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A2597
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I'm shocked!!! poor pathetic indeviduals....those games ROCKED...well...except ET... ;)
I'm shocked!!! poor pathetic indeviduals....those games ROCKED...well...except ET... ;)
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I mean how many times can they use the word "gay!?"
But what ticks me off most is that those kids were darn rude, they don't seem to show ANY respect to the old classics nor their creators. And to think that they believe that it was so long ago these games were published... "I could get a PS2 for that!" Ngh. I'd present an outdated cattle prod with forced representation to those kids for that...
Lousy PS2, I'd much rather take the ol' PONG than a lousy PS2. I've got GameCube. :D
Anyway. Atm I've got only two consoles that work, Jaguar and Megadrive II. Been playing with Megadrive mostly, Eternal Champions is a damn good beat'em up. A tad difficult maybe, but still good.
[B]I mean how many times can they use the word "gay!?" [/B][/QUOTE]
Well it's certainly evidence that homosexual tolerance is growing in the youger generations... :rolleyes:
As for kids, ignore them, they know NOTHING.
Regards,
Morden
Gorf (Space invaders), Ladybug (Pac man) and Smurf....nothing describes smurf, no relation to anything.
I used that system for years and years and years. then we got an NES 8bit, which I still own (We got it like, 2 years before the SNES came out...)
Tetris...Super Mario Brothers...fun! :) I still have that one, and it still works. ;)
yes, cattleproding the kiddies would be good for them.
[B]Its all about the old Atari platform, and RIVER RAID!! that was the SHIZNIT!! [/B][/QUOTE]
Rock on brother, I still remember playing Lemmings, Oh No Not More Lemmings and Akari Warriors on my old Atari ST. :cool:
After that, it was a step-up to the good old Mega-Drive. ;)
Regards,
Morden
Anyways... you old people crack me up. :D
Kids don't know, and don't like, the games that you used to play. So what? Games have come so far--from consoles with 8 ppi graphics and sounds reminiscent of a motherboard gone mad--to 3-dimensional worlds, filled with interactivity. Games can do thousands more things nowadays than most people ever dreamed of while playing on their NES. Why the **** does it matter if they've ever seen an or not Atari before? It DOESN'T. Because it's irrelevant, like modern gaming systems (and games) will become when the next innovation rolls around. It's like if old car enthusiasts started saying saying that the younger generation was a bunch of fools, because they've never driven a Model T. Sure, you could do it, but what are you learning? You're learning that cars used to be cheap boxes with engines on them.
And I don't subscribe to the belief that older games are better, because they're "simple fun," not mindless action like modern games. "Simple fun" essentially translates to "technologically unadvanced," as far as I am concerned. Sure, there's a lot of shovelware nowadays that isn't worth the CD it's recorded on, but that's because anyone can make a game nowadays. Console companies like Atari and Nintendo used to enforce which games got onto their systems and which didn't, because when they didn't, so many terrible games were created that no one knew what to buy.
Games nowadays offer levels of interactivity undreamed of by the Atari and NES era; naturally, this makes games more complex, ergo, intellectually stimulating. Games like Counter-Strike and Unreal Tournament are often branded as mindless slaughter by the out of touch older generations, but ask anyone who plays Counter-Strike, or so much as [i]understands[/i] it, and they'll tell you that it's a lot more. The strategy doesn't involve "where should I place this block," so if you consider Tetris to be the epitome of the gaming revolution, then go right ahead and stick with your Atari.
Just yesterday, I was waterproofing our new shed with my dad, and he started asking me about that "Counter Murder game" that I always play; I said that it was a Terrorist vs Counter Terrorist simulation. He stifled a laugh and kept on painting. I guess tactical simulation is more geeky than bouncing a square ball back and forth with a rotating wheel all day. :rolleyes:
GARRRRRRRR! Rant over.
[B]Rock on brother, I still remember playing Lemmings, Oh No Not More Lemmings and Akari Warriors on my old Atari ST. :cool:
After that, it was a step-up to the good old Mega-Drive. ;)
Regards,
Morden [/B][/QUOTE]
From my cousins atari ST, that some how spent alot of time in my hands ;) (hey, they were girls, they didnt use it!) and my Commadore VIC 20, we went to a sega master system, and after that I had my very own 386/16 to play with and I switched to PC games mostly. However my friends have been quite generous about letting me use their consoles ;)
[B]BEFORE I SAY ANYTHING, I'll just start by saying that YES I have played every game listed there (save that crazy football contraption, but I've played similar games), and YES I was born in the late 80's.
GARRRRRRRR! Rant over. [/B][/QUOTE]
Ohh shut up you little brat! you wouldnt know good game play if it bit you on the ass! ;)
The problem is from the perspective of us "older" users is that often designers are using the "oooh pretty" factor to prop up bad ideas. Not all the time mind you, we do love pretty graphics combined with damn good game play, but we see so little of it.
