Does anyone of you eat oranges and if so do you find seeds often from those?
My sister and others in family rarely finds seeds or only couple of them from whole orange.
But just wait when I'll start to eat one of those:
I'll find always seeds and at least five, more often nearly ten (or even more) seeds and it's not so uncommon for me to find tree seeds from one piece (or whatever is that english word) of orange!
How about if every time you fall in love with a gal that you [b]know[/b] you could live with happily for the rest of your life (and on from there if you believe in that sort of thing) and the only thing she wants you as is what you are to her: a 'hell of a good friend'?
Happens to me every time. [b]_EVERY_[/b] goddamn time... People seem to love my personality but no-one seems to love me.
So what does that make me? Gay?
Biggles<font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Data Crystal [/i]
[B]How about if every time you fall in love with a gal that you [b]know[/b] you could live with happily for the rest of your life (and on from there if you believe in that sort of thing) and the only thing she wants you as is what you are to her: a 'hell of a good friend'?[/B][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Data Crystal [/i]
[B]Ohh... you have it tough.
How about if every time you fall in love with a gal that you [b]know[/b] you could live with happily for the rest of your life (and on from there if you believe in that sort of thing) and the only thing she wants you as is what you are to her: a 'hell of a good friend'?
Happens to me every time. [b]_EVERY_[/b] goddamn time... People seem to love my personality but no-one seems to love me.
[/B][/QUOTE]
Sounds sooooo familiar.
ShadowDancerWhen I say, "Why aye, gadgie," in my heart I say, "Och aye, laddie."London, UK
yeah i know the feeling.........just im usually on the other side. they are the ones id want as friends, while i seem to be the one they want to marry, usually within about a week of meeting me:confused: is it me?:rolleyes:
......tho i did meet a very nice lass the other day who was eyeing me up more that i was eyeing her up, and thats saying something!:D
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Captain,Simmonds [/i]
[B]Heh, shes prefect for Refa:D
"mass murderers" "serial killers" "anime" "blood"
on anthor note I should put a better pic of my self on Hot or not [/B][/QUOTE]
There's a pic of you here?!? I ever clicked on all the links! hehehe
As for Refa I don't know him well enough only what you say. And what you say..... probably best not to know. ;)
[QUOTE][B]How about if every time you fall in love with a gal that you know you could live with happily for the rest of your life (and on from there if you believe in that sort of thing) and the only thing she wants you as is what you are to her: a 'hell of a good friend'?[/B][/QUOTE]
I've been there too! Its hard. I mean they say friendship last longer but.....when you really fall for someone well for me it was too hard to be just friends. So I sympathsize with you there. :) Even worse when you know that they do fancy you but don't want to. Soooo frustrating that was! To this day I will never understand why.
But I think its true though that you often meet someone when you least expect than when you're trying.
:)
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ShadowDancer [/i]
[B]yeah i know the feeling.........just im usually on the other side. they are the ones id want as friends, while i seem to be the one they want to marry, usually within about a week of meeting me:confused: is it me?:rolleyes:
......tho i did meet a very nice lass the other day who was eyeing me up more that i was eyeing her up, and thats saying something!:D [/B][/QUOTE]
What? You're on the other side? I want to be that to!
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by C_Mon [/i]
[B]What? You're on the other side? I want to be that to! [/B][/QUOTE]
Hmm... Uh-oh.. I think I might've got caught up in that kinda thing too...
And both from Thailand actually. yikes.
anyway.. Okay. Basically, no real feelings for either of those. The one I'm "with" atm isn't all that trustworthy I reckon, but she's got nice body and that kinda shiiat, and the other one, well, she seems to want me to break up with that other girl. She's a bit older than me, and well.. in some ways more to my liking. But hell if it ain't difficult.
I wouldn't really want her for more than the occasional sex between friends. heh. Nah. Just kidding. sort of. I mean, she's not the one I'd like to spend too much time with I suppose. Dont think I could love her. Just friends be good enough for me.
Honestly. It bugs me when girls that I have no feelings for start to call me sweetness, or babe, and putting those heart smileys and so on to me.
