Every time I see George Bush I get an overwhelming urge to strangle the bastard (just for the record I get the same urge when I see Blah, only slightly less. This it might just be a knee jerk reaction to politicians full stop. Whoever let politicians run our country made a SERIOUS mistake). Also has anyone seen the pictures comparing him to an ape? They're frighteningly close, I'm telling ya!
Shall I tell you what really worries me now? A little group called "The Project For The New American Century" that has links with most of your upper government. Apparently since Bush has come to power, they have persued their own projects, such as the development of small nuclear warheads and a 25% increase in military spending. Also, a lot of the people in this group are chairmen etc. of big companies such as Bechtel... And who has recently gotten contracts to reconstruct Iraq? One guess only.
And just for the hell of it, here is another piece of information I think you guys might find interesting.
In 1958, when the then government of Iraq started supporting the USSR, the CIA declared it was "One of the most dangerous countries in the world" and they decided it was time for a regime change. The CIA then sent a hitman to take out the Prime Minister of the time. Unfortunatly (for them) he killed the wrong person and ended up shooting himself in the leg, and then had to spend the next few years being bundled around CIA safe houses. The identity of the would be assassin? Saddam Hussein.
Anyways, I would advise people to watch a certain program called Bremner, Bird and Fortune if the chance ever arises- not only is the wit some of the sharpest I have EVER seen, it is hilarious and also completely accurate (lets face it- they couldn't get away with saying the stuff that they do if it isn't). It might not appeal to Americans or any other foreigners so much since a lot of it is British politics, but it is still brilliant.
Just for the record, I think there may be A god (I'm caught up in my theory of Human Uncertainty), but I think that most of the Religions around are based on visitation by advanced life forms. Read an interesting bit in a book about how the "Ancient of days" in the Old testament is in fact a machine that can produce food through micro organisms. Anyways, I have talked too much in this post already, but I will go with Biggles when I say I think ppl should be allowed to believe in what they want to as long as they don't force their opinions onto others.
[QUOTE]Wanna bet? Religion has been here for six thousand years, and fulfills a vital spiritual need in many a person. I doubt that it's going anywhere.[/QUOTE]
According to the last Census in canada all of the major religions are on the decline, and have been for the lasy decade. And there is a Growing Number of people with out a religion.
And like I have said before, Religion would not be so bad it, people would let people beleve in what ever them hell they wanted to. And the world would be a better place.
Personaly I dont realy care what religion people are apart of
BTW: The soul pupose of religion was to bring people in a commuity togeter. But now its changed.
[QUOTE] Joe Stalin killed 30,000,000 of his own people to satisfy his own godless religion of Marxism.[/QUOTE]
I did not know Marxism is a Religion, I thought is was a Economical, And way those where the acts of one person.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Captain,Simmonds [/i]
[B]According to the last Census in canada all of the major religions are on the decline, and have been for the lasy decade. And there is a Growing Number of people with out a religion.[/quote][/b]Now, in the U.S., the Census is taken once every decade. I just checked, and it is the same way in Canada, so "a constant decline in religion over the past decade" is the same as saying "a decline since we last looked", except it's more misleading. There's nothing to say that it isn't a statistical anomaly, brought on suddenly and eventually fading away, with nothing "constant" about it. On the other hand, it could be a prelude to mass conversions to atheism and all remaining people claiming to be of any given faith being taken out and shot. Who knows?[quote][b]And like I have said before, Religion would not be so bad it, people would let people believe in what ever them hell they wanted to. And the world would be a better place. [/b][/quote]Excuse me? So your saying religion, a system of guidelines on what to believe (Don't sleep with your friend's wife, do help the less fortunate) would be fine if it allowed people to do believe whatever they wish (Screw the less fortunate! Speaking of which, I better go see my friend's wife...), defeating the entire purpose.
Unless, your speaking of the metaphysical aspects, which would remove the spiritual aspects entirely, making religion just another set of common law, and redundant in anyplace that already had a system of law (read: everywhere).
