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The whole evolution is evil and shouldn't be taught in school bullshit is bad enough. This takes the cake though. Who would even waste brain cells thinking up something this stupid and pointless? Things like this make me think we should have let the south secede. :rolleyes:
The whole evolution is evil and shouldn't be taught in school bullshit is bad enough. This takes the cake though. Who would even waste brain cells thinking up something this stupid and pointless? Things like this make me think we should have let the south secede. :rolleyes:
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:rolleyes:
Individuals are smart, mankind is dumb as boot.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JackN [/i]
[B]I wonder if the Dinosaurs sat around thinking up shit like this when that big Asteroid hit the Yucatan Penninsula?[/B][/QUOTE]
Asteroid which caused chixculub crater was pretty small.
Size of big asteroids is counted on hundred kilometers.:D
Regards,
Morden
[B]Tell me something new.
Individuals are smart, mankind is dumb as boot.
[/B][/QUOTE]
You forgot the "some" in front of individuals.
[B]It's called the theory of evolution, so what's so wrong with teaching it as that? Changing the name is just stupid! And why is it that the US always seems to be the leader in stupidity in the school curiculum, particularly when it comes to things that may go against some religion? [/B][/QUOTE]
Its becuase around 59% of the population says that Religion is important.
[B]It's called the theory of evolution, so what's so wrong with teaching it as that? Changing the name is just stupid! And why is it that the US always seems to be the leader in stupidity in the school curiculum, particularly when it comes to things that may go against some religion? [/B][/QUOTE]
Because everyone around here is so obsessed with political correctness.
[QUOTE]dont get me started on religion! [/QUOTE]
I think most of FirstOnes echoes that sentiment...
;)
Seriously, evolution is a theory as of yet, but being taught as fact, so the argument that evolution shouldn't be taught has some merit.
but this? Heh...Stuuuuuuupid.
of course, everyone here knows what I think of American schools. :alien:
[B]so the argument that evolution shouldn't be taught has some merit.[/B][/QUOTE]
Atoms are also only theory. Should that also not be taught?
The religion boat is sinking in the devloped world anyway.
for all we know atomic structure is just a pile of very very very very small munchkins of various colours all holding hands...
the point is just because its a theorem or a theory, doesn't mean anyone has the right to throw it out with a distinct lack of anything else to explain what we see happening. If someone could point out God's fingerprints in the process of creation then fine... but until then... STFU you hyperconservative religious NUTTERS !
and Biggles... its not 'gravity', its 'sucking force', everyone knows that... the heavier something is, (with few exceptions), the more it sucks, therefore = sucking force, sheesh.. and you're supposed to be an engineer...
And frankly, there's a hell of a lot more evidence pointing to evolution being an accurate theory than there is pointing to creationalism being an accurate theory. You may as well go around saying that the Dreamtime should be taught in Australian schools instead of evolution, or that Maui should be taught instead of evolution in NZ schools. :)
Evolution in colleges, however, should stay, as then the student chooses classes. I just don't think it is right to force it on young students.
As stated, time travel is also a theory....but it isn't taught in schools as fact, as evolution is.
heh....
*Wonders how long civilized discussion can continue*
Prove that we do not live in a Matrix-type world.
I keep a spoon on the wall of my cube. When I get a particularly dumb caller needing help with his/her computer, I can point to the spoon. This indicates that the caller is someone who should not use anything more technologically advanced. Prove that the people behind this move are smarter than that.
[B]I'm not asking that creationism be taught in schools. I'm just saying that until evolution is absolutly undeniably proven, it shouldn't be taught. Let the kids decide on their own what to believe about how we came to be. There is TONS to explore in science without going into evolution.
Evolution in colleges, however, should stay, as then the student chooses classes. I just don't think it is right to force it on young students.
As stated, time travel is also a theory....but it isn't taught in schools as fact, as evolution is.
heh....
*Wonders how long civilized discussion can continue* [/B][/QUOTE]
I agree with a lot that A# says. Especially the wondering how long the civilized discussion will last...It's a touchy subject, but most subjects worth discussing are :)
I agree that kids should decide what they want to believe on their own, but I also think they have to know the options before they can decide.
In my highschool evolution was taught as a theory, not fact. The teacher specifically stated that we were free to disagree with it on any grounds, religious or otherwise. Though thinking about it, everyone is free to disagre with anything their taught. (However one can always say that teachers are influential and can affect the student. Religious leaders and parents can too, though they are not government controlled. But I digress...)
I would say evolution falls under science, and should stay as part of science, because it is investigated scientifically (whatever that means...I won't go there). I would say creationism falls under religion because it is evaluated religiously (whatever that means...another place I won't go). I wouldn't call creationism a theory, I wouldn't call evolution a belief. As such I don't see them as polar opposites at all. The biggest trick with discussing this is that the one side has scientific arguments, whereas the other has religious. Both strongly held and supportable, but not really suited to counter eachother.
That said, I'm going to give a semi-scientific argument in support of theories being taught: If they weren't taught in schools, where would many people learn them? No one can prove or disprove something without understanding it first. Maybe it comes from my basic belief that learning something new is never a bad thing, but I think the theory (stress on theory) of evolution should stay in curriculums.
IMHO, of course :)
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In NZ we seem to take a rather logical approach to this: the science stuff like evolution gets taught in the science classes, and we have a religious education class where you learn about religions . Predominantly catholic, because that's the state religion - as much as it can be anyway. We also learn about other religions.
No religion should be the state religion.
This religious "preaching" is just one way for leaders to get power. (Hitler as most noticeable of them)
So maybe that's why I don't wonder why they're doing this kind of things in US.
*shakes head*
[B]I think you'd be stupid not to teach evolution at school. People who are of a religious background will get taught their religion's creation belief at church (or the equivalent), the scientific theory of evolution should be taught at schools.
In NZ we seem to take a rather logical approach to this: the science stuff like evolution gets taught in the science classes, and we have a religious education class where you learn about religions . Predominantly catholic, because that's the state religion - as much as it can be anyway. We also learn about other religions. [/B][/QUOTE]
See? GOOD idea. :)
Teaching both sides of the argument, not just one. Here, no religion is allowed in schools. Religious freedom means don't even mention it in the public school unless you want to be expelled or sumesuch.
[B]This religious "preaching" is just one way for leaders to get power. (Hitler as most noticeable of them)
So maybe that's why I don't wonder why they're doing this kind of things in US. [/B][/QUOTE]
Nnnnno. Slight difference between Hitler calling for the extermination of the Jews etc etc etc, and a bunch of religious rednecks trying to outlaw the term evolution.