreed that it won't be used to spy on or jam communications in enemy countries.

    Despite that, Bush has said if he doesn't like how it gets used, he is perfectly willing to order an attack to destroy it and that he thinks conflict in space is inevitable.

    Personally, I think that if that happens, that Europe, Russia and China will actively turn against the US and it could even lead to war.

    The reason for that is, Bush would have shown that he has no problem attacking his allies and the various governments involved wouldn't want their countries to be attacked.

    He would have against almost the entire civilized (as opposed to the third world who don't have the ability to fight back) world closing in on him.

    Maybe it won't come from the satellite situation but it will happen, it's just a matter of time.

    Worf
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Kerry has apparently [url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6363692/]conceded[/url]. I congratulate him on being the better person.
    However, I also say goodbye free USA and free world. Welcome to Bush's world, where everything is how [b]he[/b] wants it and there is no other way to live.

    SB: For once you and I are in nearly perfect agreement. I couldn't have said it better myself (although probably with less swearing).
    I also partially agree with Worf. Bush is going to go too far some time in the next 4 years, and the rest of the world is going to point out the mistake. If you want to play at being the "leader of the free world" then you do it like a leader, not a dictator. Bush doesn't seem capable of that.
  • :rolleyes: at the paranoid bitching and "end of goliath" predictions in this thread.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Lennier [/i]
    [B]:rolleyes: at the paranoid bitching and "end of goliath" predictions in this thread. [/B][/QUOTE]

    Then let me ask you a question. How do you feel about what has happened to the USA's reputation in the world over the past 4 years? How do you feel about what is most likely going to happen to it over the next 4?
  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    Bush unleased. He doesn't have to worry about reelection.

    I look forward to the day when our history books look back at this sad time.
  • Rogue TraderRogue Trader Somebody stop him...
    isnt it a little childish and cowardly and againest democracy that if the guy you wanted loses you put your tail between your legs and run?

    in a democracy the other guy wins sometimes to.
  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    Here is the thing, this isn't just anyone. I don't know of any single person that has caused so much damage.
  • TyvarTyvar Next best thing to a St. Bernard
    Its funny how if people start repeating something often enough they think its true.


    Myself, A# and the other conservatives have just been personally attacked by many of you, due to the fact that we have disagreements of philophy, ideology and ultimatly on the nature of man.

    You should look at your rhetoric, promising wars based on fear, just as you accused bush of doing, and wonder, just who is going to create the world of 1984?
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    I have no problem with people being conservative, nor do I have a problem with Bush being democratically elected, as he was (I may not like the outcome, but I can't have a problem with it since it's what the majority of Americans appear to want). I admit that what I said earlier was probably a bit rash (hey, I'd just woken up and it was unhappy news in the morning - I guess I only agree with SB when I'm not thinking straight ;)). My problem with Bush is almost solely based on his attitude of being the only one who's right when dealing with the rest of the world (he's not the only one guilty of this either), and feeling that he needs to change the rest of the world. I've said it before: leave them alone until they're ready to be helped. If the middle east whats to develop nuclear weapons and have a little nuclear war with itself, let it. Let them learn their lesson that way. They won't learn it just because the "free" world rolls on in with tanks and guns, or even trade sanctions. Of course, as usual (gah), this is where oil comes into the picture, but we'll leave that for another discussion. If Bush would put less effort on trying to convert the middle east to western ideals and instead put effort into removing dependance on that region, it would help things a lot. But I do think that if Bush continues the way he has been then it will piss off many other nations enough for them to do something equally stupid. I do stand by my statement that "if you want to play at being leader of the free world, don't be a dictator" though.
  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    My problems with Bush have always been two-fold:
    - His ideology clashes with mine - we have almost nothing in common as to how we view the US and the world...beyond wanting the best, in our opinion, for our country
    - His decision making method I think tends to marginalize alternate opinions

    That being said - I sure wish Kerry had won, but it is clear he didn't. It is also good that the election won't be contested. I dislike almost every decision Bush has made in the 1st half of 2001 and after mid 2002. Those decisions made in responce to 9/11 were the only decisions I fully supported him on.

    The question really is: How much of this ultra-conservative stuff in the last year is election propaganda and how much does Bush really plan to put through? Look at all the things that got shoved under the carpet once he took office? He pulled most of them back out in the last year - just enough to tease people. Will he shove them back under again? Or will he try to push them through?

