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The New Battlestar...

RickRick Sector 14 Studios
I'm not quite sure what the hell to make of this (snipped from Wired.com):

[i]"We realized the only way we could improve on the original is if the Cylons could have sex," quipped co-executive producer David Eick at Tuesday night's Los Angeles premiere.[/i]

Wtf?

-R.
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  • I cant wait till it comes on:)
  • RickRick Sector 14 Studios
    I'm bracing myself for a brutal bitch-slapping...everything I've heard scares me...especially the fact that Hollywood press [i]liked[/i] it....

    -R.
  • It looks very good form what i have seen from the preveiws of it on space.
  • RickRick Sector 14 Studios
    I grew up watching the original when it aired in '78. I fear the psychological damage that may ensue if I watch a Cylon "getting it on" with a human...even if "she" is a Victoria's Secret model...
  • RickRick Sector 14 Studios
    [url]http://www.battlestargalactica.com/kobol/primer.php[/url]

    Good Read.

    -R.
  • shadow boxershadow boxer The Finger Painter & Master Ranter
    I kinda side with Rick on this... the bitter cynic in my suggests this is going to suck...
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    I read that [url=http://www.wired.com/news/games/0,2101,61436,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1]article[/url] when it turned up (on slashdot, I think). That quote just plain shocked me. I knew they thought that way, but to have one of them openly admit it is surprising. It just makes me think even more that most of US-made TV is crap these days.

    It occurs to me that the idea of a race of beautiful females infiltrating humanity to engineer its doom and having lots and lots of sex in the process is something straight out of a Z-grade scifi movie from the 60s.
  • I too first watched BG in '78, even watched the abomination of Galactica 1980 :eek:

    I will watch this out if interest, but I am not expecting anything out of the ordinary.

    Lets not get into gender changing Starbuck and Boomer........

    At least SciFi has shown some good movies (science fiction for once) to advertise their new product.

    We shall see.............

    After this, why don't they just change their name to the Fantasy Channel and get over it......:mad: :mad:
  • u guys just gotta keep in mind that this is not a remake of the origional show, it's a totally new version. it's gonna be different... so keep that in mind be4 bashing it.

    i personally didn't watch the origional show, so i suppose i'd probably be more inclined to like it (i.e. i won't be comparing it to anything, it will be new). it looks good to me to be honost... i'm looking forward to it. it could still be crap i suppose, but we'll have to see come tomorrow :). (9/8c on the Sci-Fi channel)
  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    hmm...

    Why did they have to give people sex changes?
  • RickRick Sector 14 Studios
    Probably because they wanted to leave open the option for a Lesbian Starbuck-Cylon love scene.

    There. I said it first. And if it happens...

    "I TOLD YOU SO."

    Basically they are doing the same thing to Galactica that TNT tried to force JMS to do to Crusade....remember the "make her have sex with other species to lead to a greater understanding of new races" line?

    Bleah.

    -R.
  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by LogicSequence [/i]
    [B]u guys just gotta keep in mind that this is not a remake of the origional show, it's a totally new version. it's gonna be different... so keep that in mind be4 bashing it. [/B][/QUOTE]

    There's very little bashing of it. It's more of a type of genuine concern for what could have been a great series, but in an effort to make it more "timely" and modern, was pumped up with sex, needless character changes, and random acts of pen.
  • RickRick Sector 14 Studios
    Stargate: our last haven for decent SciFi.

    BTW: somewhere in that article I read, the producer blamed Star Wars for dumbing down space combat for the masses; he thought 2001 was much better.

    Um...wtf? As I recall, ILM's first academy award was for the breakthrough effects in Star Wars.

    As fror realism, he was claiming inspiration from "asteroids", (yes, the 1981 Atari Video game).

    Guess this bozo never saw a starfury :)

    -R.
  • RickRick Sector 14 Studios
    Come on, Jack...say something.. I know you're browsing ;)
  • Heh, there simply is no reason to change a winning formula, but for some stupid reason it seems that the media/hollywood think there HAS to be a bunch of mindeless sex to make a good show, even though that ratings show otherwise. (Case in point, Buffy TVS)

    Now, let us HOPE that what they did was say "Cylons = look like human, but just how many gay commanders are there? We need a female Cylon to get some information in Cold War style!..hmm...Humans made us, we make female us. We = have the perfect spy, because humans don't know there are female Scylons!

    Yea...right. wishful thinking, but would at least WORK.
  • RickRick Sector 14 Studios
    I maintain it was for little more than being able to exploit a Starbuck-Cylon scene.


    Oh, I'll watch Galactica, but I'm keeping the Barf Bucket(tm) nearby, and a pillow to yell into uncontrollably, such as not to agitate my neighbors with my fits of fury.

    -R.
  • RickRick Sector 14 Studios
    Yes. The bashing will start [i]after[/i] we see what they've done ;)

    -R.
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Rick [/i]
    [B]Come on, Jack...say something.. I know you're browsing ;) [/B][/QUOTE]

    I missed my que...

    Actually... I doubt seriously that I'll even watch it...

    I was turned off by the 80's bastardization...

    :rolleyes:
  • RickRick Sector 14 Studios
    Surprisingly, the X-box/ PS2 game looks good (Warthog games).

    -R.
  • Vertigo1Vertigo1 Official Fuzzy Dice of FirstOnes.com
    [url]http://www.subspacebbs.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17005[/url]

    The new look of the Galactica.....