For example take RPG's to me the pinnacle of RPGdom was either Ultima 5 or 6, and nothing released recently, has compared.
Morrowind is great, NWN rocks, but still, they arent quite right.. although I have to admit NWN and Baldurs gate are damn good RPGS and probably even eclipse the grand hey day of the "Gold Box" D&D games...
god, now THAT dates me ;)
I'm only 19....I know some others in this thread are around my age...
[B]Ohh shut up you little brat! you wouldnt know good game play if it bit you on the ass! ;)
The problem is from the perspective of us "older" users is that often designers are using the "oooh pretty" factor to prop up bad ideas. Not all the time mind you, we do love pretty graphics combined with damn good game play, but we see so little of it.
For example take RPG's to me the pinnacle of RPGdom was either Ultima 5 or 6, and nothing released recently, has compared.
Morrowind is great, NWN rocks, but still, they arent quite right.. although I have to admit NWN and Baldurs gate are damn good RPGS and probably even eclipse the grand hey day of the "Gold Box" D&D games...
god, now THAT dates me ;) [/B][/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'd have to agree with that, to an extent... I personally never liked the "really" old RPGs, but the best I've ever played is Baldur's Gate II--hell, that might be the best GAME I've ever played, of any genre. I haven't been impressed by a single one since it. NWN had a terrible plot, Morrowind was just... ugh, and Baldur's Gate II is so awesome, that I haven't tried any others recently. :) And there are plenty of games that value graphics over plot or interactivity, but the only reason they're more common now than back in the days of Atari, is because Atari didn't have what the normal Human would call "graphics." ;)
[B]I'm "old"
I'm only 19....I know some others in this thread are around my age... [/B][/QUOTE]
I'm 16. I don't mean you're old in the common sense of the word, but in the ever-evolving world of gaming, 3 years does make quite a difference. Especially back then. :)
I'm 19 too! Wheeeeeee!
Yeah, old games rule.
[B]Lousy PS2, I'd much rather take the ol' PONG than a lousy PS2. I've got GameCube. :D [/B][/QUOTE]
always knew you were a cool cat data :D
*powers up volcano cannon*
History is important, no matter what sort of history you are dealing with. Those who don't pay attention to history are doomed to repeat it... as the old cliche goes.
And your choice of examples, the T ford is both flawed and quite poor for two major reasons, my Dad restores Model T fords, owns five and maintains most of our States T fords in one way or another. You cut a T ford... I bleed.. capiche ? :)
Secondly, T's were the 'pong' of the car industry and they share the same sort of place in the respective histories.
T's are also ground breaking things... the first production line produced vehicle, the first to use a flywheel magneto, the first to utlise a planetary transmission, the first to use vanadium and other exotic steels and alloys... etc etc etc etc...
Car makers have been revisiting technology developed in the T Ford ever since its production. For instance, a T has a coil per cylinder/plug, modern cars now have a coil per plug, they've come full circle from one coil per plug in the T, to one coil for all cylinders and back again. Why ? Because it turns out you gain in reliability, in efficiency and power with a multicoil system.
There is always something to be learned from history, even eyeblink lengths of time like that in the video games industry.
While I'm at a loss to think of an example right here, right now for video games, other than the 'storyline is king' example cited above, this old axiom always hold true no matter where you apply it.
Learn from history, or you are doomed to repeat it.
[B]I'm "old"
I'm only 19....I know some others in this thread are around my age... [/B][/QUOTE]
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[B]I'm "old"
I'm only 19....I know some others in this thread are around my age... [/B][/QUOTE]
Same here, but I had the advantage of my parents being stingy enough so that the only consoles I could play on were a few years out of date. ;)
Regards,
Morden
Civilisation and Civ2!!
Now those are games that really have stood the test of time.
the_exile: Have you played BG2: Throne of Bhaal? If you haven't, I highly recommend it. By the end of playing BG1, BG2 and BG2:ToB, you feel like you've lived a saga. I think it's one of the most epic games (counting them as one, since essentially they are) I've ever played.
Civilisation is great. I still think it's the best of the series. It has the best balance of simplicity and flexibility and fun.
First SB: Yes I agree whit you that history is important.
Aggamemnon: Yes CIV 2 is cool, I never played Civilization until last year and imo it's the same as Civ2 only Civ2 got better grafics.
Biggles: Yeah! BG series got the most epic story ever. Also there are so many side quests that you won't get bored.
IMHO, CIV 1 is much better than Civ2, but probably that's just because it's the first....
for RPG, i'm really astonished no one mentioned Fallout. Now that was one helluva game ;)