For crying out loud! I'm not rich or handsome. Sure.. I've seen some sorta okay looking babes at work, that are married to some bum looking finnish types, but I sure as hell wouldn't be going that way. :)
I remember her, I clicked yes on the gal ages ago for chrissakes! :D No reply. :P Damn, nobody wants me. *bangs head against wall* x)
[Jealous]Ohh... I remember now, you're a paying customer. :p That explains it. ;) She doesn't have to be overly interested and make the first move with you, just 'click yes'. :D [/Jealous]
Ahh...crap, what am I babbling about, I don't care about her... I love [b][i]her[/i][/b]...
Oh yeah, and I understand that my situation is far from being unique but somewhere deep down I almost hope she'd stop SMS'ing, e-mailing and chatting with me on a regular daily basis as she's not interested. She's got a boyfriend she's serious about, for chrissakes... Nah, scratch that. I wouldn't want her out of touch with me, I'd hate that. There aren't that many true kindred spirits out there for my kind.
She's become the other person that I can call an actual true friend now and wouldn't want to live without her in my life in one form or another. (Yes, mates, acquaintances and people you know are one thing and true friends completely another.) And I know she feels the same way at least to some extent and that she's in the same situation as far as the friend thing goes. I'm not going to let go of her no matter how much it hurts as I know that she's there for life as I'm there for her but... damn, this is getting complicated. And it's just me. My problem. If I could just stop feeling so damn much every now and then... It would be so easy if you could just choose whom to feel for and to whom not to...
...but that would make it just that little bit too much easier, wouldn't it?
Sigh. Well, going to meet her next week. Hope I'll be able to get my head straight with that.
ShadowDancerWhen I say, "Why aye, gadgie," in my heart I say, "Och aye, laddie."London, UK
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Data Crystal [/i]
[B]Sigh. Well, going to meet her next week. Hope I'll be able to get my head straight with that. [/B][/QUOTE]
Refa: Oh, ok, then you really got someone interested. She seems nice enough, try her out. :)
And Shadowdancer... thanks, but I'm not in the mood for jokes about the subject although you made me smile briefly. :) I'm referring to the head between me' shoulders, and believe it or not, It's the end of me' body that does all the thinking. Although the part of my body that thinks for me in this matter is cased inside my chest.
ShadowDancerWhen I say, "Why aye, gadgie," in my heart I say, "Och aye, laddie."London, UK
Data crystal, from my experience girls are really complicated when it comes to the firend vs lover thing. Maybe her boyfriend does not stimulate her emotionaly, and intelectualy in the way that you do, but at the same time she sees him as atractive and able to fufill her physical needs. So what ends up happening is that because both of you serve your respective roles, she never has to choose, and she just keeps using you to talk too, express herself, and help her out with problems. Now i'm not saying she is bad or manipulative, its just how chicks act under certain situations. They don't get that guys will fall for them if they keep leading them on like that.
A lso I've found that chicks when they are young and immature admire certain qualities in man like loyalty, respect, emotional understanding, and sensitivity, but when it comes to romance they go for others like boldness, rashness, high confidence, athletic. Girls respond to strength above all else, they want to be lead and basicly swept off their feet.
Unfortunately guys who are compasionate and sensitive often fail to express strength in front of chicks even though they may have strong character traits. Thus chicks may love to have friends who are sensitive, but they will never respect them in the way thats nessesary for them to be sexualy or romaniticaly interested. Look at b5 for example Lennier has been there beside Dellen for years, doing everything she asks, loving and supporting her every decision. Then all of a sudden this brash passionate Earth guy comes along that kicks ass and doesn't back down from a challenge, and he is by his own admission not good with relationaships, yet Dellen falls for him and Lennier gets screwed. Even worse as many of us do he doesn't let go, and his lovr turns to envy.
All of us (including me, several times) at one point or another have been in Lennier's place, but the important thing is not to fall into that trap again.