    What concerns me is the later - it will only increase the divide in this country. What I hope is he really doesn't believe that most of these outrageous ideas really are good for the country. Based on what I have seen - I think he might believe they aren't good. Since he doesn't have a reelection, it might be that he doesn't care about things that support his base as much anymore.

    We know that Cheney has no plans to run in 2008 - so based on that - there is no reason for him to really pander to his base anymore. He can afford to take a more moderate stance and try and reconsile differences in the country. Let us hope that he takes the high road and tries to bridge divides this time.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    We can but hope.
  • BekennBekenn Sinclair's Duck
    Hey, SB, I'll post you a bucket of cold water.

    My treat this time.
  • I have to agree with Lennier, to some extent; Bush is [i]not[/i] the greatest president ever--in fact he is the [i]worst[/i] president in this country's history, but he is not so repugnant as to merit revolution, as SB has suggested. I do not support him, nor do I consider myself a supporter of Kerry; I feel that much of the blame for winning Bush a second term goes to the Democrats for giving us such a weak candidate. I really, really like Edwards, and would like to see him run for office in 2008, as I would like to see Dean or even Hillary Clinton.

    That said, I don't like the direction in which America is headed. Republicans control the Executive and Legislative branches, and three Supreme Court justices are likely to retire within the next four years (Rehnquist, Stevens, O'Connor), giving Bush a chance to appoint three Republican Justices who will be with us for the next thirty years--a Constitutional ban on gay marriage seems inevitable, and a reversal of [i]Roe v. Wade[/i] may soon follow.

    Further, Bush no longer has to fear comitting political suicide by reinstating the Draft...
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Shouldn't you be writing a novel? ;)

    I don't really think Bush will cause a revolution either. In general Americans are probably too lazy. ;) But moreso, they know he'll be gone in 4 years. It's not like he's around for as long as he's alive.
  • [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Biggles [/i]
    [B]Then let me ask you a question. How do you feel about what has happened to the USA's reputation in the world over the past 4 years? How do you feel about what is most likely going to happen to it over the next 4? [/B][/QUOTE]


    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Biggles [/i]
    [B]But moreso, they know he'll be gone in 4 years. It's not like he's around for as long as he's alive. [/B][/QUOTE]


    Answered your own question. I voted Kerry BTW, but that doesn't mean I condone all this naysaying and predictions of doom.
  • [B][size=9]WOOOOOOOOOOT!!!![/size][/B]

    Kerry loses! GREAT day for America, the LAST thing this nation needed was a creep like Kerry in office! I am so incredibly thankful that he decided to conceed rather then fight like Gore did. That almost gave me one thread of respect for him. Almost.

    And SB, you know that everything you said was bullocks, and you know that I personally am an educated person. I could sit here and argue your points, but we both know that doing so would not change anyones opinions.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Lennier [/i]
    [B]Answered your own question. I voted Kerry BTW, but that doesn't mean I condone all this naysaying and predictions of doom. [/B][/QUOTE]

    The problem is that reputations, while they can change for the worse in a matter of minutes, they don't heal as fast as presidents change.
  • TyvarTyvar Next best thing to a St. Bernard
    You know having had some dealings with the whole repub party on a local level, and being in sync with the party

    the draft SO IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

    That entire thing is a piece of democratic propoganda.

    You want to know the real reason why its not going to happen, the volunteer force is 60% republican at least, and the combat arms (infantry, armor and artillery) are even more heavily republican. Any institution of the draft would dilute the republican powerbase in the military.

    There now you know the dirty secret as to why a republican president will not reinstate the draft short of a massive war with china or something.

    In the mean time the Military is meeting is enlistment goals.
  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    I still hold my ground that bush is incompetant (he got a C average in a school where the grade inflation causes 75% of the student body to have at least a 3.0 GPA) AND he is a man of little moral value.

    Like I said. I await the day when his gradchild comes over to visit, and tell him all the things that the child learned today in school about the first decade of the 21st century. It will be bliss.

    I love karma.


    Also, despite that the far far right now has the white house, congress, and soon the court, they are STILL bitching.

    Also, dont forget. A vote for bush is also a vote for asscroft.


    I lookforward to 2008 when I can point the finger at everyone and say "I told you so"

    This nation deserves what it coming to it.
  • StrikerStriker Provided with distinction
    *grabs some popcorn*

    This is one thread I'm staying out of. :)
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