It may come as a shock, but religion has a system for people whose beliefs differ from the status quo, which is identical to that of governments, clubs, and poker tables. The system gives people two choices who don't like the way things are: Work towards change, or leave. Leaving is often most practical for those lacking in superhuman will and charisma. And the best part is, there's no shortage of alternate religions to choose from! Want a loving wife or six? The Mormons are over there, thank you. Believe Elvis should be a part of the Communion of Saints? Check out that group over there, you'll recognize them by the sideburns. Spent a past life as a yak, you say? I believe you'll want to head over to the Eastern religions, they may have something for you.
Get the picture? There's no point in letting people believe whatever they want in a given religion because (a) it defeats the purpose and (b) there's no shortage of alternate religions that may align more closely with your views.[quote][b]Personally I dont realy care what religion people are apart of[/quote][/b]Yes, because you think they are all idiot institutions of evil and hold them all in disdain, you've made that [i]abundantly[/i] clear.[quote][b]BTW: The soul pupose of religion was to bring people in a commuity togeter.[/quote][/b]Yes, I can see it now.
Caveman 1: Yes, Glag, what shall we do now to bring our tribe closer together?
Caveman 2: I have it, Stralg! We shall go and tell stories about an invisible, all-powerful man who created us, saved us from adversity, and gave us instructions on how to live clean, healthy lives and taught us to be kind to one another!
Caveman 1: No, that's to similar to what Mogh's tribe down the river is doing.
Caveman 2: Well, let's make our invisible man twelve invisible men and women instead! And we shall have them mate with everything around them and killing people in random acts of rage! That will surely bring our peoples together in peace!
Did I say that made sense to me, because I lied.[quote][b]But now its changed.[/quote][/b]Well, don't keep us in suspense man! Elaborate![quote][b]I did not know Marxism is a Religion, I thought is was a Economical, And way those where the acts of one person.[/quote][/b]Listen, when someone cares enough about making something work that he's willing to slaughter so many people for it, it's like a religion to him, even if he'll deny it.[quote][b]Isnt Democracy Godless too. [/B][/QUOTE] Not really. After all, only an act of God could allow the all the peoples of the United States (or any other country) to agree on anything. ;) Besides, doesn't the President swear on a Bible, and tend to invoke the name of God from time to time?
This is all nether here nor there, as democracy is a political system, not an economic one (which, as you so astutely pointed out, Communism is), and, more to the point, I don't believe there are any nations governed by democracies in the world, just democratic republics, in which the people elect representatives to represent their will in elections among themselves rather than inviting chaos with a full vote by everyone in the country on every little thing.
The lack of a Religion is a religion in and of itself, because you need to believe that there is no God as part of your belief, so it becomes a religion...
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by David of Mac [/i]
[B][/b] it could be a prelude to mass conversions to atheism and all remaining people claiming to be of any given faith being taken out and shot.
[/B][/QUOTE]
According to the Census only a few thousand people are atheist and humanist. And People Taken out and being shot, just becuase they have Faith, Thats just plain Stupid in many ways. ANd I dont realy think thats going to happen. I cant ever kill an ant without feeling bad about it.
[QUOTE]Yes, I can see it now.
Caveman 1: Yes, Glag, what shall we do now to bring our tribe closer together?
Caveman 2: I have it, Stralg! We shall go and tell stories about an invisible, all-powerful man who created us, saved us from adversity, and gave us instructions on how to live clean, healthy lives and taught us to be kind to one another!
Caveman 1: No, that's to similar to what Mogh's tribe down the river is doing.
Caveman 2: Well, let's make our invisible man twelve invisible men and women instead! And we shall have them mate with everything around them and killing people in random acts of rage! That will surely bring our peoples together in peace!
Did I say that made sense to me, because I lied.
[/QUOTE]
Atleast Men and Women where Equal in that religion:D.
On Another note, People During the last Ice age, where not Very Barbaric they where just the same as us. They where people Trying to Survive in a time when there was very little food and Resourses and its was Frezing cold. During this time a tirbe mite have 10-20 people in it. Also during this time small Villages Start to pop up of around 100 people or so in it.
Also people back then shaved aswell, Becuase Massive Facal hair could Frezz in the cold.
