[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Data Crystal [/i]
[B]Hmm... I just started working on a poster a few days back and even if it might take a long while, when it's finished I'll post a pic here somewhere... And Sanfam can ban me all he likes after that. :D
Oh, and Deathstrike was that Magneto's Wolverine-duplicate? I remember her now, not bad at all... I could actually relate to her pretty much, since my hand joints crack more than a roomful of potheads jumping on corn... Whenever I feel that my fingers are at less than a 90% mobility, I loose them up: crack, crack, crack, crack, crack,crack,crack,crack,crack,crack,Crnk. After which I usually get pretty intrigued looks from everyone in the room. A good place to look around and shout "What!?". :D [/B][/QUOTE]
Magnetos? Pff! She was Stryker's zombie.
Relate to her? So.. you got your bones laced with adamantium and a bitch of an healing power? :p
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Lord Refa [/i]
[B]Magnetos? Pff! She was Stryker's zombie.
Relate to her? So.. you got your bones laced with adamantium and a bitch of an healing power? :p [/B][/QUOTE]
Ah, bugger. Memory probs, Stryker, yeah. And no, but my fingers crack as much as hers and I too feel like an experiment gone awry more than often. :) Those Wolverine-claws would rock, though. And about the healing power... during the last 5 years I haven't been sick for more than 3 days in a row, and I only recall 2 occasions where I actually was sick for 3 days.
Striker: Umm... No, she's not completely naked. There will be an ivy around her. But it will only cover up 50% of the 2/3 crucial parts. But hey, if I think it's good enough a result to finish drawing it, I will post it here. It's not going to be explicit or offensive though. --And she's accepted and approved the thing that's being done to her in the poster... (Not what you think, you sick bastard. :) And no more spoilers...) ;)
But since we have had some of these incidents here I think I'll ask the mod's permission first, just for the heck of it. :) Might be in the production for a few months, though.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Striker [/i]
[B]As long as the poster doesn't show anyone completely naked, you're fine. [/B][/QUOTE]
hehe, what means "completely naked"? Like I've seen I shouldn't post "anything naked" on RadiusCo Server even if it's only the upper part of the body. ;)
Well, of course thats okay :) but I recommend to you say this explicit in a Sticky thread on this board. B/c for example me isn't that familiar with that strict rules from other bigger forums, e.g. [url]http://www.3dcenter.de[/url] - big ger hardware site, where pics are uploaded that really could be a kind of pornography (instead to that I posted here).
... esp Biggles knows what I mean that a [b]previous[/b] hint is important and what I think about the manner of action that happened in this case.
Especially when such thread occurs the moderators should post an info belonging the allowed posted media.
Hypothetic question to the mods 'bout this: If I upload such a [b][SIZE=4]non-pornographic![/size][SIZE=3] pic[/b][/size] - like I posted here before - to my server and post a link to it in this forum, would that be okay?
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Captain,Simmonds [/i]
[B]But seeing women just being topless isnt realy porn, well where i'm from. Because women can go topless in public where I live [/B][/QUOTE]
Hehe, it wasn't porn (= topless), but like Exile said the provider is american and the rules must be followed. But furthermore like I already said such unfamiliar strict rules should be said clearer, e.g. with a sticky thread =) .
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Phi [/i]
[B]the definition of porn[/B][/QUOTE]From Britannia.com: ...the representation of erotic behaviour in books, pictures, statues, motion pictures, etc., that is intended to cause sexual excitement.
The word pornography, derived from the Greek porni (?prostitute?) and graphein (?to write?), was originally defined as any work of art or literature depicting the life of prostitutes.
Public nudity ... thats normal here .. and for sure, no pornography :D
Annotation to the difference between pornography and nudity:
Today as I visited with my girlfriend a beautiful castle near of my town where also families with childs were and other couples ... was a woman who shot act photos from a man (he was naked) and nobody had a problem with. B/c thats no pornography, thats fine art photography.
Another thing is that here in europe (esp germany or croatia) we have big FKK areas what means that you can be completely naked everywhere at the beach or e.g. in a holiday camp. It's the same like in sauna areas, just a bigger region.
Let me point something out first. I was telling Data Crystal that an image, photograph, etc. that doesn't show a person naked is fine. If the person is naked and there are censor bars across the private areas, then I have no problem.
However, posting of "uncensored" images is prohibited. Our server has policies regarding such material for a number of reasons.
