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Space: The doomed frontier?

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First Hubble servicing missions

Then the TRMM weather Satellite ( [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60421-2004Jul18.html[/url] )

[b]Now NASA budget:[/b] [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3912095.stm[/url]



Oh - and take a look at this cartoon while you are at it:
[url]http://www.ucomics.com/tomtoles/2004/07/20/[/url]



Let us hope they get back on the idea that "science is good" sometime in the next few years...

Comments

  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Doomed for the US government, that's for sure. This just shows how important projects like SpaceShipOne are.
  • Captain,SimmondsCaptain,Simmonds Trainee trainee
    Well they need the money to Bomb the shit out of Counrtys., People want Blood these days, not snooping around in the Solar System:(

    There are other Space agancys other then NASA.
  • StrikerStriker Provided with distinction
    Such is life. :(

    Politicians won't spend the money or support something unless it proves beneficial to THEM.

    I just wish someone would get up and say "ENOUGH!". Time for us to start working together again like we did in the 1940s. Honestly, the United States has the ability to achieve huge strides in technology, exploration, etc., but it seems the majority of politicians like the current situation fine.

    I'm not putting down any of the current projects going on, but it's time we start devoting money, material, resources, etc. to help improve mankind on a wide basis.

    Hell, computers and technology jumped light years when the moon landing initiative was announced. All it takes is money and time...that's all it takes.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    The problem is that most politicians are unwilling to commit to something that will come completely to fruition in their current term. If they do, and they arn't around when it proves to be a great success, there is a chance that whoever is handling it at the time will get the credit, not whoever said it was a good idea and did the hard work to get the ball rolling 20 years earlier.
  • NorlionNorlion Earthforce Officer
    Buy stock in SpaceDev and Scaled Composites. The private industry will take off and leave the government in the dust. Weren't scared to take risks in the 1950's and 1960's, but what happened? Lunar metal weren't good enough. I would like to see an enhanced space program, but NASA thought space tourism was a sellout. I'd take anything to increase the influx to money to expand space missions. Private industry will conquer space unless the goverment starts moving and I don't see it happening.
  • WORFWORF The Burninator
    Perhaps it is better for companies to control space, that way no government can use their control of space for military purposes (orbital bombardment etc)

    Worf
  • Instead the companies who make space their business can do just that, and turn us into a united, megacapitalistic society.
  • PhiPhi <font color=#FF0000>C</font><font color=#FF9900>o</font><font color=#FFFF00>l</font><font color=#00F
    Someone's been reading Snow Crash ;)

  • What I wouldn't give for a Rat Thing...
  • Does anyone find parts of this quote from Capricorn One appropriate at a time like this?

    [i]Okay, here it is. I have to start by saying that if there was any other way, if there was even a slight chance of another alternative, I would give anything not to be here with you now. Anything. Bru, how long have we known each other? Sixteen years. That's how long. Sixteen years. You should have seen yourself then. You looked like you just walked out of a Wheaties box. And me, all sweaty palm and deadly serious. I told everybody about this dream I had of conquering the new frontier, and they all looked at me like I was nuts. You looked at me and said, "yes." I remember when you told me Kay was pregnant. We went out and got crocked. I remember when Charles was born. We went out and got crocked again. The two of us. Captain Terrific and the Mad Doctor, talking about reaching the stars, and the bartender telling us maybe we'd had enough. Sixteen years. And then Armstrong stepped out on the Moon, and we cried. We were so proud. Willis, you and Walker, you came in about then. Both bright and talented wise-asses, looked at me in my wash-and-wear shirt carrying on this hot love affair with my slide-rule, and even you were caught up in what we'd done. I remember when Glenn made his first orbit in Mercury, they put up television sets in Grand Central Station, and tens of thousands of people missed their trains to watch. You know, when Apollo 17 landed on the Moon, people were calling up the networks and bitching because reruns of I Love Lucy were cancelled. Reruns, for Christ's sake! I could understand if it was the new Lucy show. After all, what's a walk on the Moon? But reruns! Oh, geez! And then suddenly everybody started talking about how much everything cost. Was it really worth twenty billion to go to another planet? What about cancer? What about the slums? How much does it cost? How much does any dream cost, for Christ's sake? Since when is there an accountant for ideas?[/i]
  • SpiritOneSpiritOne Magneto ABQ NM
    perfect
  • The Cabl3 GuyThe Cabl3 Guy Elite Ranger
    It seems like the whole world is folding in on itself wtf is going on.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Personally, I blame the templars.
  • [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by The Cabl3 Guy [/i]
    [B]It seems like the whole world is folding in on itself wtf is going on. [/B][/QUOTE]Euclid's laws have been repealed.
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Biggles [/i]
    [B]Personally, I blame the templars. [/B][/QUOTE]The Templar saved the Human race by creating their Dyson spheres. :alien:
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    35 damn years since the Moon Landing, and WTF have we done since?!?! :mad:
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Killed each other in new and more efficient ways.
  • E.TE.T Quote-o-matic
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Biggles [/i]
    [B]Killed each other in new and more efficient ways. [/B][/QUOTE]
    And created system which subjects nations and people under current "Holy Trinity" ("free" market, capitalism and rule of money/big corporations) for making maximum profits.

    Well, it was that way even at that time but today it's much more emphasized.


    [url]http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/FreeTrade/Neoliberalism.asp[/url]
    Recommended reading:
    [url]http://cyberjournal.org/cj/rkm/WE/jun00Matrix.shtml[/url]
  • Captain,SimmondsCaptain,Simmonds Trainee trainee
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JackN [/i]
    [B]
    35 damn years since the Moon Landing, and WTF have we done since?!?! :mad:
    [/B][/QUOTE]

    we have sent out probes!!!!... and put a pile of Statiles in orbit and Learned about about out planet,
  • bobobobo (A monkey)
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JackN [/i]
    [B]
    35 damn years since the Moon Landing, and WTF have we done since?!?! :mad:
    [/B][/QUOTE]
    Taken 2 steps backwards, realized that governments are not going to get us into space, let the technology mature, and started on the path of space exploration by private citizens and organizations.

    I'm fearing I wont feel zero-g, but I'm more confident my grand children will.
  • Captain,SimmondsCaptain,Simmonds Trainee trainee
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by bobo [/i]
    [B]started on the path of space exploration by private citizens and organizations.
    [/B][/QUOTE]

    Looks like space is going to be for the Rich and Rich funded:(.... Not for everone like it should:(....
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by bobo [/i]
    [B]I'm fearing I wont feel zero-g, but I'm more confident my grand children will. [/B][/QUOTE]

    The day SpaceShipOne reached space, I finally knew for sure that I will make it there myself, one way or another.
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