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Biggles · November 2001

Here I am, making a rare post from [b]outside my nutrient tank[/b], to announce that the Babylon 5 DVD is indeed available in the 4th Region, and that I have a copy in my cold little hands right now! Mwahahahaa!

Anyway, the extras are listed as:
[list]
[*]Interactive Menus (why is that an extra?)
[*]Scene Access (again, why?)
[*]Dolby Surround 2.0
[*]English and French subtitles
[*]Cast & Crew
[/list]
So, not a whole heap of extras.
The DVD is double sided and comes in the standard case (not the shitty cardboard ones that WB often uses). They used what looks like the normal [i]In The Beginning[/i] cover. Haven't had a chance to run it yet due to the lack of a DVD player/drive where I am. I'll watch it when I get home and report back unless someone else reports back first and saves me the trouble. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]

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Mundane · November 2001

Where did you get that???

Biggles · November 2001

Whitcoulls's main store, cnr Queen St and Victoria St, Auckland City CBD district, New Zealand. They had an large drawer full.
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Mundane · November 2001

Too far from Norway..better wait for Amazooooon

JackN · November 2001

Big L's:

Is it just [i]In the Beginning[/i] or does it have the other title included as well?

LightNZ · November 2001

The region 4 version has both movies (i know that for a fact). I'm guess that there is one on each side of the single dvd???

Biggles · November 2001

Just for the curious (note: high quality images):
[url="http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/jlbiggs/images/cover_front.jpg"]The front of the cover[/url]
[url="http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/jlbiggs/images/cover_inside.jpg"]The inside of the cover[/url]

Correct, one on each side.
The video quality of [i]The Gathering[/i] I would describe as a little above TV quality. Better than a recorded version.
[i]In The Beginning[/i] has excellent quality video and sound, the CGI especially looks great. It's also good looking in wide screen (especially the battle of the line!). Unfortunately, the high quality video means it is easier to notice the slight movement of the camera in scenes that show people talking. This is only in [i]In The Beginning[/i] though, not [i]The Gathering[/i]. On that note, the version of [i]The Gathering[/i] is the TNT special one, with the new music, no title sequence, etc.

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Falcon1 · November 2001

Thanks for the info Biggles. It will be interesting to see how it sells now!

Is there a B5 logo on the dvd disc Biggles?

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Warble · November 2001

Biggles, how much was it?

I hope girl doesn't mind invasion of her DVD player

Falcon1 · November 2001

Warble, its a matter of National Security. DVD Player must be acquired to complete mission! [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]

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Biggles · November 2001

Falcon1: It's a double sided disc. This means the only indication of what is on it is the small writing around the hub. The rest of the disc on both sides is shiney data area.

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[b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
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The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

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Sanfam · November 2001

Double-sided is good. Means more data was stuffed onto it. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img] (Or, they were too cheap to print a logo. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/tongue.gif[/img])

JackN · November 2001

I noticed that some grue had to put that damn rating sticker right smack on the front cover. Man I hate that...

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Hey! What's with that planet behind Babylon 5 on the inside cover?

:/

Falcon1 · November 2001

Thanks Biggles. I haven't actually seen a double sided disc yet.....

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LightNZ · November 2001

[quote]Originally posted by JackN:
[b]

Hey! What's with that planet behind Babylon 5 on the inside cover?

:/[/b][/quote]

Epsilon 3. looks weird but then it is cover art

David of Mac · November 2001

Ok, could someone please explane to me why, just why, that a two-sided DVD with one movie on it can switch layers smack in the middle without me getting up and manually filpping it over like an excessivly shiney burger, but two-sided DVD's with two movies (or two versions of the same movie) have to be filpped over manually?

TheSaint · November 2001

[quote]Originally posted by Biggles:
[b]Here I am, making a rare post from [b]outside my nutrient tank[/b], to announce that the Babylon 5 DVD is indeed available in the 4th Region, and that I have a copy in my cold little hands right now! Mwahahahaa!
[/B][/quote]

Wait, back up for a moment.

You have hands?