And I will have to say this, People have a right to beleve in what ever they want to. And its better that people accept and respect other people Religions. And lets hope religion does not go down the same road as it did in the past.
and my favorit Quote of mine: [i] "God Exist in the minds of the people who beleve in it"-me[/i]
BTW: I never said Religion is Evil
And for the last god damn time, Its hwhen people who do stupid things (assholes like Bin Laden, Stalin, Hiter, theres a long list) Start Killing a mass amount of people in the name of what ever religion, Polical/economical system it is wrong, and give it a very bad name.
I think That this Religion Debate is going no where,
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Captain,Simmonds [/i]
[B]I Do not Mean to start a flame war here. But is it does lead to one, I will Delete the post.[/B][/QUOTE]
Sorry, but if you didn't mean to start a flame war, the questions you posed wouldn't be so loaded and, I expect, offensive to many. The questions all seem to rely on some rather baseless assumptions, so I don't believe it would serve any good whatsoever to answer them. IMO, they're just as bad as the "our economy is looking up" propaganda I hear from DC.
These are Opionions thats I hear alot about americans, I just wanted to know if americans where realy like that...... and they are not from what i have read.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Captain,Simmonds [/i]
[B]These are Opionions thats I hear alot about americans, I just wanted to know if americans where realy like that...... and they are not from what i have read. [/B][/QUOTE]
Those opinions you've heard are sweeping generalizations based on the same sort of ignorance that breeds racism and other hate, along with what probably creates extreme Islamists. Baseless hate. I cringe whenever I hear someone make a comment like that. The equating of the Polish with a lack of intelligence is another example, as is saying all Italians are in organized crime, etc. And yet, when an Italian politician made a comment about a German politician, describing him as the type who would make a good Nazi soldier, the German administration got all PO'd. Hypocrisy - it's yet another part of politics, world-wide.
[quote][SIZE=4][B]You've still failed to answer the question:
"What has America done to make you feel this way?"
Be specific, don't give vague "feelings."[/b][/quote][/SIZE]
Biggles<font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Captain,Simmonds [/i]
[B]According to the Census only a few thousand people are atheist and humanist. And People Taken out and being shot, just becuase they have Faith, Thats just plain Stupid in many ways. ANd I dont realy think thats going to happen. I cant ever kill an ant without feeling bad about it.[/B][/QUOTE]
You thinking it's stupid and not going to happen didn't seem to stop the Taleban.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Captain,Simmonds [/i]
[B]BTW: I never said Religion is Evil
And for the last god damn time, Its hwhen people who do stupid things (assholes like Bin Laden, Stalin, Hiter, theres a long list) Start Killing a mass amount of people in the name of what ever religion, Polical/economical system it is wrong, and give it a very bad name.[/B][/QUOTE]
I'm confused. You said this very thing was why "Religion its self is one of the greatist fuck ups in Human History", but now it seems you think their just horrid aberrations, and not the rules.
Jeeze. It makes it hard to argue when you change your opinions like that. Now I don’t know what you think! How am I supposed to argue?!
As to you never saying Religion is Evil, well, I don't think you appreciate how easy it is to go from "Religion its self is one of the greatist fuck ups in Human History" to "Religious people are the greatist fuck ups in the Human race" to "Religious people should be killed to prevent future up-fucking". That's why hearing such vehement opinions can worry me.
It doesn’t matter anyway. As long as you aren’t running down college students in tanks and chanting the benefits of the Little Red Book in lynch mobs, I can’t see any real gain in trying to change your opinion.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by David of Mac [/i]
[B]
Jeeze. It makes it hard to argue when you change your opinions like that. Now I don’t know what you think! How am I supposed to argue?!
[/B][/QUOTE]
I have not change my opinion, I keep saying, That religion is a mess up. And i gave a reson to why religion is a mess up.
Its is a mess up becuase people sometimes take it a little to far, and sadly mass amounts of people end up dead. And I dont think that the person(s) who made the religion ment for that to happen. I never said that Religion is bad or evil just becuase its a religion. I ment that its bad when people take to to far, and people end up dead becuase of it.
Another opinion I said was, if people would let people believe in what they wanted to, and not force other people to their Religion(Forceing people into a religion from my POV, is wrong) the world would be a better place.
And the thing i said about religion is dying off, thats was based on facts.
