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That's it, it's all over
I spent the last 3 months for hardcore watching Babylon 5, and I'm very sad that it's over
even with the crusade season still remaining it's not going to be the same, I liked the charcters too which made the show, especially the charcs ivanova and garibaldi which I gonna miss the most :)
although I expected more from sleeping in light... I thought it should end more like in a special way such as phylosophic way, some like in the episode of the end of season 4 style...
the end of sleeping in light remains certain insufficient saticfaction like, now what?
Just sad that it's so shortly over and there is no episode ready in the morning but thats fine and it will never be forgotten by me it's the best show Ive seen so far and i think it's gonna take a while until there will be another. :)
-riku
even with the crusade season still remaining it's not going to be the same, I liked the charcters too which made the show, especially the charcs ivanova and garibaldi which I gonna miss the most :)
although I expected more from sleeping in light... I thought it should end more like in a special way such as phylosophic way, some like in the episode of the end of season 4 style...
the end of sleeping in light remains certain insufficient saticfaction like, now what?
Just sad that it's so shortly over and there is no episode ready in the morning but thats fine and it will never be forgotten by me it's the best show Ive seen so far and i think it's gonna take a while until there will be another. :)
-riku
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(I still say "Deconstruction of falling stars" would have been better)
Never read the PsiCorps trilagy, can't find it anymore at the local books a trillion
However, SiL is full of philosophical thoughts that are coming in several layers. To me, "DoFS" would have made a bad ending (although I like the episode) because the viewer would have gotten a strange idea of "so that is what the show was about" - SiL fits far better, there, I feel. :)
Take a break and then re-watch the show. You'll be surprised what hints you missed in seasons 1 and 2 (at least it happened to me for the first 2 times) :D.
All 3 trilogies are waiting for me on my bookshelf, btw. ;)
We only see our characters briefly in DoF, the rest of the time it is characters we do not know or have never met. The show was about the end of the human race. Great episode, lousy way to give resolution. Its like ending a song with a minor 15th chord or something nasty like that.
SiL shows us the what happens to the characters, with the climax of the show being the disbanding of the station. While we do not know the final ending of some of our characters, we have a sence of what the remainder of thier life shal bring them. TO me thats ending with a major chord, a sence of "Ahhh," that feeling when a slide projector finally shifts into focus.
SiL is how you end a story.
[B]Many ST fans are whining how Enterprise is violating the continum. While it is a valid concern, shouln't the focus be on the story and characters? [/B][/QUOTE]
Following this logic, that would mean you would not be at all concerned if Crusade had featured things like claiming B5 to be the first and only Babylon station to be constructed or if the Minbari had been the first to make contact with the humans.
Also, remember Into The Fire....
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Never read the PsiCorps trilagy, can't find it anymore at the local books a trillion [/B][/QUOTE]
You might want to continually check [url]www.strandbooks.com[/url] Great used book store here in NY, you never know what they will have.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by riku [/i]
[B]Just sad that it's so shortly over and there is no episode ready in the morning but thats fine and it will never be forgotten by me it's the best show Ive seen so far and i think it's gonna take a while until there will be another. :)[/B][/QUOTE]
Wait a bit, and then find someone else to introduce to the show. Watch the show with that person, and never answer questions. You'll find that's possibly better than seeing the show for the first time yourself.
[B]I'm in florida, that is quite a commute... [/B][/QUOTE]
thats what the postal service is for. and why i gave the web address instead of their store address (Broadway near Union Square)
lol
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Bekenn [/i]
[B]Wait a bit, and then find someone else to introduce to the show. Watch the show with that person, and never answer questions. You'll find that's possibly better than seeing the show for the first time yourself. [/B][/QUOTE]
Good advice. Did that with my partner. With the DVDs, we're watching the series in full for the second time now.
Funny, how often your answers (if you answer) will sound like a Vorlon. :D
BTW, a friend of mine, who thinks he has seen "most of the show" (sigh) and thus thinks he knows what the show is about (SIGH!) asked me where it leads to, in the end. Of course, I didn't answer "in/to) fire" :p, but that, in the end, the station is destroyed and a main character dies. Puzzles him even more :D but unfortunately he didn't take the time to watch the whole show.
i watched the first episode of crusade and it gave the impression of:
bad acting
bad writing
bad directing
bad new animations
and -- bad music
the funniest thing is when they quote the vorlons shadows and lorien, who are u what do u want why are you here in the opening, it sounds leaked, especially that techmage, "who do you serv" who are you blah blah blah ok i got the msg no need to repeat what was on b5 the entire fucking 5 seasons :)
it's just like it doesn't have to do with b5, like jms hasn't written it, just improvised with a crappy plot to make a sequel +- for b5...
but i shoudn't judge from only one episode...
i'm gettings now call to arms and i hope it will clear some stuff
and what the hell is that excalibre design? where did it come from? (it totaly doesn't look like an earth design although it is)
and a question for b5, if im not wrong somewhere in season 5, when a drakh came aboard the whitestar it had heavy blur every few seconds when he moved but after he was shown on centauri prime it didn't have any blur why?
