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Neonation
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The Finger Painter & Master Ranter
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Here's a hypothetical scenario for you.
Neonation
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From the depths of international waters, rises a new island, perhaps a new mid tectonic plate 'zit'. This new landmass is, by law 'terra nullius' (land belonging to no-one).
Fortune has it that at that very moment a ship is in the area, and on that ship is your good self. You also have the presence of mind to hastily draw up a flag and steal a broomstick... jump in and swim to this new patch of dirt. You plant the flag and decree that this island is hereby claimed by yourself as your soverign land. In due course you're recognised as the owner of this new dirt by the international court and the UN. Your little island nation has enough landmass/resources/GNP to support 20,000 or so people.
Now... the real questions, the ones that will make all the difference in the end.
1)Are you going to have a chaotic and cheerful little democracy ? or rule as Despot, malign or benign ?
2)What are you going to do in regards to Religion on this new country ?
3)Any specific laws you want in place ?
4)Immigration ? Your laws in this regard are ?
This is a fresh slate for you to write your own history. Outline your ideas fellas, I wanna see what you come up with.
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My version of Neonation
1) I rule as benign despot, with an executive council of six members. My will is absolute unless five members of the council vote against me. All votes are silent ballots.
Democracy is fine, if it works, but with a nation so small, flexibility is the key, the government needs to be able to turn on a dime to survive.
2) "No stone shall be laid upon stone in worhsip of any god." Religion is not banned, but it is not encouraged. The populous' relationship with thier god should be a personal one. Like minded persons have freedom of association, and may gather and worship as they see fit but no-one shall build a temple/synagogue/church, there will be no legal, no fiscal, no physical representation of 'the church' in Neonation.
Solicitation and Evangelism will not be tolerated, nor will the aggregation or collection of monies for religious purposes. Persistent breaches of the above are grounds for deportation.
3) Every person learns how to swim/survive/live in and around our nation in a practical sense. Defense of the nation is also performed by national service and a genuine and proper militia. Every person in Neonation will know how to use a firearm and how to make a firearm inert. A series of centralised armouries are maintained on the island. Guns are stored in these armouries exclusively. No-one may keep a firearm in thier homes.Virtually any type of gun is available for purchase, but it will always be stored at the armoury. Illegal use/importation of a firearm will result in deportation.
4) Immigrants are screened. We take on the UN described mix of normal/refugee immigrants. 'Boat people' will be provisoned, have thier vessels made seaworthy, and they are turned away... application for refugee status is performed BEFORE entry to Neonation. If a refugee cannot get to safe point from which to send and recieve mail/email/communication.... tough titties... blame the many others who have abused the refugee status to gain entry to a nation without genuine cause.
Neonation
~~~~~~~
From the depths of international waters, rises a new island, perhaps a new mid tectonic plate 'zit'. This new landmass is, by law 'terra nullius' (land belonging to no-one).
Fortune has it that at that very moment a ship is in the area, and on that ship is your good self. You also have the presence of mind to hastily draw up a flag and steal a broomstick... jump in and swim to this new patch of dirt. You plant the flag and decree that this island is hereby claimed by yourself as your soverign land. In due course you're recognised as the owner of this new dirt by the international court and the UN. Your little island nation has enough landmass/resources/GNP to support 20,000 or so people.
Now... the real questions, the ones that will make all the difference in the end.
1)Are you going to have a chaotic and cheerful little democracy ? or rule as Despot, malign or benign ?
2)What are you going to do in regards to Religion on this new country ?
3)Any specific laws you want in place ?
4)Immigration ? Your laws in this regard are ?
This is a fresh slate for you to write your own history. Outline your ideas fellas, I wanna see what you come up with.
~~~~
My version of Neonation
1) I rule as benign despot, with an executive council of six members. My will is absolute unless five members of the council vote against me. All votes are silent ballots.
Democracy is fine, if it works, but with a nation so small, flexibility is the key, the government needs to be able to turn on a dime to survive.
2) "No stone shall be laid upon stone in worhsip of any god." Religion is not banned, but it is not encouraged. The populous' relationship with thier god should be a personal one. Like minded persons have freedom of association, and may gather and worship as they see fit but no-one shall build a temple/synagogue/church, there will be no legal, no fiscal, no physical representation of 'the church' in Neonation.
Solicitation and Evangelism will not be tolerated, nor will the aggregation or collection of monies for religious purposes. Persistent breaches of the above are grounds for deportation.
3) Every person learns how to swim/survive/live in and around our nation in a practical sense. Defense of the nation is also performed by national service and a genuine and proper militia. Every person in Neonation will know how to use a firearm and how to make a firearm inert. A series of centralised armouries are maintained on the island. Guns are stored in these armouries exclusively. No-one may keep a firearm in thier homes.Virtually any type of gun is available for purchase, but it will always be stored at the armoury. Illegal use/importation of a firearm will result in deportation.
4) Immigrants are screened. We take on the UN described mix of normal/refugee immigrants. 'Boat people' will be provisoned, have thier vessels made seaworthy, and they are turned away... application for refugee status is performed BEFORE entry to Neonation. If a refugee cannot get to safe point from which to send and recieve mail/email/communication.... tough titties... blame the many others who have abused the refugee status to gain entry to a nation without genuine cause.
Comments
I'd definately setup a democracy of sorts. There would be one ruler (me) who is allowed to run until elected out. Under me would be a total of 20 advisers, one for every thousand people on the island. Votes would be held though an electoral vote setup, as it is in the US, and elections held every two years for the 20 people under me, and every 6 years for my position. There would be laws set in place for campaigns, I often feel that over a year of a presedents time is spent campaigning, far to much.