My advice if you really want this chick, is to start ignoring her slightly, maybe break off contact for a few days, and make sure anytime you spend with her is brief but really enjoyable. this will make her miss you more and it might make her realise that she cares about you in another way. Also try to express your more assertive side when you are around her, do bold things that challenge her perception of you, she has to see that you are a man in everyway. At one point when you think she is starting to see the other side of you let her know that you want to move the relationship to another level, but not in a way that sounds needy or desperate but more like "You and me are great together, I think we should find out how far we can take this". if she won't do it, or keeps seeing you as a friend then you can either break it off comepletely which could spark her need for you, or just keep her as an occasional friend and move on.
One important note, you have to find out if she loves this guy or not, because if she really loves him it would be wrong to try to interfere, and she probably won't go for you anyway.
Thats basicly my assesment from experience, and equal heart loss it may or may not help you, but whatever you do don't just keep things status quo because you may have to wait years for her to see you as a lover if it ever happens at all. Be yourself , and be strong if she can't see what you could be to her, its her loss man.
Seems to me she thinks of you as a friend, not a potential partner. As EX said, strong guys tend to get the girls, because (and perhaps I am being cynical) they sweep them off of their feet, make themselves and their intentions known.
But I'll shut up, having never been in a relationship before. :)
A lso I've found that chicks when they are young and immature admire certain qualities in man like loyalty, respect, emotional understanding, and sensitivity, but when it comes to romance they go for others like boldness, rashness, high confidence, athletic. Girls respond to strength above all else, they want to be lead and basicly swept off their feet. [/B][/QUOTE]
Hey you should be doing the advice columns! ;)
One thing though not all girls want to be led. Some like it the other way round and love a challenge, for some that is the attraction, not me though.
:)
Of course, all people are different. Thats the reason for the usual 'just be yourself' banter. Plus, it save you a whole lot of trouble and embarrassment.
EXone, you made the point there. Granted. And yes, what you described there is exactly what I intend to do as it is pretty much identical to what I've gathered so far myself in life.
However, the funny thing is that from what I gather, her bf is very much like me, both mentally and physically. (Although he has a few extra pounds in comparison to 'meself.) This is what makes it hard and at the same time interesting to me. She's fallen for a guy that seems to be my exact duplicate, and trust me on this one, she's not the type that goes for the looks. Definitely not. So I could be off by a mile but I think the reason that guy got the upper hand of me was to simply physically be there.
The important thing to remember here is that I've never actually met her. Yup, you read that correctly. This is the first time I've been in this sort of situation, I've _never_ fallen this bad for a gal just by being long time penpals and friends overall. This will change in a week, as I intend to go meet her as I check out a city where I'm applying to study this spring. But the thing is that I'm not going there to find true love or 'score' as some people definitely would, I'm going there just to meet a dear friend, chew the fat and have some good laughs and show her that despite what she thinks, there truly is at least one guy out there that genuinely loves her.
And about her loving her bf... well. I can't say anything to that before I actually meet her. If while I'm there I see that she's genuinely loves 'im and that I'm no more than a friend to her I'll leave it at that. The last thing I'd want is to see is her get hurt, one way or the other. And I hate myself for going after someone that is in a serious relationship with someone else, but from my point of view, if you don't, you'll only end up hurting yourself and the person you're neglecting because of that affair. Hell, even I wouldn't be here today if my parent's hadn't met each other while both being married. 25 years together next month and still going strong. And it seems that the most long-enduring relationships in this family are forged by the courage to either let go or strike in between. So I can put the blame on genetics. :D Nah, I can't. And I don't want to. Sometimes in life you're faced with a choice where you just [i]know[/i] in your heart what you [b]need[/b] to do. And come hell or high water, I'll do it.
So as far as I thank you for your advice guys, I intend to go there as nothing more than myself and I'm not going to play any sort of role there other than what comes naturally from being 'me'. I'm a damn charming bugger when I'm in the right group and I'm usually the one that breaks the ice when no-one else has the nerve to do so. So I'll be myself, if she's interested after that... well, what more could a guy ask for? But I've given up on the hope that miracles happen to me so I'll just go there with high hopes expecting the worst.