    I have to say one thing. Its UGLY! That is by far the UGLIEST model I have ever seen. EVER. The original design was just fine thank you very much. :mad:

    Scifi can kiss my ass for bastardizing a damn good show that was way ahead of its time!
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Rick [/i]
    [B]BTW: somewhere in that article I read, the producer blamed Star Wars for dumbing down space combat for the masses; he thought 2001 was much better.[/B][/QUOTE]

    I found that odd, since I don't remember all that much space combat in 2001. Maybe it was blurred out in my memories by the drug-like music and flashing lights.
  • Vertigo1Vertigo1 Official Fuzzy Dice of FirstOnes.com
    Well, Lucas was responsible for the cancellation of the original series. He sued Fox over the special effects because the laser blasts looked like tubolasers in star wars. :rolleyes:
  • RickRick Sector 14 Studios
    It looks like the skin was taken off 2/3s of the ship (ir it fell off). Maybe it was used for another project.

    "So that's where they got the Spare parts for B5"

    ;)

    -R.
  • RickRick Sector 14 Studios
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Vertigo1 [/i]
    [B]Well, Lucas was responsible for the cancellation of the original series. He sued Fox over the special effects because the laser blasts looked like tubolasers in star wars. :rolleyes: [/B][/QUOTE]

    That's a myth. Truth is, like [i]Star Trek[/i] when it first ran, the ratings, well, sucked. They only picked up in syndication.

    As for the similarity of the effect, well, yeah, they were similar....because John Dykstra (the revolutionary effects genius behind [i]Star Wars[/i]' Academy award winning Effects) did the FX for [i]Battlestar Galactica[/i].

    And Galactica was a Universal Production...not Fox :)

    Oh, wait...now that explains allot...it's now...[i]Vivendi[/i] Universal....

    Sidenote: I knew David Greenan (through his mom)....he played the Comms officer on the Original Galactica series. Cool guy. Ended up doing soaps and commercials afterward.

    -R.
  • Vertigo1Vertigo1 Official Fuzzy Dice of FirstOnes.com
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Rick [/i]
    [B]That's a myth. Truth is, like [i]Star Trek[/i] when it first ran, the ratings, well, sucked. They only picked up in syndication.

    As for the similarity of the effect, well, yeah, they were similar....because John Dykstra (the revolutionary effects genius behind [i]Star Wars[/i]' Academy award winning Effects) did the FX for [i]Battlestar Galactica[/i].

    And Galactica was a Universal Production...not Fox :)

    Oh, wait...now that explains allot...it's now...[i]Vivendi[/i] Universal....

    Sidenote: I knew David Greenan (through his mom)....he played the Comms officer on the Original Galactica series. Cool guy. Ended up doing soaps and commercials afterward.

    -R. [/B][/QUOTE]

    Its not a myth dude. Unless Richard Hatch doesn't know wtf he's talking about since he's the one that brought it up in a documentary saying its true.
  • RickRick Sector 14 Studios
    Apple tried to sue for "look and feel"...with ambiguous results, so, to quote Jerry Macguire (sort-of):

    "Show me the court papers."

    BSG = Universal property, not Fox. Fox backed Star Wars.

    BSG FX = John Dykstra (who also did Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, Firefox, Spiderman, and many others). This is why they looked similar. FX weren't George, they were John.

    as for the effects, the sounds were different. Screen form factor was different. framing of the action was different. The only thing Dykstra DID use directly was the Dykstraflex camera he designed (the first computer motion controlled film camera system).

    So, as much as I liked Richard Hatch as an actor from a childhood favorite show, [i]if[/i] he actually said that, I rather doubt he knew wtf he was talking about, as, for all intents an purposes, a splinter cell of ILM [i]did[/i] the effects. In fact, according to the ILM archive, at least half-a-dozen people that were on the [i]Galactica[/i] crew with Dykstra were also on his [i]Star Wars[/i] FX team. Most of them ended up in NorCal in late '78, when ILM officially incorporated.

    Most of this info came Directly out of the two volumes I have that trace 20 years of ILMs work, and where the original founders ended up. Good read, but expensive at $80+ apiece.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    The impression I've got of Richard Hatch over the years is that he's a tad bitter. Saying something like the original series was cancelled because someone else sued its maker would seem to fit with that.
  • Vertigo is correct, the now yemporarily offline Battlestar Pegasus site had a very detailed description of the various parts of the lawsuit, and what Lucas regarded as copying.
  • RickRick Sector 14 Studios
    I'll believe it when I see it. I don't recall seeing that on Pegasus in the past.

    Though, if George Lucas did it to force Dykstra et. al. back to ILM, that may have some degree of feasibility (though I still tend to doubt it). It may even explain why Dykstra left after Empire.

    I don't know why, but I have a hard time thinking Lucas would be that kind of an ass.

    If there WAS a battle, I could see one between Fox and Universal, though. Studio execs are like morons running with scissors. Stupid and Stupid.

    How-eva---

    Like Biggles, lots of what I've read indicates that Mr. Hatch has been bitter--even to the point of attacking Glen Larson, Galactica's creator, for "trying to undermine my efforts to reveive the show," when at one point Larson expressed interest in trying to revive BSG.

    I won't speculate on this angst. I know that he seemed to fall of the acting circuit after BSG, but that could mean anything.

    It's great that he's a fan of his own work, but, like B5, the Intellectual Property has owners. And sometimes they may not "Do The Right Thing" in one's point of view....

    I do find it sadly ironic that [i]Battlestar Pegasus[/i], a site devoted to the original series, and vehemently against the remake, has no fewer than 2 ads on the frontpage for the tie-in BSG video game.
  • When the Battlestar Pegasus site comes back online I'll see if they've kept the article, it was one of THE best sites regarding Galactica.
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