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In The Beginning / Gathering DVD Important Info. Please Read

Ranger BrianRanger Brian The Anti-Scrooge
[b]R[/b]egional [b]C[/b]oding [b]E[/b]nhancement (RCE) has recently been added by Warner and Columbia to certain Region 1 DVD’s. RCE will prevent the DVD from playing on some “Multi-Region” DVD players.

[b]In The Beginning / Gathering is a RCE Disk.[/b]

If they are waiting to see how this sells before releasing the series on DVD, why the hell have they RCE'd it?

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  • Ever since they announced that they would not have any extra features I have stopped asking questions about why they do stupid things like this. It just hurts my head too much.

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  • OMG!!!, I can't believe they are doing that!!! Those F**** @#$&*#. On a television DVD of all things!!

    Maybe that is why the Region 4 version is being released so soon in Australia
  • whitestar90whitestar90 Elite Ranger
    Most probably they did this so they could track easily what the sales is like in each region....

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  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Will that affect no-region DVD-ROM's? Multiregion dvd players work quite differently to a DVD-ROM. I've heard rumours that they still do.

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  • Ranger BrianRanger Brian The Anti-Scrooge
    [quote]Originally posted by whitestar90:
    [b]Most probably they did this so they could track easily what the sales is like in each region....

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    But where's the region 2 disks? I can only find info about region 1 and 4 versions.


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    and then I took my shades off...
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    Only the insane have strength enough to prosper,
    Only those that prosper truly judge what is sane.
  • Falcon1Falcon1 Elite Ranger
    Dam!!!! So does that mean I've wasted those dollars preordering the dvd with the intention of playing it on a multiregion player in the UK???

    I bloody hope not. Geeez WB get a bloody grip. Are you trying to kill this thing before it gets off the ground?????

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  • Ranger BrianRanger Brian The Anti-Scrooge
    [quote]Originally posted by Falcon1:
    [b]Dam!!!! So does that mean I've wasted those dollars preordering the dvd with the intention of playing it on a multiregion player in the UK???

    I bloody hope not. Geeez WB get a bloody grip. Are you trying to kill this thing before it gets off the ground?????

    [/b][/quote]

    I might be wrong on this, but as I understand it this is how it works. The disk actually looks for a region 1 player, so if you have a "Multi region" player that you can manually set to region 1 then you should be OK, but if you have a "region free" player then It won't work.

    I have no idea on what will happan on a player that automatically changes region.

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    Only the insane have strength enough to prosper,
    Only those that prosper truly judge what is sane.


    [This message has been edited by Ranger Brian (edited 11-14-2001).]
  • madmaniacmadmaniac Earthforce Officer
    Basically, I think it´s the same with DVD-Rom drives. afaik, the disc itself tells the player to check for region coding on the drive. If the drive is set to "no region", the disc refuses to play. But on computers, there might be a possibility to tweak the player-software (which does the same) to convince itself the drive is locked and set for a certain region.

    On my Mac there´s a extension thats called "DVD Region Manager", which basically sets the region for the DVD-ROM, if the drive is a non-region (RPC-1) drive. So, if you tweak the extension to, say region 1, those RCE-discs should play fine. Don´t know, if there´s a similar extension involved for windows.

    note: this does not actually mean it works on MacOS (notice the "should play"!). I got a RCE-disc (region 1) at home somewhere, but never actually tested it on the DVD-ROM, since I bought the disc after I got myself a multi-region (not code-free) DVD-standalone player, so I can´t proof my theory.

    Taken from the Amazon.com item Page of In the Beginning/Gathering

    [quote]PLEASE NOTE: Warner and Columbia have recently added a Regional Coding Enhancement (RCE) to Region 1 titles like the The Patriot and The Perfect Storm. Some, but not all, of our international customers have had problems playing these enhanced discs on what are called "region-free" DVD players. For more information on RCE, click here.
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    RCE discs, afaik, only refuse to play on players set to NO region ("code-free") players (check the link in the Amazon.com quote). Players you can set to a certain region (I got an AIWA DV370 that supports that feature - its really nice if the companies that produce those players build in backdoors to change those settings... [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img] ), should work out fine (no guarantee on that, though), so Falcon1, those dollars are probably not wasted at all...

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    [This message has been edited by madmaniac (edited 11-14-2001).]
  • Falcon1Falcon1 Elite Ranger
    Thanks for the info guys. I'll keep the 'region free' thing in my mind when I start looking for a multiregion player. Don't want to get stuck with a machine that won't play what I want.

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  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    As far as I know, RPC-1 DVD-ROM drives are not region free. Instead, they rely on the software player to set a region. With a handy little utility such as DVDGenie, you can change the region for the software. Thus it will probably work (no guarentees though).