1. First, a lot of people under the age of 18 go to our hosted sites.
2. Our upstream providers prohibit adult content.
3. Hosting adult material opens up a whole can of legalities that I just don't want to mess with.
Now, you were banned from FO in violation of the adult content clause. You violated both the policies of RadiusCo Web and Firstones.Com. If you would like to take a look at our policies, please go to [url]http://www.radiusco.com/policies.php[/url].
Sanfam is going to rewrite the forum rules so that everyone will understand what is allowed and what is not.
Now, you must remember that American culture is VERY different from our European counterparts. Rules, expressions, images, etc. are interpreted differently. What you may consider as art could be considered pornography by someone else.
So, please be careful of what you post or upload in the future.
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I'd like to use your definition of "pornography" as an example. Here is the definition of the word from dictionary.com:
por·nog·ra·phy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pôr-ngr-f)
n.
1. Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.
2. The presentation or production of this material.
3. Lurid or sensational material: “Recent novels about the Holocaust have kept Hitler well offstage [so as] to avoid the... pornography of the era” (Morris Dickstein).
It's a slightly different definition taken from another source. So, do you see what I'm talking about regarding different "interpretations"? Please do not take a definition too literally because there are also "implied" definitions of a word that you must consider.
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You mention that you are “unfamiliar” regarding such "strict rules". These rules are not strict. The majority of the web hosting industry has adopted "no pornography or adult content" standards. It has been like that for years mainly due to the reasons I stated above.
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Now, if you have any further questions, comments, etc. then please direct them to either Sanfam or myself off the forums. Please do not discuss this topic in the thread anymore as it has already been hijacked enough.
Let me just add something here... (oh, and I don't mind the derail, this is pretty amusing on it's own. :D)
Roi: We're Europeans, and as such we're much more liberal. I think it's a good thing, and so do you, it seems. But the yanks necessarily don't agree. Respect that.
Simply put: Even as I enjoy seeing constricted and hopefully very-politically-correct americans taken to a public sauna (Or behind it ;)) from time to time much to their amusement, bafflement and embarrasment just to see their reaction to this, THEY'RE the ones taken to the sauna. The sauna isn't brought to their living room.
When it comes to the 'net, no other rules apply other than what people want and do not want to see. The board provider is an american and he's chosen that he doesn't want to see nudity or offensive material on the boards. And you should respect that, not bend the rules whenever possible.
I didn't come up with this, but it's the golden rule of any BBS: The board isn't a democracy, it's a dictatorship. You want something else? Leave the country. :)
And people, even if the conversation is a bit different from the thread title, any candidate for the MBWOT still applies. :)
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Striker [/i]
[B]Sanfam is going to rewrite the forum rules so that everyone will understand what is allowed and what is not.[/B][/QUOTE]Fine, that is the main point I intended with my post :) .
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Striker [/i]
[B]Now, you must remember that American culture is VERY different from our European counterparts. Rules, expressions, images, etc. are interpreted differently. What you may consider as art could be considered pornography by someone else.
So, please be careful of what you post or upload in the future.[/B][/QUOTE]I just wanted to put a little bit alternation to the board to make it more manifold, never wanted to be offensive. Of course, I'll respect the different attitude in future.
[QUOTE][b]Now, if you have any further questions, comments, etc. then please direct them to either Sanfam or myself off the forums.[/B][/QUOTE]Yes, I've spoken already per ICQ with Sanfam and discussed per Mail with Biggles. Here, I just wanted to explain the occasion from my view besides the mentioned intention.
Btw, thx for the constructive answer. :) Also to Data Crystal.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Data Crystal [/i]
[B]I didn't come up with this, but it's the golden rule of any BBS: The board isn't a democracy, it's a dictatorship.[/B][/QUOTE]Hehe, if the dictator and his government is clever, intelligent and merciful the dictatorship is better than the democracy b/c decisions can be make quite faster than in a democracy. Unfortunately - like the past has shown many times - nearby no dictator had the abilities (character and/or skills) to be a good sovereign. :/
You know guys, you should go out, and get pictures of the lovely ladies you know.. WITH THEIR PERMISSION DAMNIT! and post em, and a quick little blurb about them, weve all got ladies that are lovers, friends, or just there somehow to make our lives a little bit brighter, even if they are annoying us to death while they do it. :D
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Tyvar [/i]
[B]You know guys, you should go out, and get pictures of the lovely ladies you know.. WITH THEIR PERMISSION DAMNIT! and post em, and a quick little blurb about them, weve all got ladies that are lovers, friends, or just there somehow to make our lives a little bit brighter, even if they are annoying us to death while they do it. :D [/B][/QUOTE]Sometimes many small deads can be really wonderful ;) :D .