But the thing in this is that I'm going there to find myself peace of mind. Nothing more. I just need to know what the game is, if there is any game to speak of. I feel that there is a chance for us if I make her see it, and if she's not interested... well, what do I grieve for then? I wouldn't be happy with anyone that wouldn't be happy with me. So either way it goes, I'll come back with a lighter heart.
And I can assure you I'm no 'player'. Hate those guys myself to the bone.
It depends on what you do, jut because you get with many girls doesn't nessesarily make you a player. Its about wether you just have fun with chicks, and they understand its just that, or if you get with them by manipulating their feelings and then kicking them to the curb when you're done. Guys that do that can really mess up girls either turning them into sluts
or scaring them emotionaly and becoming distrustfull of all guys.
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Does anyone of you eat oranges and if so do you find seeds often from those?
My sister and others in family rarely finds seeds or only couple of them from whole orange.
But just wait when I'll start to eat one of those:
I'll find always seeds and at least five, more often nearly ten (or even more) seeds and it's not so uncommon for me to find tree seeds from one piece (or whatever is that english word) of orange!
So am I somekind "seedmagnet" or what? :confused:
How about if every time you fall in love with a gal that you [b]know[/b] you could live with happily for the rest of your life (and on from there if you believe in that sort of thing) and the only thing she wants you as is what you are to her: a 'hell of a good friend'?
Happens to me every time. [b]_EVERY_[/b] goddamn time... People seem to love my personality but no-one seems to love me.
So what does that make me? Gay?
[B]How about if every time you fall in love with a gal that you [b]know[/b] you could live with happily for the rest of your life (and on from there if you believe in that sort of thing) and the only thing she wants you as is what you are to her: a 'hell of a good friend'?[/B][/QUOTE]
Hey, I know exactly what that's like.
[B]Ohh... you have it tough.
How about if every time you fall in love with a gal that you [b]know[/b] you could live with happily for the rest of your life (and on from there if you believe in that sort of thing) and the only thing she wants you as is what you are to her: a 'hell of a good friend'?
Happens to me every time. [b]_EVERY_[/b] goddamn time... People seem to love my personality but no-one seems to love me.
[/B][/QUOTE]
Sounds sooooo familiar.
......tho i did meet a very nice lass the other day who was eyeing me up more that i was eyeing her up, and thats saying something!:D
[B]Heh, shes prefect for Refa:D
"mass murderers" "serial killers" "anime" "blood"
on anthor note I should put a better pic of my self on Hot or not [/B][/QUOTE]
There's a pic of you here?!? I ever clicked on all the links! hehehe
As for Refa I don't know him well enough only what you say. And what you say..... probably best not to know. ;)
[QUOTE][B]How about if every time you fall in love with a gal that you know you could live with happily for the rest of your life (and on from there if you believe in that sort of thing) and the only thing she wants you as is what you are to her: a 'hell of a good friend'?[/B][/QUOTE]
I've been there too! Its hard. I mean they say friendship last longer but.....when you really fall for someone well for me it was too hard to be just friends. So I sympathsize with you there. :) Even worse when you know that they do fancy you but don't want to. Soooo frustrating that was! To this day I will never understand why.
But I think its true though that you often meet someone when you least expect than when you're trying.
:)
[B]yeah i know the feeling.........just im usually on the other side. they are the ones id want as friends, while i seem to be the one they want to marry, usually within about a week of meeting me:confused: is it me?:rolleyes:
......tho i did meet a very nice lass the other day who was eyeing me up more that i was eyeing her up, and thats saying something!:D [/B][/QUOTE]
What? You're on the other side? I want to be that to!
[B]What? You're on the other side? I want to be that to! [/B][/QUOTE]
Hmm... Uh-oh.. I think I might've got caught up in that kinda thing too...
And both from Thailand actually. yikes.
anyway.. Okay. Basically, no real feelings for either of those. The one I'm "with" atm isn't all that trustworthy I reckon, but she's got nice body and that kinda shiiat, and the other one, well, she seems to want me to break up with that other girl. She's a bit older than me, and well.. in some ways more to my liking. But hell if it ain't difficult.