    Does anyone know of anything like a list of RCE discs? It would be handy to check if any are in my current collection to see if it goes on mine or not.

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  • madmaniacmadmaniac Earthforce Officer
    This link takes you to a site where rce-discs are listed (the same address as my aboce post). Don´t know how accurate the listing is, but if so, then it seems as if there are not that many rce-discs out there.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    The important thing to note here is that they talk about [b]players[/b], not [b]drives[/b]. They are two completely different things in the way they implement region locking, so chances are that drives will work no matter what.
    Either way, I'm going to find out in a few weeks when my Final Fantasy disc arrives.

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    [b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
    Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
    The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • Will the Region 4 disc have that region protected thing??
  • Ranger BrianRanger Brian The Anti-Scrooge
    [quote]Originally posted by LightNZ:
    [b]Will the Region 4 disc have that region protected thing??[/b][/quote]

    I don't believe so, all the info I've found on RCE is on region 1 disks


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    I have seen the future, and it was dark
    and then I took my shades off...
    --
    Only the insane have strength enough to prosper,
    Only those that prosper truly judge what is sane.
  • Andy La RubinAndy La Rubin Earthforce Officer
    [quote]Originally posted by Ranger Brian:
    [b]In The Beginning / Gathering is a RCE Disk.[/b]
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    How did you know that?
  • Ranger BrianRanger Brian The Anti-Scrooge
    [quote]Originally posted by Andy La Rubin:
    [b] How did you know that?[/b][/quote]

    I'm clever [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]

    It says so on various sites (Amazon, Play.com etc)


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    I have seen the future, and it was dark
    and then I took my shades off...
    --
    Only the insane have strength enough to prosper,
    Only those that prosper truly judge what is sane.
  • Andy La RubinAndy La Rubin Earthforce Officer
    [quote]Originally posted by Ranger Brian:
    [b]It says so on various sites (Amazon, Play.com etc)[/b][/quote]

    Amazon says only that "Warner and Columbia have recently added a Regional Coding Enhancement (RCE) to Region 1 titles like the The Patriot and The Perfect Storm". That doesn't mean that ITB/TG DVD will have RCE either...
  • Ranger BrianRanger Brian The Anti-Scrooge
    play.com actually lists B5 as a RCE disk.

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    and then I took my shades off...
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    Only the insane have strength enough to prosper,
    Only those that prosper truly judge what is sane.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    I can now confirm that RCE has no effect whatsoever on region-free DVD-ROM drives. My Final Fantasy DVD (which just arrived today) played without any trouble at all on my Asus 8x DVD drive. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]

    And I just have to say this: [b]Holy ****ing shit! The Shrek DVD rocks![/b]
    I love that Karaoke thing! And the interviews! And the movie! And EVERYTHING about it! I used to think that Fight Club (region 1) was the highest quality DVD available, especially with its huge number of extras. But now we have a new champion.

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    The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

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  • Falcon1Falcon1 Elite Ranger
    Pick me! Oh Pick me! Me! Pick Me!

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  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    I tried, but nothing happens!

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    [b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
    Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
    The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • Falcon1Falcon1 Elite Ranger
    And back onto B5 again, Amazon.co.uk state that the DVD will be available for Region 2 on March 18th, price £18.99.

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    'I have no surviving enemies! None what so ever!' Galen

    Visit my B5 site at: [url="http://www.nialb5.com"]B5 site[/url].
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    When's that Region 4 one due? Couple of weeks, wasn't it? Just wanting to know so I know when to go looking at sites and shops.

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    [b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
    Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
    The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • Region 4 is due today Biggles. 21 November!!! - yay!!!!!!
  • Falcon1Falcon1 Elite Ranger
    Somebody in Region 4 buy it quick! Then post back here immediately. Let us know how good it is!!!!

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  • I called a few shops today......and yes, they have the DVD on their shelves!!!!! - i'm gonna buy it soon
  • whitestar90whitestar90 Elite Ranger
    Just got an email yesterday that my B5 DVD has been mailed so come tomorrow guess what I'll be watching [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]

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  • Me too!!!!!!!!!!. Can't wait
  • madmaniacmadmaniac Earthforce Officer
    anyone noticed that amazon.co.uk list In the Beginning and the Gathering as separate disks, each with a price of 18.99 GBP, making that 37,98 GBP for both movies? Ain´t that a bit overpriced (considering the region 1 version with both films on one disk from amazon.com costs 14,98 USD = 10,52 GBP)?? Neither disk lists any bonus features, so whats the deal? Even if thats a mistake and both movies are on one disk, why the hell is it nearly twice as expensive than the us version? I think I´ll stick with the region-1-version...
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