BTW: You don t need a religion to be a good person.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Captain,Simmonds [/i]
[B]Why do you think that you should control the world just becuase you are the most powerful in the world,??[/B][/QUOTE]
I wish we would have less of a presence in the international picture, I for one, would not be apposed to leaving the UN.
[QUOTE][B]Why do you think that you sould be exempt from the International Court ?[/B][/QUOTE]
I do not feel that way, nor have I seen any replies on this board suggestiong otherwise from any other members.
[QUOTE][B]Why do you think that you should Bully everone to supporting you, Either Militarily or Economically?[/B][/QUOTE]
"Bully"... WTF?
[QUOTE][B]Why do you think that everone is wrong, except you??[/B][/QUOTE]Don't remember every believing that. Actually, get more of an impression that some europeans take more of an attitude than Americans.
[qUOTE][B]Why do you think that people who hate america dont beleve in freedom or Democracy?[/B][/QUOTE]I don't think that, nor have I seen anyone here think that.
[QUOTE][b]Why do you think that everone wants to live in america Even tho that when people are ask in other countrys, if they want to live in america, They dont want to? [/B][/QUOTE]
I don't think that.
What exactly are you basing some of these questions on? Especially the last one. Talk about starting a flame war... that's all this post is aimed at. I bet a 10 year old could have phrased those questions better to make them less hostile.
Biggles<font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Captain,Simmonds [/i]
[B]Its not what america is doing to me, its what america is doing to the world.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Captain,Simmonds [/i]
[B]On Another note, People During the last Ice age, where not Very Barbaric they where just the same as us.[/B][/QUOTE]
eh... People now are more Barbaric...
You should hang in Corporate circles for a few years then you find out just how bad we have gotten...
Oh yeah...
(To Simmonds)
Answer the question properly, and stuff. Everyone has a reason for feeling something.
Hell, perhaps stop doing whatever it is you're doing and think about it for a few minutes. What is it, in more detail than just "US Foreign Policy" that makes you hate the US, not to mention Capitalism and Democracy (Among so many other things) so much?
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Shall I tell you what really worries me now? A little group called "The Project For The New American Century" that has links with most of your upper government. Apparently since Bush has come to power, they have persued their own projects, such as the development of small nuclear warheads and a 25% increase in military spending. Also, a lot of the people in this group are chairmen etc. of big companies such as Bechtel... And who has recently gotten contracts to reconstruct Iraq? One guess only.
And just for the hell of it, here is another piece of information I think you guys might find interesting.
In 1958, when the then government of Iraq started supporting the USSR, the CIA declared it was "One of the most dangerous countries in the world" and they decided it was time for a regime change. The CIA then sent a hitman to take out the Prime Minister of the time. Unfortunatly (for them) he killed the wrong person and ended up shooting himself in the leg, and then had to spend the next few years being bundled around CIA safe houses. The identity of the would be assassin? Saddam Hussein.
Anyways, I would advise people to watch a certain program called Bremner, Bird and Fortune if the chance ever arises- not only is the wit some of the sharpest I have EVER seen, it is hilarious and also completely accurate (lets face it- they couldn't get away with saying the stuff that they do if it isn't). It might not appeal to Americans or any other foreigners so much since a lot of it is British politics, but it is still brilliant.
Just for the record, I think there may be A god (I'm caught up in my theory of Human Uncertainty), but I think that most of the Religions around are based on visitation by advanced life forms. Read an interesting bit in a book about how the "Ancient of days" in the Old testament is in fact a machine that can produce food through micro organisms. Anyways, I have talked too much in this post already, but I will go with Biggles when I say I think ppl should be allowed to believe in what they want to as long as they don't force their opinions onto others.
According to the last Census in canada all of the major religions are on the decline, and have been for the lasy decade. And there is a Growing Number of people with out a religion.
And like I have said before, Religion would not be so bad it, people would let people beleve in what ever them hell they wanted to. And the world would be a better place.
Personaly I dont realy care what religion people are apart of
BTW: The soul pupose of religion was to bring people in a commuity togeter. But now its changed.
[QUOTE] Joe Stalin killed 30,000,000 of his own people to satisfy his own godless religion of Marxism.[/QUOTE]
I did not know Marxism is a Religion, I thought is was a Economical, And way those where the acts of one person.
Isnt Democracy Godless too.
