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B5/Next Gen Hmmm

Entil'ZhaEntil'Zha I see famous people
I hate to think that anything in B5 was taken from Next Gen. BUT, I happend to be watching Next Gen last night, And the episode where Picard is captured and tortured by the cardassians was on (THERE ARE 4 LIGHTS), The Dialogue that the Cardiassian Captor uses at the beginning, is almost identical to the interragator in Intersections in realtime " "Do you have any allergies or illnesses I should be aware of? Are you currently taking any medication?" it was almost word for word.
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  • Standard Proccedure??
  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    They're not copying one or another. It just serves to give the interragator a slightly more "formal" and "friendly" appearance, perhaps to make those being questioned just a little more trustworthy.

    It just sounds like standard procedure to me.

    Also, that episode of TNG is one of my favorites. It's simply great how well it was all done.
  • samuelksamuelk The Unstoppable Mr. 'K'
    What makes you think the TNG writers came up with that line? They didn't.

    Interrogators need to keep their prisoners alive in order to extract information. They use all kinds of methods to extract information (torture, drugs, psychological conditioning, etc.).

    When an interrogator asks about allergies, he wants to make sure he doesn't give the prisoner a drug/food that could kill him/her through an allergic reaction.

    As for the illness question, if a prisoner has an illness from which he/she could possibly die if not given certain drugs or treatment, the interrogator needs to know this in order to keep the prisoner alive.

    It is, in fact, standard procedure.

    [This message has been edited by samuelk (edited 01-05-2002).]
  • David of MacDavid of Mac Elite Ranger Ca
    How many Cardassian POWs does it take to change a lightbulb?

    Four, because THERE... ARE... [b]FOUR[/b]... LIGHTS!!!!!!!
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [b]THREE![/b]

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  • Actually, this idea ("How many ... do you see?") goes back at least to George Orwell's "1984".

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  • samuelksamuelk The Unstoppable Mr. 'K'
    [quote]Originally posted by Language of Hope:
    [b]Actually, this idea ("How many ... do you see?") goes back at least to George Orwell's "1984".

    [/b][/quote]

    Although the lights issue isn't what we're talking about, that kind of thing goes back further than [i]1984[/i]. It's a cue to the interrogator that the prisoner has been broken. Convincing the prisoner that he sees what is not there, is the sign that he can be "reprogrammed" if necessary.
  • eamonmcaeamonmca Earthforce Officer
    [quote]Originally posted by Entil'Zha:
    [b]"Do you have any allergies or illnesses I should be aware of? Are you currently taking any medication
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    Yeah - im going to go with the "its a standard procedure" group, because my pharmacist asked me the exact same things this morning. - (except they said 'any [i]other[/i] medication' , since it was a pharmacy, yknow...)
  • @eamonmca: How was your interrogation that followed? I hope you have been treated well... [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]

    @samuelk: Your right, that's what it *means*. I just wanted to add a piece of art where this is shown before the ST:TNG scene [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img].

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    No matter the pain, no matter the darkness, no matter the loss, no matter the fear. .. We are one.
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  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    eamonmca's interrogation went well, thank you. He broke with a minimum of fuss, did not attempt to escape and gave us all the information we requested. Sanfam feels that he will make an excellent spy.

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    Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
    The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • samuelksamuelk The Unstoppable Mr. 'K'
    So I guess that means Biggles is a pharmacist.
  • eamonmcaeamonmca Earthforce Officer
    Damned truth drugs... [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
  • Entil'ZhaEntil'Zha I see famous people
    [quote]Originally posted by eamonmca:
    [b] Yeah - im going to go with the "its a standard procedure" group, because my pharmacist asked me the exact same things this morning. - (except they said 'any [i]other[/i] medication' , since it was a pharmacy, yknow...)[/b][/quote]

    I don't buy the "standard procedure" line, since there is more in common between the eps, i was just using that as an example.

    I'm not usually one who says they are copying eachother, or who really cares, but when its word for word, that piques my interest.

    and, No, i'm sorry, There are 5 lights.
    Time for you to get back in your shackles for a bit [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
  • samuelksamuelk The Unstoppable Mr. 'K'
    [quote]Originally posted by Entil'Zha:
    [b] I don't buy the "standard procedure" line, since there is more in common between the eps, i was just using that as an example.

    I'm not usually one who says they are copying eachother, or who really cares, but when its word for word, that piques my interest.

    and, No, i'm sorry, There are 5 lights.
    Time for you to get back in your shackles for a bit [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]

    [/b][/quote]


    Read what I said above, and it'll make sense. It [i]is[/i] standard procedure. Interrogators HAVE to keep their subjects alive. They need to know to avoid giving any drug to the prisoner that might cause an allergic reaction, or if he needs certain medication to stay alive.

    Think about it: In a situation like that, someone spent a LOT of time and money capturing one person... the interrogator wouldn't look so bright if the prisoner died from an allergic reaction to sodium pentathol (truth serum) or some other drug.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [quote]Originally posted by samuelk:
    [b]So I guess that means Biggles is a pharmacist.[/b][/quote]

    Not a pharmacist. Just good at impersonating one. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]

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    Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
    The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • samuelksamuelk The Unstoppable Mr. 'K'
    Not likely, without a face.
  • All he does is recommand that you take a sip from his jar. People don't usually live to complain.

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  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Sam: Just makes it easier to fit the mask on.

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    [b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
    Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
    The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • Is that "Chain of Command" from TNG you're talking about? I never really liked that particular episode. It had a lot of promise that never fulfilled.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Yes I believe that's the one.

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    [b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
    Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
    The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • RhettRhett (Not even a monkey)
    I just made a major discovery. Biggles is a Ringwraith! Run!

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    Please check out my Babylon 5 RPG/Stratagy game [url="http://rhett12.freeservers.com"]here[/url].
  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    Well, no. Those don't have physical form. Biggles does.
  • [quote]Originally posted by samuelk:
    [b]Not likely, without a face.[/b][/quote]

    "I'd like the generic amoxicillin, if you hav *sees that the pharmacist has no face* .....AAAAAAhhhhhh!!!" *runs off*
  • RhettRhett (Not even a monkey)
    [quote]Originally posted by Sanfam:
    [b]Well, no. Those don't have physical form. Biggles does.[/b][/quote]

    Are we sure? I've never really believed that. After all, he seems to live on these forums... [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]

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  • ArethusaArethusa Universal Cathode
    I think he's just a really advanced part of the board's cgi script. Perl's a powerful language, you know.

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  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    I need physical form both to have no face and to connect the direct mind-internet interface of my tank. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]

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    [b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
    Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
    The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • WarleaderWarleader Inmate: Babylon Project Mental Health Facility
    GRREEEENENENNENENE :LLOORT
  • ArikArik Galen's Apprentice
    Have you ever noticed the similarities between the words Narn and Flarn?
  • David of MacDavid of Mac Elite Ranger Ca
    And their both salty.

    *Sees others looking at him*

    What, I licked a Narn on a bet. Thank God for cloned body part replacements! I was worried I'd never taste again.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    I wouldn't do that for anything (except maybe lots of money or a copy of B5:ITF).

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    [b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
    Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
    The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
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