I wouldn't really want her for more than the occasional sex between friends. heh. Nah. Just kidding. sort of. I mean, she's not the one I'd like to spend too much time with I suppose. Dont think I could love her. Just friends be good enough for me.
Honestly. It bugs me when girls that I have no feelings for start to call me sweetness, or babe, and putting those heart smileys and so on to me.
For crying out loud! I'm not rich or handsome. Sure.. I've seen some sorta okay looking babes at work, that are married to some bum looking finnish types, but I sure as hell wouldn't be going that way. :)
Went to check my other hotornots, and what'd ya know? The first finnish girl that's clicked yes on me. heh. And first at that! :D
[url]http://meetme.hotornot.com/r/?emid=KYAUOEO[/url]
She's okay. But what's fun, guess what it read on my profile?
[quote]I'd rather be dead than keep on living alone.
Not for posers, teasers or pointless flirting. ;)
Living in scandinavia. Little country next to russia. No polar bears or eskimos. [/quote]
[Jealous]Ohh... I remember now, you're a paying customer. :p That explains it. ;) She doesn't have to be overly interested and make the first move with you, just 'click yes'. :D [/Jealous]
Ahh...crap, what am I babbling about, I don't care about her... I love [b][i]her[/i][/b]...
Oh yeah, and I understand that my situation is far from being unique but somewhere deep down I almost hope she'd stop SMS'ing, e-mailing and chatting with me on a regular daily basis as she's not interested. She's got a boyfriend she's serious about, for chrissakes... Nah, scratch that. I wouldn't want her out of touch with me, I'd hate that. There aren't that many true kindred spirits out there for my kind.
She's become the other person that I can call an actual true friend now and wouldn't want to live without her in my life in one form or another. (Yes, mates, acquaintances and people you know are one thing and true friends completely another.) And I know she feels the same way at least to some extent and that she's in the same situation as far as the friend thing goes. I'm not going to let go of her no matter how much it hurts as I know that she's there for life as I'm there for her but... damn, this is getting complicated. And it's just me. My problem. If I could just stop feeling so damn much every now and then... It would be so easy if you could just choose whom to feel for and to whom not to...
...but that would make it just that little bit too much easier, wouldn't it?
Sigh. Well, going to meet her next week. Hope I'll be able to get my head straight with that.
[B]Sigh. Well, going to meet her next week. Hope I'll be able to get my head straight with that. [/B][/QUOTE]
which head?:D :p
And Shadowdancer... thanks, but I'm not in the mood for jokes about the subject although you made me smile briefly. :) I'm referring to the head between me' shoulders, and believe it or not, It's the end of me' body that does all the thinking. Although the part of my body that thinks for me in this matter is cased inside my chest.
A lso I've found that chicks when they are young and immature admire certain qualities in man like loyalty, respect, emotional understanding, and sensitivity, but when it comes to romance they go for others like boldness, rashness, high confidence, athletic. Girls respond to strength above all else, they want to be lead and basicly swept off their feet.
Unfortunately guys who are compasionate and sensitive often fail to express strength in front of chicks even though they may have strong character traits. Thus chicks may love to have friends who are sensitive, but they will never respect them in the way thats nessesary for them to be sexualy or romaniticaly interested. Look at b5 for example Lennier has been there beside Dellen for years, doing everything she asks, loving and supporting her every decision. Then all of a sudden this brash passionate Earth guy comes along that kicks ass and doesn't back down from a challenge, and he is by his own admission not good with relationaships, yet Dellen falls for him and Lennier gets screwed. Even worse as many of us do he doesn't let go, and his lovr turns to envy.
All of us (including me, several times) at one point or another have been in Lennier's place, but the important thing is not to fall into that trap again.