See a bad spiral starting.
-R
[B]According to the last Census in canada all of the major religions are on the decline, and have been for the lasy decade. And there is a Growing Number of people with out a religion.[/quote][/b]Now, in the U.S., the Census is taken once every decade. I just checked, and it is the same way in Canada, so "a constant decline in religion over the past decade" is the same as saying "a decline since we last looked", except it's more misleading. There's nothing to say that it isn't a statistical anomaly, brought on suddenly and eventually fading away, with nothing "constant" about it. On the other hand, it could be a prelude to mass conversions to atheism and all remaining people claiming to be of any given faith being taken out and shot. Who knows?[quote][b]And like I have said before, Religion would not be so bad it, people would let people believe in what ever them hell they wanted to. And the world would be a better place. [/b][/quote]Excuse me? So your saying religion, a system of guidelines on what to believe (Don't sleep with your friend's wife, do help the less fortunate) would be fine if it allowed people to do believe whatever they wish (Screw the less fortunate! Speaking of which, I better go see my friend's wife...), defeating the entire purpose.
Unless, your speaking of the metaphysical aspects, which would remove the spiritual aspects entirely, making religion just another set of common law, and redundant in anyplace that already had a system of law (read: everywhere).
It may come as a shock, but religion has a system for people whose beliefs differ from the status quo, which is identical to that of governments, clubs, and poker tables. The system gives people two choices who don't like the way things are: Work towards change, or leave. Leaving is often most practical for those lacking in superhuman will and charisma. And the best part is, there's no shortage of alternate religions to choose from! Want a loving wife or six? The Mormons are over there, thank you. Believe Elvis should be a part of the Communion of Saints? Check out that group over there, you'll recognize them by the sideburns. Spent a past life as a yak, you say? I believe you'll want to head over to the Eastern religions, they may have something for you.
Get the picture? There's no point in letting people believe whatever they want in a given religion because (a) it defeats the purpose and (b) there's no shortage of alternate religions that may align more closely with your views.[quote][b]Personally I dont realy care what religion people are apart of[/quote][/b]Yes, because you think they are all idiot institutions of evil and hold them all in disdain, you've made that [i]abundantly[/i] clear.[quote][b]BTW: The soul pupose of religion was to bring people in a commuity togeter.[/quote][/b]Yes, I can see it now.
Caveman 1: Yes, Glag, what shall we do now to bring our tribe closer together?
Caveman 2: I have it, Stralg! We shall go and tell stories about an invisible, all-powerful man who created us, saved us from adversity, and gave us instructions on how to live clean, healthy lives and taught us to be kind to one another!
Caveman 1: No, that's to similar to what Mogh's tribe down the river is doing.
Caveman 2: Well, let's make our invisible man twelve invisible men and women instead! And we shall have them mate with everything around them and killing people in random acts of rage! That will surely bring our peoples together in peace!
Did I say that made sense to me, because I lied.[quote][b]But now its changed.[/quote][/b]Well, don't keep us in suspense man! Elaborate![quote][b]I did not know Marxism is a Religion, I thought is was a Economical, And way those where the acts of one person.[/quote][/b]Listen, when someone cares enough about making something work that he's willing to slaughter so many people for it, it's like a religion to him, even if he'll deny it.[quote][b]Isnt Democracy Godless too. [/B][/QUOTE] Not really. After all, only an act of God could allow the all the peoples of the United States (or any other country) to agree on anything. ;) Besides, doesn't the President swear on a Bible, and tend to invoke the name of God from time to time?
This is all nether here nor there, as democracy is a political system, not an economic one (which, as you so astutely pointed out, Communism is), and, more to the point, I don't believe there are any nations governed by democracies in the world, just democratic republics, in which the people elect representatives to represent their will in elections among themselves rather than inviting chaos with a full vote by everyone in the country on every little thing.
:)
[B]I don't think this thread is being constructive.
See a bad spiral starting.
-R [/B][/QUOTE]
Amen. Just can't seem to help themselves.
How about some sources on that Hussain hitman stuff? :rolleyes:
[B][/b] it could be a prelude to mass conversions to atheism and all remaining people claiming to be of any given faith being taken out and shot.