2)What are you going to do in regards to Religion on this new country ?
Up to the people that live there, provided their religion does not interfere with others in a horrible way. (Suicide bombings, going out into the steets yelling "the end is coming" at the top of your lungs, etc. Peacful acts are allowed.
3)Any specific laws you want in place ?
well, the ten commandments are pretty much the bases for every nations set of laws, so something simuler would come into play. No killing, beating, raping, etc. those that do serve jail time, etc.
4)Immigration ? Your laws in this regard are ?
Illigal immigrants are sent off the island, we have limited resources, not enough for everyone that wants to live here. Namely you would have to go though an immigration office, have a background check, and ID made for yourself once on the island.
I would have an oligarchy of 3 members, 1 of which would be elected and the other two appoited by the remaining 2 members anytime one retires. The 2 non-elected members serve for 10 years and the elected member serves for 5 years (in such a way that the non-elected members never come up for renewal on an election year and are appointed alternately). This way the government has some form of stability from leadership to leadership.
2)What are you going to do in regards to Religion on this new country ?
ALL HAIL THE AARDVARKS!
3)Any specific laws you want in place ?
Nope
4)Immigration ? Your laws in this regard are ?
Forced immigration ;) - no really - we need people and factories - so we have to get them somehow :)
1)Are you going to have a chaotic and cheerful little democracy ? or rule as Despot, malign or benign?
It will be a Democracy, Run By a Parailent
Power, Housing, Food, HealthCare, Edcuation. and and public Unitlys will be Corntroled and Run Bythe goverement
2)What are you going to do in regards to Religion on this new country.
As long as they keep to to them selves, and as long as they don t try to force other to join their religion(SO no Missionary.) And As long as the Acknowledge others Religions
Religion will not interfear in the dission making of the government, and Technogical Avdance of the country
BTW: there are very few ppl who have a religion in this country.
3)Any specific laws you want in place ?
Laws will be based on
Punishments will be mostly Fines Based on the Persons Income, . There is no Death Pentalty,
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Captain,Simmonds [/i]
[B](SO no Missionary.)[/B][/QUOTE]
[b]That's[/b] going to be hard to enforce :D
Because of the size I would have a system similar to the US government, but instead of a presidancy I would have some form of a grey councle, maybe 3 peeps instead of 9.
2)What are you going to do in regards to Religion on this new country ?
No referance to religion would be made in government. People can belive whatever they want. However every year the government will fund the WaterCooler festivle.
3)Any specific laws you want in place ?
I must get a foot massage once a week.
4)Immigration ? Your laws in this regard are ?
There can only be as many people in perminant residance as the island can support.
(will fix spelling later)
Law: No internet access or posting rights for anyone who uses the handle SHADOW BOXER.
:p ;)
:D
did I do something to offend you personally ?
I try to offend everyone equally... :D
;) :D
As I said laws will be based on logic.
So in order to keep the population under control, and to prevent over population, One law would be, 1 Childed Per Couple.
4)Immigration ? Your laws in this regard are ?
I would only let 5,000 people in:D
[B]you have a flea up your Butt Jack ? :)
did I do something to offend you personally ?
I try to offend everyone equally... :D [/B][/QUOTE]
Not offended at all... Just wanted to make you feel wanted... ;)
Chat traffic has been low lately, so I thought I'd yank your chain a little...
heh heh
Besides, I've been feeling a bit sarcastic lately for various reasons, and since you're such a good sport and all!
:p
[B]3)Any specific laws you want in place ?
As I said laws will be based on logic.
So in order to keep the population under control, and to prevent over population, One law would be, 1 Childed Per Couple.
4)Immigration ? Your laws in this regard are ?
I would only let 5,000 people in:D [/B][/QUOTE]
Only 1 child per couple and a set number of immigrants = poor population control.
First it would be a democracy, elected by the people (basically a copy of the US Constitution)
Religious choice would, of course, belong to the people. However, intolerance would not be tolerated (hehe).
Laws: True freedom to bear arms (some controls would obviously be in place). Death Penalty would be in place, mandatory civil service or military service, free press, ect.
Immigration: No illegal immigration would be tolerated (strong navy, obviously). Other than that, if you want in and are not criminals, Ill let you (up to a certain point, say 10,000 people, at which time I would basically slow things down and let natural reproduction take hold)
[B]Only 1 child per couple and a set number of immigrants = poor population control. [/B][/QUOTE]
SMACK
The whole popution would be 5,000, To start off with.
AND Draft Dougers are welcome.
More Laws: No Guns that can cuase deadly harm to others, Hunting Weapons are allowed, But these guns will be kept under lock and key at the police station, till the owner wants to go hunting. I think Britian has simular gun laws. No Force Military service for the men and women. And this country is a neutral country:D I love Neutral Countrys, They seem to be the ones that stick around for a long time.
What the hell are you going to hunt on your little clod of land? Snails? Perhaps some crabs. Or maybe, if you're lucky, a lobster will crawl ashore in some freak incident in which it'll be promptly observed and blown to pieces.
they could kill you just by growing in your general direction..:D
and have you guys ever heard about the Straits of Malacca....
the new breed of pirates out there STEAL ENTIRE FREAKIN SHIPS... the crew are never seen again...fishfood
they do basically a carjacking on a grand scale... repaint, sell it and its cargo
thats what the unlimited guns are for... pirates who carry assault rifles as standard.. and oft time mount 50 cal BMG on thier little fast assault type boats...