Nice idea! Better than posting and discussing about unknown ladies.
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[B]Hmm... I just started working on a poster a few days back and even if it might take a long while, when it's finished I'll post a pic here somewhere... And Sanfam can ban me all he likes after that. :D
Oh, and Deathstrike was that Magneto's Wolverine-duplicate? I remember her now, not bad at all... I could actually relate to her pretty much, since my hand joints crack more than a roomful of potheads jumping on corn... Whenever I feel that my fingers are at less than a 90% mobility, I loose them up: crack, crack, crack, crack, crack,crack,crack,crack,crack,crack,Crnk. After which I usually get pretty intrigued looks from everyone in the room. A good place to look around and shout "What!?". :D [/B][/QUOTE]
Magnetos? Pff! She was Stryker's zombie.
Relate to her? So.. you got your bones laced with adamantium and a bitch of an healing power? :p
[B]Getting back to facial beauty...
I think the eyes of a woman are probably the strongest feature, second being the hair, and third complexion...
Anybody have any thoughts pro or con? [/B][/QUOTE]
Eyes are indeed the strongest feasture. After that, I think mouth and in some cases complexion.
And the female body. The backside dominates for me. Lower back and butt.
[B]Magnetos? Pff! She was Stryker's zombie.
Relate to her? So.. you got your bones laced with adamantium and a bitch of an healing power? :p [/B][/QUOTE]
Ah, bugger. Memory probs, Stryker, yeah. And no, but my fingers crack as much as hers and I too feel like an experiment gone awry more than often. :) Those Wolverine-claws would rock, though. And about the healing power... during the last 5 years I haven't been sick for more than 3 days in a row, and I only recall 2 occasions where I actually was sick for 3 days.
Striker: Umm... No, she's not completely naked. There will be an ivy around her. But it will only cover up 50% of the 2/3 crucial parts. But hey, if I think it's good enough a result to finish drawing it, I will post it here. It's not going to be explicit or offensive though. --And she's accepted and approved the thing that's being done to her in the poster... (Not what you think, you sick bastard. :) And no more spoilers...) ;)
But since we have had some of these incidents here I think I'll ask the mod's permission first, just for the heck of it. :) Might be in the production for a few months, though.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Striker [/i]
[B]As long as the poster doesn't show anyone completely naked, you're fine. [/B][/QUOTE]
hehe, what means "completely naked"? Like I've seen I shouldn't post "anything naked" on RadiusCo Server even if it's only the upper part of the body. ;)
Well, of course thats okay :) but I recommend to you say this explicit in a Sticky thread on this board. B/c for example me isn't that familiar with that strict rules from other bigger forums, e.g. [url]http://www.3dcenter.de[/url] - big ger hardware site, where pics are uploaded that really could be a kind of pornography (instead to that I posted here).
... esp Biggles knows what I mean that a [b]previous[/b] hint is important and what I think about the manner of action that happened in this case.
Especially when such thread occurs the moderators should post an info belonging the allowed posted media.
Hypothetic question to the mods 'bout this: If I upload such a [b][SIZE=4]non-pornographic![/size][SIZE=3] pic[/b][/size] - like I posted here before - to my server and post a link to it in this forum, would that be okay?
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Captain,Simmonds [/i]
[B]But seeing women just being topless isnt realy porn, well where i'm from. Because women can go topless in public where I live [/B][/QUOTE]
Hehe, it wasn't porn (= topless), but like Exile said the provider is american and the rules must be followed. But furthermore like I already said such unfamiliar strict rules should be said clearer, e.g. with a sticky thread =) .
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Phi [/i]
[B]the definition of porn[/B][/QUOTE]From Britannia.com: ...the representation of erotic behaviour in books, pictures, statues, motion pictures, etc., that is intended to cause sexual excitement.
The word pornography, derived from the Greek porni (?prostitute?) and graphein (?to write?), was originally defined as any work of art or literature depicting the life of prostitutes.
Annotation to the difference between pornography and nudity:
Today as I visited with my girlfriend a beautiful castle near of my town where also families with childs were and other couples ... was a woman who shot act photos from a man (he was naked) and nobody had a problem with. B/c thats no pornography, thats fine art photography.
Another thing is that here in europe (esp germany or croatia) we have big FKK areas what means that you can be completely naked everywhere at the beach or e.g. in a holiday camp. It's the same like in sauna areas, just a bigger region.
Let me point something out first. I was telling Data Crystal that an image, photograph, etc. that doesn't show a person naked is fine. If the person is naked and there are censor bars across the private areas, then I have no problem.