[/B][/QUOTE]
According to the Census only a few thousand people are atheist and humanist. And People Taken out and being shot, just becuase they have Faith, Thats just plain Stupid in many ways. ANd I dont realy think thats going to happen. I cant ever kill an ant without feeling bad about it.
[QUOTE]Yes, I can see it now.
Caveman 1: Yes, Glag, what shall we do now to bring our tribe closer together?
Caveman 2: I have it, Stralg! We shall go and tell stories about an invisible, all-powerful man who created us, saved us from adversity, and gave us instructions on how to live clean, healthy lives and taught us to be kind to one another!
Caveman 1: No, that's to similar to what Mogh's tribe down the river is doing.
Caveman 2: Well, let's make our invisible man twelve invisible men and women instead! And we shall have them mate with everything around them and killing people in random acts of rage! That will surely bring our peoples together in peace!
Did I say that made sense to me, because I lied.
[/QUOTE]
Atleast Men and Women where Equal in that religion:D.
On Another note, People During the last Ice age, where not Very Barbaric they where just the same as us. They where people Trying to Survive in a time when there was very little food and Resourses and its was Frezing cold. During this time a tirbe mite have 10-20 people in it. Also during this time small Villages Start to pop up of around 100 people or so in it.
Also people back then shaved aswell, Becuase Massive Facal hair could Frezz in the cold.
And I will have to say this, People have a right to beleve in what ever they want to. And its better that people accept and respect other people Religions. And lets hope religion does not go down the same road as it did in the past.
and my favorit Quote of mine: [i] "God Exist in the minds of the people who beleve in it"-me[/i]
BTW: I never said Religion is Evil
And for the last god damn time, Its hwhen people who do stupid things (assholes like Bin Laden, Stalin, Hiter, theres a long list) Start Killing a mass amount of people in the name of what ever religion, Polical/economical system it is wrong, and give it a very bad name.
I think That this Religion Debate is going no where,
[B]Amen. Just can't seem to help themselves.
How about some sources on that Hussain hitman stuff? :rolleyes: [/B][/QUOTE]
Who, Geraldo? ;)
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Captain,Simmonds [/i]
[B]I Do not Mean to start a flame war here. But is it does lead to one, I will Delete the post.[/B][/QUOTE]
Sorry, but if you didn't mean to start a flame war, the questions you posed wouldn't be so loaded and, I expect, offensive to many. The questions all seem to rely on some rather baseless assumptions, so I don't believe it would serve any good whatsoever to answer them. IMO, they're just as bad as the "our economy is looking up" propaganda I hear from DC.
[B]These are Opionions thats I hear alot about americans, I just wanted to know if americans where realy like that...... and they are not from what i have read. [/B][/QUOTE]
Those opinions you've heard are sweeping generalizations based on the same sort of ignorance that breeds racism and other hate, along with what probably creates extreme Islamists. Baseless hate. I cringe whenever I hear someone make a comment like that. The equating of the Polish with a lack of intelligence is another example, as is saying all Italians are in organized crime, etc. And yet, when an Italian politician made a comment about a German politician, describing him as the type who would make a good Nazi soldier, the German administration got all PO'd. Hypocrisy - it's yet another part of politics, world-wide.
"What has America done to make you feel this way?"
Be specific, don't give vague "feelings."[/b][/quote][/SIZE]
[B]According to the Census only a few thousand people are atheist and humanist. And People Taken out and being shot, just becuase they have Faith, Thats just plain Stupid in many ways. ANd I dont realy think thats going to happen. I cant ever kill an ant without feeling bad about it.[/B][/QUOTE]
You thinking it's stupid and not going to happen didn't seem to stop the Taleban.
[B]BTW: I never said Religion is Evil
And for the last god damn time, Its hwhen people who do stupid things (assholes like Bin Laden, Stalin, Hiter, theres a long list) Start Killing a mass amount of people in the name of what ever religion, Polical/economical system it is wrong, and give it a very bad name.[/B][/QUOTE]
I'm confused. You said this very thing was why "Religion its self is one of the greatist fuck ups in Human History", but now it seems you think their just horrid aberrations, and not the rules.
Jeeze. It makes it hard to argue when you change your opinions like that. Now I don’t know what you think! How am I supposed to argue?!
