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SO IT IS A BLACK HOLE WHO KNEW? EINSTEIN THATS THE ANSWER!

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  • We're all going to die when it sucks us in.
  • MartianDustMartianDust Elite Ranger
    Oohh scarey. So is it really in the heart, the centre of our galaxy?! Perhaps thats what spins the galaxy round in the first place. And you'd think it wouldn't take long til it sucked more and more stars til it got to us.
  • Captain,SimmondsCaptain,Simmonds Trainee trainee
    Old news. I herd about this 2 or 3 years ago.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Probably closer to 2 than 3, I'm guessing.
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    Funny part of it is...

    That star (S2) is probably dead and inside the black hole by now...

    :p

    We're seeing stuff that happened thousands or millions of years ago...

    :)
  • Captain,SimmondsCaptain,Simmonds Trainee trainee
    What about time Dialation?
  • E.TE.T Quote-o-matic
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JackN [/i]
    [B]We're seeing stuff that happened thousands or millions of years ago...:) [/B][/QUOTE]
    Actually only about 30 000 years ago.
    Distinstace from Milky way's center to our solar system is little under 30 000 light years.
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by E.T [/i]
    [B]Actually only about 30 000 years ago.
    Distinstace from Milky way's center to our solar system is little under 30 000 light years. [/B][/QUOTE]

    yeah, I knew it was in there somewhere! :p

    Still 30,000 years is enough time for something to have already happened to S2 by now, considering it's orbit is on the scale of decades...

    ;)
  • BekennBekenn Sinclair's Duck
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Captain,Simmonds [/i]
    [B]What about time dilation? [/B][/QUOTE]

    That only comes into play when you're talking about fast-moving objects. While that star [i]is[/i] moving fast, it's still only going about 1.7% of the speed of light. Relativity hasn't even begun to come into play yet.
  • David of MacDavid of Mac Elite Ranger Ca
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by MartianDust [/i]
    [B]Oohh scarey. So is it really in the heart, the centre of our galaxy?! Perhaps thats what spins the galaxy round in the first place. And you'd think it wouldn't take long til it sucked more and more stars til it got to us. [/B][/QUOTE]

    That's not how a black hole works, despite popular myth. As long as you're outside the event horizon (the place where the speed needed to escape the gravity well becomes greater than the speed of light, not the horror movie) it acts just like a normal object with the same mass. Which is why the galaxy spins, as you mentioned. Without that orbit around the center, we'd fall right in. In the same vein, if Earth or one of the other planets suddenly stopped revolving around the sun, it would fall in as well.

    But, since we [i]are[/i] orbiting at the right speed, we'll just keep going 'round and 'round until something screws it all up.

    Yes, I'm looking at [i]you[/i], Andromeda Galaxy. ;)
  • FreejackFreejack Jake the Not-so-Wise
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Bekenn [/i]
    [B]That only comes into play when you're talking about fast-moving objects. While that star [i]is[/i] moving fast, it's still only going about 1.7% of the speed of light. Relativity hasn't even begun to come into play yet. [/B][/QUOTE]

    Actually gravity may have a greater opposing-dialation effect in this case in essence causing the reletive time to speed up, no slow down.

    Jake
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by David of Mac [/i]
    [B]Yes, I'm looking at [i]you[/i], Andromeda Galaxy. ;) [/B][/QUOTE]

    If only galactic collisions happened a little faster. It'd be great to see one happen (provided the Milky Way wasn't involved). :D
  • RubberEagleRubberEagle What's a rubber eagle used for, anyway?
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Biggles [/i]
    [B]If only galactic collisions happened a little faster. It'd be great to see one happen (provided the Milky Way wasn't involved). :D [/B][/QUOTE]
    right, let's build a remote control for the universe with a fast forward button!:D
  • BekennBekenn Sinclair's Duck
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Freejack [/i]
    [B]Actually gravity may have a greater opposing-dilation effect in this case in essence causing the reletive time to speed up, no slow down.

    Jake [/B][/QUOTE]

    I've certainly never heard of such an effect. If anything, I'd expect gravity to [i]amplify[/i] time dilation, not oppose it.

    And why can't anyone else spell "dilate" correctly? I keep having to correct your quotes....
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    I agree with Bekenn. I would expect, if anything, the gravity of the black hole would decelerate the speed of the electromagnetic signals they were watching, thus amplifying the effect.
  • FreejackFreejack Jake the Not-so-Wise
    Oops your right, higher gravity does 'slow' time down...

    BTW if you want an excellent reasource for all things physics, take a look here: [URL=http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/hframe.html]Hyperphysics[/URL]. Great site, lots of straight-forward, plain english explinations, along with equations.

    Jake
  • None of this discussion negates the fact that we're going to die a horrible death.
  • David of MacDavid of Mac Elite Ranger Ca
    Perhaps. But not from the black hole.
  • MartianDustMartianDust Elite Ranger
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by David of Mac [/i]
    [B]That's not how a black hole works, despite popular myth. As long as you're outside the event horizon (the place where the speed needed to escape the gravity well becomes greater than the speed of light, not the horror movie) it acts just like a normal object with the same mass. Which is why the galaxy spins, as you mentioned. Without that orbit around the center, we'd fall right in. In the same vein, if Earth or one of the other planets suddenly stopped revolving around the sun, it would fall in as well.
    [/B][/QUOTE]

    Looks like I been watching too many movies as you say. ;) That black hole film in particular ended up sucking in the Earth and everything in site.
    So am guessing that all galaxies have black holes? And assuming this are there any other black holes that aren't in the centre of galaxies? :)
  • BekennBekenn Sinclair's Duck
    I would certainly expect all spiral galaxies to have black holes in the center, at any rate. There's also more than likely a number of smaller black holes orbiting the center. Black holes really shouldn't be all that uncommon.
  • MartianDustMartianDust Elite Ranger
    Cool :)
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