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Freedom of the Press

BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
The latest survey of press freedom all over the world is now [url=http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=11715]available[/url].

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  • Reaver4kReaver4k Trainee in training
    Freedom of the Press is a Joke....

    Now Freedoom of the Free Press if differnt..

    What sucks is canada is 18th:(
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Freedom of the press is not a joke, Simmonds.
  • Reaver4kReaver4k Trainee in training
    You are aware I was joking, are you Biggles.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Given what you usually say around here and the lack of any smilies other than ":(" in your post (on a different statement), no.
  • E.TE.T Quote-o-matic
    [url]http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2004/10/06/no-longer-obeying-orders/[/url]
    Says it all.


    "When any government, or any church for that matter, undertakes to say to its subjects, This you may not read, this you must not see, this you are forbidden to know, the end result is tyranny and oppression no matter how holy the motives."
    -Robert A. Heinlein
    So what was Dubya doing?
  • An ex-SquidAn ex-Squid Elite Ranger
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by E.T [/i]
    [B][url]http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2004/10/06/no-longer-obeying-orders/[/url]
    Says it all.[/B][/QUOTE]
    It sure does. That's why I'll never completely trust whatever the "mainstream" news media says about any given subject unless I've got a way to confirm what they're saying.
  • Vertigo1Vertigo1 Official Fuzzy Dice of FirstOnes.com
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by An ex-Squid [/i]
    [B]It sure does. That's why I'll never completely trust whatever the "mainstream" news media says about any given subject unless I've got a way to confirm what they're saying. [/B][/QUOTE]

    Especially after the CBS fiasco...
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by An ex-Squid [/i]
    [B]It sure does. That's why I'll never completely trust whatever the "mainstream" news media says about any given subject unless I've got a way to confirm what they're saying. [/B][/QUOTE]

    Yeah, things like Mt St Helens blowing up aren't as difficult to verify unless you live far enough away... :p
  • StrikerStriker Provided with distinction
    Re: Freedom of the Press

    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Biggles [/i]
    [B]The latest survey of press freedom all over the world is now [url=http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=11715]available[/url]. [/B][/QUOTE]

    I'm not putting much faith in that report. Their reasons for lower ranks in a lot of countries is very weak at best IMHO.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Such as?
  • Reaver4kReaver4k Trainee in training
    Re: Re: Freedom of the Press

    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Striker [/i]
    [B]I'm not putting much faith in that report. Their reasons for lower ranks in a lot of countries is very weak at best IMHO. [/B][/QUOTE]

    So the States should be number 1 no matter what?
  • PJHPJH The Lovely Thing
    Hehehehe......

    - PJH
  • MTMT Ranger
    Is there any way to see the questionare used for the index? After reading about how it evaluated Canada and the United States and gave us 18 and 21, I want to know what it cares to look for and consider.

    Having been a reporter and editor and having worked with other editors as well as photographers for all sorts of assignments, I've yet to hear any complaints, or run into any unreasonable obstacles. In fact, the only restriction I've run into in 2 years is not being able to cross a police line while the cops were still investigating a crime scene -- which I don't see as a problem. The police have always been helpful. None of our photographers have ever run into any trouble at anti-USA(pro-Hawaiian Sovregenty) or anti-Stryker protests. I've always gotten access to information I've needed. I haven't had any problem with getting interviews with soldiers deployed in Iraq, and neither has any other of our writers.

    If there's any percieved barriers for free press in the United States and Canada, except in perhaps isolated incidents, I can't imagine why it would come from anyone that either doesn't like their country for unrelated reasons, or has done something extremely moronic/unethical and then rightly got in trouble for it.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    I think perhaps you are overreacting to the #22 ranking. There are a lot of countries on that list, and being at #22 doesn't really mean all that much (particularly when you consider it in grouped placings, where the US comes at #11). It probably just means there were a couple of incidents where problems occured, whereas the countries above had none of those incidents.
  • RhettRhett (Not even a monkey)
    I agree with MT though, it still would be nice to see how the rankings were determined...
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Yeah, it would. I'm still trying to figure out what the notes column means.
    I suspect the rankings are determined by looking at recorded events in each country rather than a survey, judging by the comments for each country, but it may be both.
  • MTMT Ranger
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Biggles [/i]
    [B]It probably just means there were a couple of incidents where problems occured, whereas the countries above had none of those incidents. [/B][/QUOTE]

    Yeah, but at the same time, it's kind of important to know if there were any opportunities for those incidents to play out in the other countries if they're going to judge freedom of the press by them.

    They cite a journalist's house getting raided in Canada, but not why it was raided, or if another journalist in Denmark or wherever did the same thing but didn't get their house raided.

    I hate indexes/polls/surveys, etc...
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