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just for the record...

Virus scanners really DO do something...

just in case anyone was wondering.
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  • TycoTyco Ranger Texas
    So... you mean they're not called that just for the hell of it?
  • PhiPhi <font color=#FF0000>C</font><font color=#FF9900>o</font><font color=#FFFF00>l</font><font color=#00F
    A casual observance, A2597? ;)
    I thought they were for pretty graphics and fast number counting every week while they scan your system...

  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    I'm quite tempted to change his label...
  • A2597A2597 Fanboy
    any other ideas folks?

    I woke up to a missing windows install...virus scan from NAV = negative on both drives...I'm hopeing it's gone, but...I dunno.
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by A2597 [/i]
    [B]any other ideas folks?

    I woke up to a missing windows install...virus scan from NAV = negative on both drives...I'm hopeing it's gone, but...I dunno. [/B][/QUOTE]

    What makes you think that a missing windows install is anything to do with a virus?

    (I'm being serious by the way...)

    ;)
  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    Did you run a thorough scandisk?

    also, what models is your hard drive?

    also also, check your IDE Cables for kinks, punctures, or other damage. I had a problem with a drive failure due to that once.
  • E.TE.T Quote-o-matic
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Sanfam [/i]
    [B]also also, check your IDE Cables for kinks, punctures, or other damage.[/B][/QUOTE]
    Well, I think it would corrupt whole content of HD if there would be some of those causing errors.

    (my friend had a PC in which motherboard started to corrupt all data going through, corrupting all files on HD and causing extreme unstability)
  • A2597A2597 Fanboy
    well, so far it looks like 3rd times the charm...

    third format seems like it is taking. :D

    3 formats in 18 hours. has to be a record...
  • Hmm... 4 times in 24 hours, so I guess it's a tie. :p
  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by E.T [/i]
    [B](my friend had a PC in which motherboard started to corrupt all data going through, corrupting all files on HD and causing extreme unstability) [/B][/QUOTE]

    That actually happened to me on my last system. I went through two hard drives before I finally started replacing the mainboard. Though, that system is back in use now thanks to a PCI ATA Controller. Since then, i've had not a single problem (outside of the usual "Crap, no space!" stuff)
  • A2597A2597 Fanboy
    my system once again, crashed....
    now I can't even install windows...it just shuts the PC down entirely.
    heres the problem, as it has been. install windows, runs fine. come back a few minutes later (Or hours) and programs that WERE running, have no problem running. (In ram I guess)
    however I cannot start new programs AT ALL. CTRL+ALT+DEL does NOT bring up a menu / menu bar, etc. for all intents and purposes, windows is gone. so, restart (Manually, via reset button)
    checks for boot info from floppy, CD, then moves to HDD, and I get a black screen.
    ONCE out of like, 4 times I got the windows boot menu, tried safe mode and it froze on mup.sys. so, last time, I tried to install. got to the installation process, and the PC just shuts down. to get it back on, you have to flip the main power button on the back of the PC off and on.
    then it goes back to the install, and tells you what went wrong. main data tables couldn't copy.
    so, from this info...can we deduce whats wrong? HDD? Mobo? I checked the IDE cables, and while yes, there were a couple small kinks (Like folded almost in half...it IS cramped) there were no nicks, etc.
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    You have a EIDE controller board that you could plug in and disable the onboard?

    could be the controller chip on the mainboard...
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Yeah, I'd probably go with controller as well. You could try replacing the IDE cable and see if it helps. Any self respecting computer geek should have spares. I have a few dozen, myself. :)
  • C_MonC_Mon A Genuine Sucker
    I don't have spare ATA 133 cables, but I have a ton of ATA 100 and ATA 66.
  • E.TE.T Quote-o-matic
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by C_Mon [/i]
    [B]I don't have spare ATA 133 cables, but I have a ton of ATA 100 and ATA 66. [/B][/QUOTE]
    I hope you didn't pay more from those "ATA 100 cables".