However, posting of "uncensored" images is prohibited. Our server has policies regarding such material for a number of reasons.
1. First, a lot of people under the age of 18 go to our hosted sites.
2. Our upstream providers prohibit adult content.
3. Hosting adult material opens up a whole can of legalities that I just don't want to mess with.
Now, you were banned from FO in violation of the adult content clause. You violated both the policies of RadiusCo Web and Firstones.Com. If you would like to take a look at our policies, please go to [url]http://www.radiusco.com/policies.php[/url].
Sanfam is going to rewrite the forum rules so that everyone will understand what is allowed and what is not.
Now, you must remember that American culture is VERY different from our European counterparts. Rules, expressions, images, etc. are interpreted differently. What you may consider as art could be considered pornography by someone else.
So, please be careful of what you post or upload in the future.
====
I'd like to use your definition of "pornography" as an example. Here is the definition of the word from dictionary.com:
por·nog·ra·phy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pôr-ngr-f)
n.
1. Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.
2. The presentation or production of this material.
3. Lurid or sensational material: “Recent novels about the Holocaust have kept Hitler well offstage [so as] to avoid the... pornography of the era” (Morris Dickstein).
It's a slightly different definition taken from another source. So, do you see what I'm talking about regarding different "interpretations"? Please do not take a definition too literally because there are also "implied" definitions of a word that you must consider.
====
You mention that you are “unfamiliar” regarding such "strict rules". These rules are not strict. The majority of the web hosting industry has adopted "no pornography or adult content" standards. It has been like that for years mainly due to the reasons I stated above.
====
Now, if you have any further questions, comments, etc. then please direct them to either Sanfam or myself off the forums. Please do not discuss this topic in the thread anymore as it has already been hijacked enough.
Thank you.
Roi: We're Europeans, and as such we're much more liberal. I think it's a good thing, and so do you, it seems. But the yanks necessarily don't agree. Respect that.
Simply put: Even as I enjoy seeing constricted and hopefully very-politically-correct americans taken to a public sauna (Or behind it ;)) from time to time much to their amusement, bafflement and embarrasment just to see their reaction to this, THEY'RE the ones taken to the sauna. The sauna isn't brought to their living room.
When it comes to the 'net, no other rules apply other than what people want and do not want to see. The board provider is an american and he's chosen that he doesn't want to see nudity or offensive material on the boards. And you should respect that, not bend the rules whenever possible.
I didn't come up with this, but it's the golden rule of any BBS: The board isn't a democracy, it's a dictatorship. You want something else? Leave the country. :)
And people, even if the conversation is a bit different from the thread title, any candidate for the MBWOT still applies. :)
[B]Sanfam is going to rewrite the forum rules so that everyone will understand what is allowed and what is not.[/B][/QUOTE]Fine, that is the main point I intended with my post :) .
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Striker [/i]
[B]Now, you must remember that American culture is VERY different from our European counterparts. Rules, expressions, images, etc. are interpreted differently. What you may consider as art could be considered pornography by someone else.
So, please be careful of what you post or upload in the future.[/B][/QUOTE]I just wanted to put a little bit alternation to the board to make it more manifold, never wanted to be offensive. Of course, I'll respect the different attitude in future.
[QUOTE][b]Now, if you have any further questions, comments, etc. then please direct them to either Sanfam or myself off the forums.[/B][/QUOTE]Yes, I've spoken already per ICQ with Sanfam and discussed per Mail with Biggles. Here, I just wanted to explain the occasion from my view besides the mentioned intention.
Btw, thx for the constructive answer. :) Also to Data Crystal.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Data Crystal [/i]
[B]I didn't come up with this, but it's the golden rule of any BBS: The board isn't a democracy, it's a dictatorship.[/B][/QUOTE]Hehe, if the dictator and his government is clever, intelligent and merciful the dictatorship is better than the democracy b/c decisions can be make quite faster than in a democracy. Unfortunately - like the past has shown many times - nearby no dictator had the abilities (character and/or skills) to be a good sovereign. :/
.. stopping posting OT stuff now ...
[B]You know guys, you should go out, and get pictures of the lovely ladies you know.. WITH THEIR PERMISSION DAMNIT! and post em, and a quick little blurb about them, weve all got ladies that are lovers, friends, or just there somehow to make our lives a little bit brighter, even if they are annoying us to death while they do it. :D [/B][/QUOTE]Sometimes many small deads can be really wonderful ;) :D .
Nice idea! Better than posting and discussing about unknown ladies.