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OMG!! Read the officer joournal NOW!

croxiscroxis I am the walrus
I can't even spell Journal. Sheesh.
(Yes, I am putting a link in this time!) [url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/[/url]

Read the newist entry. OOh MY GOD! NOw I understand! Now I understand!



[This message has been edited by croxis (edited 09-01-2001).]
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  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    GAH!
    GNOMES!
    THEY'RE STEALING MY UNDERWEAR!
    STOP TI!
    ACH!!! THEY'RE DRIVING ME CRAZY!
  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    And whats so wrong with being crazy?
  • Nah. I'll just wait until the journal tops up to a nice sum of pages, print them all out and enjoy a nice little "book"...

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    Life is full of surprises. The ones reserved for me usually come wearing brass knuckles.
  • RandyRandy Master Storyteller
    Assuming that the server stays available -

    And doesn't crash -

    And I hear the author looks at the stats once a week to see if there are enough people visiting the site (unique, not repeat), and staying more than a minute, to make it worth doing – since he’s spending a couple of days per week on it for free as a favor to ITF supporters.

    Who knows if we’ll get the entire story before the site disappears?
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    That's a hint, guys. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]

    Ohh sounds!

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    [b]Required reading: [url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/[/url][/b]
    Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
    The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Wow... so that's how the historical missions were going to fit in. I'm quite... astounded. That is some incredibly impressive game design!

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    [b]Required reading: [url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/[/url][/b]
    Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
    The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • samuelksamuelk The Unstoppable Mr. 'K'
    I knew the historical missions had something to do with Sector 14...it's the only time-travel anomaly in B5, so that was a given. And I also guessed that the historical missions would affect future/present events.

    But the telepath/S14 tie-in was great...very clever.

    Was Sinclair's voice done by Michael O'Hare, or was it another voice augmented with audio from the series?
  • David of MacDavid of Mac Elite Ranger Ca
    I want to find out more about this teep thing. Either he did know, and had to keep moving around like Ivanova, or he didn't know or lacked the marker gene, so he just had to be careful not to slip up.
  • RubberEagleRubberEagle What's a rubber eagle used for, anyway?
    I'd say he's something like a T 0.5 or similar... maybe the psicorps test showed that there was something in his genes, but not enough to make him in any way interesting for them...
  • David of MacDavid of Mac Elite Ranger Ca
    Thats another thing. If the security manual is right, anyone p3 or below are just logged for genitic reasons. If thats the case, why was Ivonova so scared of being found? All that would happen is her name would be jotted down for some nefareus purpose.
  • RickRick Sector 14 Studios
    Pretty cool, huh? [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]



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    [i]"...In the end it would hold because what is built endures. And what is loved endures.
    And Babylon 5...Babylon 5 endures."[/i] -- Delenn in the Babylon 5 episode [i]Rising Star[/i]
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Well the Psicorps don't test everybody, it's voluntary. So all he would need to do is avoid being tested.

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    [b]Required reading: [url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/[/url][/b]
    Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
    The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • RubberEagleRubberEagle What's a rubber eagle used for, anyway?
    now, what would interest me is, what was there first... the thought of making something with the Anomaly, or the though of including something like historical Battles...
  • Damn,that makes me want to play even more.
  • RandyRandy Master Storyteller
    Okay. Here’s a version of the story.

    We knew that there was interest in historical battles, of course, so that was an issue early on. Problem with B5 historical battles is that they are on rails if you keep them canon – everyone knows how they’re going to turn out. Even if you don't worry about this, we still had the problem that JMS's major historical battles are set up so that the playing field is very uneven. This works for drama – because we love to root for the underdog. But it’s not so good for a space combat simulator. If it wasn’t for plot gymnastics, the EA would most likely have been wiped out immediately, or would have wiped itself out. Mostly he has his main characters talk their way out of battles, bluff their way through before there's total destruction, manages to have some cosmic reason stop a battle before it's final conclusion, or everyone does get wiped out (victims of the Dilgar, for instance). Not exactly the stuff of re-playable space combat simulators - because the player doesn't end up with enough influence, or have much hope of success. At first it seemed like the only way to have historical battles was to artificially level the playing field and not worry about whether or not it was canon, or have historical modules that the player could participate in – usually ending up quickly dead. And then have a main story game where the player could actually have a hope of “winning”, given enough skill.

    At first we put aside the issue of historical battles, figuring that they’d end up being modules, and started to look for a period of time in The Great Maker’s history where the years were only sketched in. We found a perfect place between the formation of the Alliance and the Drakh attack on Earth. We knew from talks with him what was supposed to be going on in the background during those years, so we worked out single player story game stuff so that it would fill out this little space in his overall narrative, and become canon material. This allowed us to formulate something where the player could have a major influence without interfering with canon. This was to be our single player game – but this didn’t solve the issue of interest in historical battles. What to do?

    Since we couldn’t at first think of anything else, we went to work figuring that the historical battles would be simulator modules that set the playing field according to canon, and that the player would be a wild card within that mix. We knew that the odds would be way against the player if we kept it canon, but since they were only a modules and not the main games offered (single player story game – multi-player simulator without story) we figured that this would be okay. Most likely players would get creamed pretty quickly. But it would be fun while it lasted. And then everything changed.