-riku
[B]and a question for b5, if im not wrong somewhere in season 5, when a drakh came aboard the whitestar it had heavy blur every few seconds when he moved but after he was shown on centauri prime it didn't have any blur why?
-riku [/B][/QUOTE]
containment suit or something. Hiding his real visage from them.
[B]and what the hell is that excalibre design? where did it come from? (it totaly doesn't look like an earth design although it is)[/B][/QUOTE]
Well, 2 things: first, did you miss the bit at the end of season 5 where Sheridan says they need to develop a new ship? And secondly, A Call to Arms will tell you all about the Excalibur, since that is the Crusade pilot.
You need to give Crusade more time. Granted, what was made isn't as good as B5, but remember it's just the 1st season. Even B5 had some really horrible episodes in the 1st season. If you finish all that was made of Crusade and read the 3 unmade scripts, you'll realise that Crusade would have been fucking amazing if TNT hadn't screwed with it.
Yes, I am bitter.
[B]Actually that wasn't a Drakh but one of their Agents from another race. Like the Drakh were to the Shadows. At least thats how I recall it... [/B][/QUOTE]
False. That was a normal Drakh. It was an effect they were trying out; JMS didn't like it and decided to drop it, kinda like the old alien make-up from The Gathering. As far as story reasons go, that one Drakh was just trying to hide what he looked like, out of fear that he might be recognized as an agent of the Shadows. On a Minbari ship, that would be bad.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by David of Mac [/i]
[B]There are supposed to be two types of Drakh. The Drakh Drakh, which are the grey spikey ones like the one on Centauri Prime, and the glowy red eyed ones are the solider Drakh, like the one on that White Star, and the one who saved Londo from that knife-throwing Centauri noble in an excessively cool scene no one ever mentions.[/B][/QUOTE]
Also false. The red glowy eye look look actually comes from a helmet that they're wearing.
Riku: Which ep did you see? [i]War Zone[/i], or [i]Racing the Night[/i]? [i]Racing the Night[/i] was originally going to be the pilot episode, but TNT screwed with things and then demanded that JMS write a new pilot. That new pilot is [i]War Zone[/i], which even JMS hates.
From JMS:
[QUOTE][B]Just for the record: I think the first one -- the only one written directly at TNT's behest -- is probably the weakest one, certainly the one I find least interesting. It's lumbered with buckets of exposition, explaining things that don't need explaining, too many fights, too many explosions, too much swaggering around, all stuff the net wanted.
Then we go back to the show we wanted to make...Path of Sorrows is terrific, Well of Forever is a solid character story, The Long Road is just pure fun (that's pretty much reverse broadcast order, btw)... there's one or two in the bunch that are a bit slower than I'd like, but those are the exception rather than the rule.
Just to get my own feelings on this out there.
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[QUOTE][i]"Did they at least give you a blindfold and a cigarette?"[/i]
[B]Not orally, no.[/B][/QUOTE]
Well, 2 things: first, did you miss the bit at the end of season 5 where Sheridan says they need to develop a new ship?[/QUOTE]
i remember that he talked with delenn about it, but i thought it's just gonna be an advanced whitestar, like the one nadab made, something like the one's in sleeping in light style...
it looks more like the bluestar design of nadab's but well,.... i'm not sure it may be an original design by nadab who knows
BTW: I found my tape of SiL today! :) I'm so happy!!! And now after rewatching it I know why it was a better ending to the show than "Deconstruction of falling stars". SiL tells the viewer that the show is over, Babylon 5 gone and Sheridan gone it really tells you that this show is over. "Deconstruction of falling stars" didn't really in my opinion close the story. Sure it told us what's going to happen in the future, but it never really said that Babylon 5 was over.
also
i watched call to arms, now the story still was a bit disconnected from the original b5 story, but i think the movie was... OK.... kinda
but why in the end sheridan said "there's gotta be some race that is at least old as the shadows" ----- wtf :p
the shadows are the 2nd oldest race(if im not wrong) and the first ones are gone so how can possibly be a race as old as them, or any other then the first ones?
why saying stupid stuff? :)
-riku
edit: here, for those who saw it along ago and dont remember
[url]http://slylendro.3d-life.com/riku/sheridan_bs.mp3[/url]
[B]but why in the end sheridan said "there's gotta be some race that is at least old as the shadows" ----- wtf :p
the shadows are the 2nd oldest race(if im not wrong) and the first ones are gone so how can possibly be a race as old as them, or any other then the first ones?
why saying stupid stuff? :)
-riku [/B][/QUOTE]
Why indeed..
Well.. Remember the weird aliens from Sigma whatever it was? Those funny looking ships that came to give a hand in that one episode? Oh yea, and then there's the race Lorien was part of, the one funnily titled "first ones". So actually.. Shadows were the third oldest race right? If you put them and vorlons on the same spot that is. They could be even the 4th oldest race.
And I think what Sheridan meant was that maybe one of the First Ones left behind something, or perhaps their was a helpful race out there more advanced than the Minbari, but not a First One.
Still, does someone know how old the Third space race is?
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I'm sure that's pretty unlikely. I mean, when someone who was pretty much on a first name basis with all the First Ones says that all of them are leaving, I'm pretty sure you can take him at his word.