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Question for Americans

OKey I'm going to change this to why do you think your goverment is like this

Except a few Questions, which where based on a polls

I Do not Mean to start a flame war here. But is it does lead to one, I will Delete the post.


Why do you think that you should control the world just becuase you are the most powerful in the world,??

Why do you think that you sould be exempt from the International Court ?

Why do you think that you should Bully everone to supporting you, Either Militarily or Economically?

Why do you think that everone is wrong, except you??

Why do you think that people who hate america dont beleve in freedom or Democracy?


Why do you think that everone wants to live in america Even tho that when people are ask in other countrys, if they want to live in america, They dont want to?
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  • RickRick Sector 14 Studios
    In order of appearance:

    1. I don't think that.

    2. I don't think that, either.

    3. I don't think that as well, but I think France and Germany managed to stand up quite well.

    4. I don't think everyone else is wrong. I do thing that [b]anyone[/b] can be mis-informed at times.

    5. I don't know. Ask them.

    All that aside, you're making a fatal mistake: You're assuming that our Government's policies accurately represent the citizens of the country. Sadly, that is not always the case.

    Now, that aside, while I don't agree with the auspices of WHY we went into Iraq, I'm not going to cry about Saddam being out of power either. (The whole WMD thing was totally bogus)

    I also think that we need a radical adjustment to our mid-east policy...specifically how we seemingly back Israel carte blanche, and rarely stand up for what the Palestinians need...namely a homeland. I think that the last several administrations have catered to the Israelis a bit too much, and it's going to take more than "words of dissappointment" to help that region know peace.

    But I digress. I think the more important question here is:

    "What has America done to make you feel this way?"

    IMO. :)

    -R.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    America as a people hasn't really done anything. Your government, on the other hand...
  • C_MonC_Mon A Genuine Sucker
    As Biggles said!
    BTW what does "WHY" have anything to do with this? ;)
  • CurZCurZ Resident Hippy
    You say you don't mean to start a flame war. Well, then drop the flamethrower.

    That is some of the most hideous generalization I've seen... *holds his breath and walks away* :rolleyes:
  • WHYWHY Elite Ranger
    *shakes his head and walks away to play some SWG..*
  • A2597A2597 Fanboy
    Why do you think that you should control the world just becuase you are the most powerful in the world,??
    I certainly don't think that. It may appear that our government does, but I doubt even they want to.

    Why do you think that you sould be exempt from the International Court ?
    Don't think that either.

    Why do you think that you should Bully everone to supporting you, Either Militarily or Economically?
    Don't think that, true, we've done it, but alas, oh well...

    Why do you think that everone is wrong, except you??
    I REALLY don't think that.

    Why do you think that people who hate america dont beleve in freedom or Democracy?
    Don't think that either.


    Why do you think that everone wants to live in america Even tho that when people are ask in other countrys, if they want to live in america, They dont want to?
    I don't think everyone wants to live here, sheesh, there are times I don't want to.
  • FreejackFreejack Jake the Not-so-Wise
    Simmonds while this doesn't answer your question directly, I'm going to break with convention and say that the US [b]should[/b] project its power all over the world; we're just going about it in the wrong manner for often the wrong reasons.

    There is a duty to humanity that, now in an age where there is an ability, we still choose to ignore it and Europe is [u]just[/u] as guilty as the US in complacency. Around the world people die in bloody civil wars, and are oppressed by brutal regimes, yet we in the "western" world, for the most part sit idly by and do little, offering only token aid or policing.

    In this day and age when the wealthy nations have an ability through their advanced technology and wealth to really help these people. And while I say ability, I really feel it’s a responsibility.

    In the Congo, a bloody civil war has dragged on since 1998. During that time it has resulted in the lose of well over a million lives. A very significant portion of that number is civilians, not militia or military. Shouldn't someone who had the ability and the might worked to put a stop to the blood shed, either diplomatically or militarily.