    They're all same.
  • E.TE.T Quote-o-matic
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by A2597 [/i]
    [B]main data tables couldn't copy.
    so, from this info...can we deduce whats wrong? HDD? Mobo?[/B][/QUOTE]
    Sound like mobo. Or more exactly IDE controller. (well, that's integrated into south bridge nowadays)

    If trying with other HD and cable doesn't help, it's mobo.
  • A2597A2597 Fanboy
    taking into account that a month ago my 80 gig HDD crashed....does it sound more likely that it's RAM/mobo?
  • A2597A2597 Fanboy
    well.....according to this: (I can't mess with PC as I'm on campus)

    [url]http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314503&Product=winxp[/url]


    it's a HDD problem...looks like I get to mess with the Master Boot Record!
  • Vertigo1Vertigo1 Official Fuzzy Dice of FirstOnes.com
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by C_Mon [/i]
    [B]I don't have spare ATA 133 cables, but I have a ton of ATA 100 and ATA 66. [/B][/QUOTE]

    They're all the same 80 conductor cables. They aren't any different dude.
  • Vertigo1Vertigo1 Official Fuzzy Dice of FirstOnes.com
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by A2597 [/i]
    [B]well.....according to this: (I can't mess with PC as I'm on campus)

    [url]http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314503&Product=winxp[/url]


    it's a HDD problem...looks like I get to mess with the Master Boot Record! [/B][/QUOTE]

    If so, then its a simple matter of booting to a DOS floppy, running "fdisk /mbr", booting from your XP CD, going to your recovery console and running "fixmbr" and rebooting.
  • A2597A2597 Fanboy
    ok...but another question......

    my PC restarted / shut down in the middle of a windows install...sooooo, do I fix the MBR then format?

    Would a low level format mean I don't have to mess with the MBR?
  • E.TE.T Quote-o-matic
    That "low level format" isn't normally done to nowadays' HDs.
    So try fixing MBR.

    I'm thinking that if it would be corrupted MBR or other error, BIOS should report it.
    Have you tried booting with other HDs?
    Even with those which don't have OS. (because BIOS should give error message if it can't find OS)
  • A2597A2597 Fanboy
    well, aside from my Mom's (Forget it) and my Dads (Even less likely) all I have is a totally dead 80 gig.....

    so no other HDD....
  • Vertigo1Vertigo1 Official Fuzzy Dice of FirstOnes.com
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by A2597 [/i]
    [B]ok...but another question......

    my PC restarted / shut down in the middle of a windows install...sooooo, do I fix the MBR then format?

    Would a low level format mean I don't have to mess with the MBR? [/B][/QUOTE]

    A low-level format restores the drive to factory condition as you've written zeros to every part of the physical platter...including the master boot record. I'd only do this as a last resort though as from what little information you've posted, it looks like its a hardware issue.

    Just do this:

    Boot off of the XP CD and goto the recovery console. Run FIXMBR and exit the console. Then reboot and format the drive (do a FULL format, not a quick one). Then try installing XP.

    If that doesn't work, download a copy of MEMTEST86, format a floppy with the /S command line option and drop the contents of the memtest86 zip file onto it and run EVERY test overnight. It will continue to run until you actually stop it manually. This will make sure your RAM isn't at fault.

    Also, if your BIOS supports it (which it damn well better support it since its been available since '98) [b]ENABLE[/b] S.M.A.R.T. for your drives. If it reboots and shuts down again, [b]CHECK THE TEMPERATURE OF YOUR PROCESSOR![/b]
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    SMART overreacts all the time. :D
  • A2597A2597 Fanboy
    I just said forget it and returned the HDD and exchanged it for another, and bought a new mobo which should be here friday.

    And I ALWAYS watch the temp of my procc...it's cool.
  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    Well, don't forget voltages. And, chipset temperatures are quite important, but not always monitored.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by A2597 [/i]
    [B]And I ALWAYS watch the temp of my procc...it's cool. [/B][/QUOTE]

    Temp isn't everything, especially when you're overclocking. :)
  • A2597A2597 Fanboy
    yea yea...it was a STABLE overclock that held for over six months with not so much as a hickup....
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Doesn't mean stuff wasn't happening. :)
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