My advice if you really want this chick, is to start ignoring her slightly, maybe break off contact for a few days, and make sure anytime you spend with her is brief but really enjoyable. this will make her miss you more and it might make her realise that she cares about you in another way. Also try to express your more assertive side when you are around her, do bold things that challenge her perception of you, she has to see that you are a man in everyway. At one point when you think she is starting to see the other side of you let her know that you want to move the relationship to another level, but not in a way that sounds needy or desperate but more like "You and me are great together, I think we should find out how far we can take this". if she won't do it, or keeps seeing you as a friend then you can either break it off comepletely which could spark her need for you, or just keep her as an occasional friend and move on.
One important note, you have to find out if she loves this guy or not, because if she really loves him it would be wrong to try to interfere, and she probably won't go for you anyway.
Thats basicly my assesment from experience, and equal heart loss it may or may not help you, but whatever you do don't just keep things status quo because you may have to wait years for her to see you as a lover if it ever happens at all. Be yourself , and be strong if she can't see what you could be to her, its her loss man.
But I'll shut up, having never been in a relationship before. :)
"Playboys" should be shot and pissed on, and put into the ground up side down.
[B]
A lso I've found that chicks when they are young and immature admire certain qualities in man like loyalty, respect, emotional understanding, and sensitivity, but when it comes to romance they go for others like boldness, rashness, high confidence, athletic. Girls respond to strength above all else, they want to be lead and basicly swept off their feet. [/B][/QUOTE]
Hey you should be doing the advice columns! ;)
One thing though not all girls want to be led. Some like it the other way round and love a challenge, for some that is the attraction, not me though.
:)
However, the funny thing is that from what I gather, her bf is very much like me, both mentally and physically. (Although he has a few extra pounds in comparison to 'meself.) This is what makes it hard and at the same time interesting to me. She's fallen for a guy that seems to be my exact duplicate, and trust me on this one, she's not the type that goes for the looks. Definitely not. So I could be off by a mile but I think the reason that guy got the upper hand of me was to simply physically be there.
The important thing to remember here is that I've never actually met her. Yup, you read that correctly. This is the first time I've been in this sort of situation, I've _never_ fallen this bad for a gal just by being long time penpals and friends overall. This will change in a week, as I intend to go meet her as I check out a city where I'm applying to study this spring. But the thing is that I'm not going there to find true love or 'score' as some people definitely would, I'm going there just to meet a dear friend, chew the fat and have some good laughs and show her that despite what she thinks, there truly is at least one guy out there that genuinely loves her.
And about her loving her bf... well. I can't say anything to that before I actually meet her. If while I'm there I see that she's genuinely loves 'im and that I'm no more than a friend to her I'll leave it at that. The last thing I'd want is to see is her get hurt, one way or the other. And I hate myself for going after someone that is in a serious relationship with someone else, but from my point of view, if you don't, you'll only end up hurting yourself and the person you're neglecting because of that affair. Hell, even I wouldn't be here today if my parent's hadn't met each other while both being married. 25 years together next month and still going strong. And it seems that the most long-enduring relationships in this family are forged by the courage to either let go or strike in between. So I can put the blame on genetics. :D Nah, I can't. And I don't want to. Sometimes in life you're faced with a choice where you just [i]know[/i] in your heart what you [b]need[/b] to do. And come hell or high water, I'll do it.
So as far as I thank you for your advice guys, I intend to go there as nothing more than myself and I'm not going to play any sort of role there other than what comes naturally from being 'me'. I'm a damn charming bugger when I'm in the right group and I'm usually the one that breaks the ice when no-one else has the nerve to do so. So I'll be myself, if she's interested after that... well, what more could a guy ask for? But I've given up on the hope that miracles happen to me so I'll just go there with high hopes expecting the worst.
But the thing in this is that I'm going there to find myself peace of mind. Nothing more. I just need to know what the game is, if there is any game to speak of. I feel that there is a chance for us if I make her see it, and if she's not interested... well, what do I grieve for then? I wouldn't be happy with anyone that wouldn't be happy with me. So either way it goes, I'll come back with a lighter heart.
And I can assure you I'm no 'player'. Hate those guys myself to the bone.
Even tho I'm not good looking or anything. Mostly people say I'm cute and sweet. But still. :)
or scaring them emotionaly and becoming distrustfull of all guys.
Which one are you?