    Amidst a bit of a misunderstanding with JMS, while we were trying to juggle his concerns and ideas with our concerns for good (fun – well balanced) gameplay, we hit upon the idea of integrating Sector 14 as a way of allowing interaction in historical battles without having to leave the game. Then the problem became – how do we account for the common time travel phenomena dealt with in science speculation. We started to think about “What ifs”. For instance, what if the player had advanced weapons and defenses due to the new sharing of technology as part of the Alliance accords? And what if this player went back in time with this new technology? This would lead to a more level playing field in historical battles. This led us to think about parallel universes. That idea turned out to be okay with JMS. There was furious re-writing and the loss of about two months. We had to figure out how to do parallel universes without expanding the need for more assets, and without having to write for the rest of our lives to finish the game. But we did figure out a way, and we ended up with a better game, IMHO.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    And Sierra saw such brilliance, and Sierra thought, "How can we let this happen? People will expect us to make good games!". And Sierra stifled the creativity.

    I'm going to ****ing kill someone for this.

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    Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
    The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • I won't bother with the long string of astirisks.

    To me, it is not the B5 license that I want in this game. That's great and all, but I am a fan first and foremost of space combat simulation games, and I feel that we have once again been deprived of a game that really defines the genre. We [i]need[/i] something that can really be called the best of the lot without a certain measure of embarassment. ITF would have been it. This wonderful journal starts to paint a picture of how and why.

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    Q'Daan, Lord of the Porcupines
    Council Chairman of the Grand Coalition of Porcupines
    Oracle of the Mystical Trout of Malfador
    We'll murder them all, in laughter and merryment. Except for the few we take home to experiment.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    I find I must agree. It wasn't just B5, it was The Ultimate Space Combat Game.

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    Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
    The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • Falcon1Falcon1 Elite Ranger
    Just read it... wow what an incredible read! It was fantastic. Things are really starting to happen now!

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    'I have no surviving enemies! None what so ever!' Galen

    Visit my B5 site at: [url="http://www.nialb5.com"]B5 site[/url].
  • RubberEagleRubberEagle What's a rubber eagle used for, anyway?
    give me a whitestar to go to sector 14, travel back to 1999 and "convince" the Sierra bosses to not cancel that game... damn.. i wouldn't even need a Whitestar.. just a tin-can with a jumpdrive...
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Or a handy asteroid.

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    Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
    The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • Ranger BrianRanger Brian The Anti-Scrooge
    [quote]Originally posted by Freeze:
    [b]Biggles:[/b] You bring the shells, I'll bring the shotgun[/B][/quote]

    Shotguns too quick for the likes of them.

    Oh man the more I read the journal, the more I miss it.

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    and then I took my shades off...
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    Only the insane have strength enough to prosper,
    Only those that prosper truly judge what is sane.
  • ARGH!!

    Love the story, I want to tell the author THANKYOU!!! (If you read this)

    Whats REALLY bad is that I have a compleat mission campagn setup...that uses sector 14 in the SAME WAY!!! (Much different plot though)

    LOL! as they say...Great minds think alike...

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  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    You mean like me and... well noone really, because noone's mind is as great as mine. Oh well.

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    [b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
    Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
    The Balance provides. The Balance protects.

    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • ZosoliasZosolias Earthforce Officer
    Wonderful! Thank you so much for sharing this with us.

    But, I have to go now...

    Zosolias quietly walks away and pounds his head into the wall moaning for what might have been.....
  • *finds a free place at the wall right beside Zosolias and starts banging his head against it*

    Do you think we should use the same cadence?

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    No matter the pain, no matter the darkness, no matter the loss, no matter the fear. .. We are one.
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    Webmaster [url="http://www.Sprungtor.de"]www.Sprungtor.de[/url]
  • samuelksamuelk The Unstoppable Mr. 'K'
    [quote]You mean like me and... well noone really, because noone's mind is as great as mine. Oh well.[/quote]

    Except maybe the minds of people who know that "no one" is two words. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]
  • RickRick Sector 14 Studios
    [quote]Originally posted by Biggles:
    [b]I find I must agree. It wasn't just B5, it was The Ultimate Space Combat Game.

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    "The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. Noone knows the shape of that future, or where it will take us."

    - [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/vsml.gif[/img]
  • MelkorMelkor Elite Ranger
    *crys like a baby* I...*sob*...want ITF.
  • [quote]Originally posted by Biggles:
    [b]And Sierra saw such brilliance, and Sierra thought, "How can we let this happen? People will expect us to make good games!". And Sierra stifled the creativity.

    I'm going to ****ing kill someone for this.

    [/b][/quote]

    Ok everyone meet at the Statue of Liberty in 9 days. I'll Get a boat and some weapons. Next stop France!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We won't return untill those bastard execs heads are on our fighting pikes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    We will Prevail

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    "Ambassador we all know that the first casulty of war is the truth."
    -John Sheridan
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