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Biggles · November 2001

David of Mac: Yes, quite easily. DVD's work like so: Each side has 2 layers. The tracks on each layer are interlaced so the laser can go between the tracks on the first layer to get to the tracks on the second. A double sided DVD has two sides with each side made up from two layers. Now then, you may have heard the figure of ~17GB of storage on a DVD. This comes from ~4GB per layer. Two layers per side = ~8GB per side. Two sides = 4 layers = ~16GB (~17GB) per disc. Thus a movie of one side can change layers because the disc does not need to be flipped. There is sometimes a small delay on layer change because the laser needs to move from the outside of the disc to the inside and seek to the beginning of the track while maintaining a constant read speed. Double sided discs, on the other hand, will need to be flipped when going between two sides because there isn't a laser on top as well.

TheSaint: Yes. Cold little ones.

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The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras

whitestar90 · November 2001

I've got it aswell [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img].I had mine on preorder and received it yesterday [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
Now all I need is a widesrcreen tv and I'll be laughing [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
[edit[
The gathering is in standard format while ITB is in widescreen...[/edit]
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WORF · November 2001

I wonder if that means region 2 will be getting them.

Worf

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Vertigo1 · November 2001

Wha?! No deleted scenes?! That sucks! [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/mad.gif[/img] Those often end up being the best.

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Falcon1 · November 2001

[quote]Originally posted by WORF:
[b]I wonder if that means region 2 will be getting them.

Worf

[/b][/quote]

Region 2 won't be out until march according to Amazon.co.uk.

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Falcon1 · November 2001

Biggles, just a thought, are you the first member of the Firstones to actually obtain a copy of the DVD??? What an honour if you were!! [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]

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Biggles · November 2001

Well I'm the first one to report it here if I am.

Vertigo1: There arn't any extras at all. Even the cast & crew thing was just a page listing the credits.

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[b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras

Rhett · November 2001

Um, a quick question. Are they in widescreen or fullscreen? And what DVD players will not play it? (dont get too technical, I have zero knowledge aboutDVD players)
Rhett, returning from a five day vacation. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]

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Biggles · November 2001

[i]The Gathering[/i] is full screen (how it was filmed), and [i]In The Beginning[/i] is in widescreen (how it was filmed).

They will play in any DVD-ROM drive from the correct region or region free. They will play in any DVD player (the kind that plugs directly into your TV) from the correct region.

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[b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
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The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras

Rhett · November 2001

[quote]Originally posted by Biggles:
[b][i]The Gathering[/i] is full screen (how it was filmed), and [i]In The Beginning[/i] is in widescreen (how it was filmed).

They will play in any DVD-ROM drive from the correct region or region free. They will play in any DVD player (the kind that plugs directly into your TV) from the correct region.

[/b][/quote]

What if I have to have it connected into a box where it is then connected to my VCR? (because my stupid TV has no connector)

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Please check out the Babylon 5 mod for Battlecruiser Millenium at [url="http://mods.firstones.com/B5BCM"]http://mods.firstones.com/B5BCM[/url]

MattD2 · November 2001

hmm, way off topic, but on the note of DVD technology, something I've always wondered... when the 'people in charge of THAT' standardized the format, why in the world did they have layer 1 track from the inner ring to the outer ring, then have layer 2 do the same?? seems it would eliminate the tracking delay if layer 2 began on the outer ring and progressed to the inner... just a random thought...

MattD

Biggles · November 2001

I was guessing that they both started from the inside because of the delay.

rhett: Same as having it plugged into your TV. That means you have a DVD player (unless it's your computer that is plugged into the VCR).

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The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

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Vertigo1 · November 2001

[quote]Originally posted by rhett:
[b] What if I have to have it connected into a box where it is then connected to my VCR? (because my stupid TV has no connector)

[/b][/quote]

Thats why they make Y cables. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]

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LightNZ · November 2001

[quote]Originally posted by MattD2:
[b]hmm, way off topic, but on the note of DVD technology, something I've always wondered... when the 'people in charge of THAT' standardized the format, why in the world did they have layer 1 track from the inner ring to the outer ring, then have layer 2 do the same?? seems it would eliminate the tracking delay if layer 2 began on the outer ring and progressed to the inner... just a random thought...

MattD[/b][/quote]

Probably because that's the ways CD technology has always worked........but yeah, you think someone could have been a bit creative!!.

It's like TV's always scanning left to right

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