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Mozilla 1.5 released!
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Start your downloads people! :)
[url]www.mozilla.org[/url]
[url]www.mozilla.org[/url]
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[B]Start your downloads people! :)
[url]www.mozilla.org[/url] [/B][/QUOTE]
so?
Because it makes me more evil!!
[B]I prefer Mozilla Firebird 0.7 better. [/B][/QUOTE]
I agree with the person who's name is too long to type. Firebird 0.7 just plain rocks.
[B]I agree with the person who's name is too long to type. [/B][/QUOTE]Finnish names are traditionally too long to type (the main reason for my selection was that Google can't find this one). :-)
[B]if it still takes forever to load, not really all that interested [/B][/QUOTE]
It only takes forever to load if you're running a POS 486......or stupid enough to buy a pre-fab PC with shitloads of crap you don't need running in the background.
Mozilla loads in 3 seconds on my box (running a 700MHz Duron with 256MB PC2700 DDR)
[B]Do you have quicklaunch enabled? [/B][/QUOTE]
No. I don't like crap running in the background.
You can download and test IE.
You can download and test Mozilla.
You can't download and test Opera easily - becuase they want to charge you after a short demo period.
This makes it VERY hard to make sure webpages are compatible with Opera.
Plus, often webpages check browser version inside Javascript so it knows browser irregularities of code. Opera isn't one that is ever checked in prebuilt code. Becuase of this, lots of webpages don't support Opera in Javascript. Also, I do not know where to find a good reference of accepted Opera browser access commands in Javascript, such as how to rewrite the source of an ******. These things are what good reference guides are for. Mozilla has good ref guides, but often hard to find what you want. IE has a TON of good reference guides that never work with other browsers. Opera doesn't seem to have any! It makes it very hard to code for a browser where they don't tell you what works and what doesn't...and you can't easily get a copy of the browser to test sites on.
I can very much understand why Opera isn't well supported. I have written a lot of websites. And not one have I been able to make work on Opera that used specialized Javascript when the site worked on IE and Mozilla. And I do have access to Opera.
[B]Eclecticonaut... Your explorations are not only limited to astronomy, then? :p [/B][/QUOTE]No, but it is the mother of all sciences and therefore an important element of all explorations.
[B]Yep...the simple reason is:
You can download and test IE.
You can download and test Mozilla.
You can't download and test Opera easily - becuase they want to charge you after a short demo period.
This makes it VERY hard to make sure webpages are compatible with Opera.
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You can't download Opera and test easily? I downloaded it only to test how it is and I fell in love with it. I got the advertisment version, and I don't even notice the advertisement.
[B]It only takes forever to load if you're running a POS 486......or stupid enough to buy a pre-fab PC with shitloads of crap you don't need running in the background.
Mozilla loads in 3 seconds on my box (running a 700MHz Duron with 256MB PC2700 DDR) [/B][/QUOTE]
wanna keep insulting me fine go ahead, i just wont have any respect for you and your opinions.
and for what it is worth whateva you think i did, i apologize.
[B]wanna keep insulting me fine go ahead, i just wont have any respect for you and your opinions. [/B][/QUOTE]
I wasn't insulting you [b]personally[/b], just the ignorant saps that just don't know any better. The damn things are so problematic its insane. Hell, a damn Dell in one of the labs on campus got a cause of heatsink-falling-off-processoritus....which turned a 1.8GHz p4 into a nice scorched paperweight. (something Dells are famous for) Don't get me started on how shitty Gateways and Comcrap's are. I used to work in a tech support call center and I'd get calls all the time about comcraps fucking up some way or another. A good friend of mine worked at a call-center that Gateway and a couple other manufacturers out-sourced to. You would be SUPRISED at the crap he got calls on about Gateways....
[B]I wasn't insulting you [b]personally[/b], just the ignorant saps that just don't know any better. The damn things are so problematic its insane. Hell, a damn Dell in one of the labs on campus got a cause of heatsink-falling-off-processoritus....which turned a 1.8GHz p4 into a nice scorched paperweight. (something Dells are famous for) Don't get me started on how shitty Gateways and Comcrap's are. I used to work in a tech support call center and I'd get calls all the time about comcraps fucking up some way or another. A good friend of mine worked at a call-center that Gateway and a couple other manufacturers out-sourced to. You would be SUPRISED at the crap he got calls on about Gateways.... [/B][/QUOTE]
As a self-proclaimed tech geek, I'd recommend you burn your money instead of buying a Compaq or Gateway...ESPECIALLY Gateway, if you go for their upgrade-every-two-years deal. My friend's 2-year old Gateway has a 5-gig hard drive, a low-end P3, and built-in cards. A lot of good games don't FIT on a 5 gig after installing Windows... and he paid roughly the same amount that I paid to build my rig, which is quite the opposite of bad. :)
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Random Chaos [/i]
[B]I have written a lot of websites. And not one have I been able to make work on Opera that used specialized Javascript when the site worked on IE and Mozilla. And I do have access to Opera. [/B][/QUOTE]
I've written a lot of websites too with TextEditor and the help of SelfHTML. And [b]Opera is simply great[/b]. It respects the new rules of the W3 consortium (for IE you have to add the transitional or strict rules), the Javascript operation is the fastest of all browsers ... you just shouldn't use the [i]wrong[/i] Javascript1.2 term thats allowed in IE ... and all pages works fine for me. I'm buying at ebay, chatting in forums and look at media sites with Opera. The new version v7.2 is the best browser you can get.
or.....
a free browser with banner ads, does nearly all of the above....and isn't fully skinnable.
Gee, which one to go with.... ;)
Either way, its not that source open security holes known as Internet Explorer. :D