As to you never saying Religion is Evil, well, I don't think you appreciate how easy it is to go from "Religion its self is one of the greatist fuck ups in Human History" to "Religious people are the greatist fuck ups in the Human race" to "Religious people should be killed to prevent future up-fucking". That's why hearing such vehement opinions can worry me.
It doesn’t matter anyway. As long as you aren’t running down college students in tanks and chanting the benefits of the Little Red Book in lynch mobs, I can’t see any real gain in trying to change your opinion.
Where did i say that, I dont thing that.
[quote] running down college students in tanks [/quote]
That sounds like somthing someone i know would do.
"What has America done to make you feel this way?"
Be specific, don't give vague "feelings."[/b][/quote][/SIZE]
[B]
Jeeze. It makes it hard to argue when you change your opinions like that. Now I don’t know what you think! How am I supposed to argue?!
[/B][/QUOTE]
I have not change my opinion, I keep saying, That religion is a mess up. And i gave a reson to why religion is a mess up.
Its is a mess up becuase people sometimes take it a little to far, and sadly mass amounts of people end up dead. And I dont think that the person(s) who made the religion ment for that to happen. I never said that Religion is bad or evil just becuase its a religion. I ment that its bad when people take to to far, and people end up dead becuase of it.
Another opinion I said was, if people would let people believe in what they wanted to, and not force other people to their Religion(Forceing people into a religion from my POV, is wrong) the world would be a better place.
And the thing i said about religion is dying off, thats was based on facts.
BTW: You don t need a religion to be a good person.
I rest my case.
"What has America done to make you feel this way?"
Be specific, don't give vague "feelings."
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Its not what america is doing to me, its what america is doing to the world.
Happy
[quote]Be specific[/quote]
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Captain,Simmonds [/i]
[B]Why do you think that you should control the world just becuase you are the most powerful in the world,??[/B][/QUOTE]
I wish we would have less of a presence in the international picture, I for one, would not be apposed to leaving the UN.
[QUOTE][B]Why do you think that you sould be exempt from the International Court ?[/B][/QUOTE]
I do not feel that way, nor have I seen any replies on this board suggestiong otherwise from any other members.
[QUOTE][B]Why do you think that you should Bully everone to supporting you, Either Militarily or Economically?[/B][/QUOTE]
"Bully"... WTF?
[QUOTE][B]Why do you think that everone is wrong, except you??[/B][/QUOTE]Don't remember every believing that. Actually, get more of an impression that some europeans take more of an attitude than Americans.
[qUOTE][B]Why do you think that people who hate america dont beleve in freedom or Democracy?[/B][/QUOTE]I don't think that, nor have I seen anyone here think that.
[QUOTE][b]Why do you think that everone wants to live in america Even tho that when people are ask in other countrys, if they want to live in america, They dont want to? [/B][/QUOTE]
I don't think that.
What exactly are you basing some of these questions on? Especially the last one. Talk about starting a flame war... that's all this post is aimed at. I bet a 10 year old could have phrased those questions better to make them less hostile.
[B]Its not what america is doing to me, its what america is doing to the world.
Happy [/B][/QUOTE]
That doesn't answer the question.
[B]what about Apathyism, would that count ? :p [/B][/QUOTE]
I don't care about your Apythism...
;) :p :D
[B]On Another note, People During the last Ice age, where not Very Barbaric they where just the same as us.[/B][/QUOTE]
eh... People now are more Barbaric...
You should hang in Corporate circles for a few years then you find out just how bad we have gotten...
;)
[B]That doesn't answer the question. [/B][/QUOTE]
OKEY NOTHING to me. Its what the US is doing to the world I dont like.
My whole life is vague.
Anyway it was 3 am when i stared this thread, I was half asleep.
-R.
[B]I want to take over the world. Really. ;)
-R. [/B][/QUOTE]
Hey, I called it first! It's mine!
(To Simmonds)
Answer the question properly, and stuff. Everyone has a reason for feeling something.
Hell, perhaps stop doing whatever it is you're doing and think about it for a few minutes. What is it, in more detail than just "US Foreign Policy" that makes you hate the US, not to mention Capitalism and Democracy (Among so many other things) so much?