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hmmm... a thought

shadow boxershadow boxer The Finger Painter & Master Ranter
lets say some version of ITF 'phoenixes'...

would the Firstones meld with Sector 14 or its new equivalent ?

As in this very site gets glommed onto/absorbed by the new ITF entity ?
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  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    Creag:

    Are you home yet?

    You'll be labled the Wizard of Oz, if you pull this off...

    [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
  • shadow boxershadow boxer The Finger Painter & Master Ranter
    a bit over a week mate.... chill... [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
  • samuelksamuelk The Unstoppable Mr. 'K'
    Are you saying that if ITF rises from the ashes, so to speak, that FirstOnes.Com would be "owned" by Sector 14?

    I'm not sure what you're asking.
  • WarleaderWarleader Inmate: Babylon Project Mental Health Facility
    I WILL STAND BY YOU FOREEEEEEEVVVVVER!!... YOU CAN TAKE MY BREATH AWAY!!
  • PJHPJH The Lovely Thing
    Ok.

    - PJH
  • Damn it's good to have warleader back.

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  • His singing skills hasn't improved one bit.

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  • StrikerStriker Provided with distinction
    Gah...he's singing?! [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/eek.gif[/img]

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  • MessiahMessiah Failed Experiment
    Hmmm, just a thought. When will the B5:ITF things that were finished become abandonware?

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  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Yeah. I know it's hard to tell, but he is.

    SB: I think firstones.com would remain a separate entity, the main fan site. This would protect it from any bad events and also allow it to be an outside perspective.

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  • C_MonC_Mon A Genuine Sucker
    [quote]Originally posted by Striker:
    [b]Gah...he's singing?! [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/eek.gif[/img]

    [/b][/quote]

    Yeah, can't you hear it?



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  • shadow boxershadow boxer The Finger Painter & Master Ranter
    good point... distance is a good thing in some circumstances but I guess it would be nice to not have any server or net problems with a nice friendly company to repay what will be a considerable debt to the Firstones.

    ( No offence Striker, your efforts at securing all things cyber is duly noted and richly appreciated by me and no doubt the rest of the Firstones. )

    IF ITF ever 'did the Jesus thing'... I'm sure there would be a rack of hard drives waiting for Warleader to CAPITALISE to death.. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img] ( while the rest of us get stuff in sideways [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img] )
  • shadow boxershadow boxer The Finger Painter & Master Ranter
    thats the thing with abandonware...

    really as far as I can see abandonware is software that either has no remaining fiscal value or sentimental value to those who made it or those same people who made it have a scorched earth policy.

    any of those reasons are what makes former owners/developers litigious...

    no-one likes to see someone else profit from thier work...

    and some people get very passionate about things they did in the past...

    and some people bear malice and grudges to the grave...

    There is also apathy, preservation of ones own skin by not scratching at old corporate wounds, pride...


    In ITF's case, no-one... absolutely no-one knows where Seirra/Havas sits in reference to the above pidgeon holes. They may be sitting in several at once.

    No entreaty by anyone so far has even has even been graced by an answer.

    Perhaps that would change if the persons/person who approached them had very deep pockets.

    at this point the key issue is the footage shot for the game. Basically everything else is replacable. It doesnt really fall easily into the category of traditonal abandonware.

    Put it this way, if a company somehow managed to secure said footage and proceeded to plug it into a new game...without asking for a release first...

    would the sleeping giant that is Sierra awaken to wreak its terrible wrath ?

    The holy grail in this messy situation is someone in Sierra who is willing to help.

    We need a mole.
  • Entil'ZhaEntil'Zha I see famous people
    [quote]Originally posted by shadow boxer:
    [b]We need a mole.[/b][/quote]

    A girl called me a rat once, is that close enough?
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    You've left out a large portion of the equation though SB...

    Warner Bros.
  • shadow boxershadow boxer The Finger Painter & Master Ranter
    yeah true... but they talk.... they are not like the Stone heads of Chistmas islands...

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  • RhettRhett (Not even a monkey)
    Is it just me or do I smell a plan that has been in the worksor a while? Someone is doing something here... [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]

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  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    What are you trying to say Rhett?

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  • If this cloak and dagger stuff doesn't work, we always have geeks with guns.



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  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Hehe...

    rhett: Possibly. Possibly quite some time. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]

    SB: Server space would be good possibly. Depends on how things work out. But the site itself should remain as independant as possible.

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    The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

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  • shadow boxershadow boxer The Finger Painter & Master Ranter
    certainly biggles... how would Firstones be able to offer glowing and independent reports and testimonials without being an totally independent and unassociated group

    COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Exactly. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]

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    [b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
    Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
    The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • RhettRhett (Not even a monkey)
    I knew you bastards were planning something [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img] Well, you have full support! Good Job!

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  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    Well, I'm sure not in on it! I'm sure Biggles is just as confused as I am. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    "You are transparent... I see plans within plans... You must share with us..."

    -3rd grade aligator to the Emperor Shazzzam! the 14th...
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Oh yes, I'm very confused. Such a confused I person am.

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    Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
    The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • samuelksamuelk The Unstoppable Mr. 'K'
    [quote]Originally posted by JackN:
    [b]"You are transparent... I see plans within plans... You must share with us..."

    -3rd grade aligator to the Emperor Shazzzam! the 14th...[/b][/quote]

    HAHAHA
  • RigsRigs Earthforce Officer
    Um, what does JMS say about this masterpiece being locked in the closet by Sierra? Does he care it was never finished? Doesn't he have any pull with them to finish it? Can't we ask for him to see into it? I guess I just don't understand why this has to be so difficult...

    =-Rigs-=

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  • shadow boxershadow boxer The Finger Painter & Master Ranter
    rigs,

    nothing of any merit comes easy...
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