    Many people were against the war in Iraq fearing massive casualties and bloodshed. What do you think had been happening under Sadam? Since he came to power, over 290,000 of his own people have disappeared. Is that not justification for the removal of a regime?

    Now I will agree that Bush used the wrong reasons for attacking Iraq. I do not believe WMDs and terrorism were a significant threat to the US or most of the world, but I do believe Sadam was a serious threat to his own people, and therein lies justification.

    I saw people who were against the war because they feared for the death of our soldiers or felt we should not be involved Iraq's internal affairs. What that says to me is this person feels that our soldiers or our internal affairs are more important than those of an ordinary Iraqi. We are all human; we all deserve a chance at life, not just Americans or Europeans.

    It is this point that drives me to the conclusion that the US should be doing more in the world not less. Yes we are currently going about it in a heavy-handed way. Yes we are still self-serving in attempts. And yes politics and greed are often more important than human life, but we are in a unique age, where the value of human life has been lifted higher than ever before, where we now know what goes on in the world. It will take time, but with increased knowledge and understanding (which we have more of than at any other time in history) it will improve further.

    If you ask me both the US and Europe do not do enough and guilty of the worst crime, apathy.

    Jake
  • KonradKonrad Ranger
    1 - "Think of it as evolution in action." LOL Controlling the world is not what US policy is all about - We believe in ensuring that every individual has a chance to control themselves.

    2 - Nations are there for a reason - cultural diversity - international law leads to countries dictating terms on each other - eliminating international diversity. It may seem like the 'court' is only a dispute resolver at first but soon it will take on a life of it's own because there is no way to keep it in check. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Many of the false concerns you have about US policy and it's 'world domination strategy' are why the US has no desire to be in the world court, it opens the door for manipulation.

    3 - See Ricks Comment - OR - The solution is don't do business, don't support the bombing of us, and have free elections - we'll leave you alone.

    4 - There is disagreement in our nation - no one thinks the same thing - However - I know you think everything you believe in is right - so you are guilty of the same thing.

    5 - "What?"

    6 - Double "What!?!"

    Careful everyone - the way he's asking open questions is a trap to catch you in a mistype or slip up so he can pound you.

    Nothing will ever be gained from this thread. I could do the same thing to him for example -
    How do you stop freeloaders in a communist economy? (without resorting to mass murder)
    How do you ensure free elections in a country where the existing government has total control of the economy and sees no benefit in having said elections.
    Why do some Canadians and Europeans make such gross generalizations?
    Why are some Canadians and Europeans so afraid of minorities and diversity.
    Why is Canada and Europe doing nothing to help the people in Africa, China, and the Middle East?
  • RickRick Sector 14 Studios
    Wait, did we bomb Canada again? ;) j/j

    btw, noone has answered the question: "What has America done to make you feel this way?"

    Just an observation.

    -R.
  • FreejackFreejack Jake the Not-so-Wise
    I'm with Rick on this one.

    For those of you who feel the US has overstepped it bounds, why do you feel that way?

    What specific actions do you believe constitute the US as an imperialistic or overbearing power in the world as opposed to a large nation with a strong economy and military?

    Jake
  • Captain,SimmondsCaptain,Simmonds Trainee trainee
    I Questions That I asked, some are my points of views, and some of them are POVs of people I know.

    Well Then, Why do you think your Goverment is doing these thing

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    Q: Why are some Canadians and Europeans so afraid of minorities and diversity.


    Ummmm..... I'm not sure about Europeans, But Canada is a prity diverse place, and diversity is very well promoted here in canada especially in toronto. Also the word multicultural in writen in the Charter of rights anf Freedoms.

    And I dont know anyone who is afraid of minorities and diversity.


    If I remember, the US was doing some Racial Profileing on the Canadian Border

    Q:Why is Canada and Europe doing nothing to help the people in Africa, China, and the Middle East?

    Ummm..... Canada is sending soilders back over to afganistan on a peacekeeping Mission this summer. The the Current peacekeeping Operation is Germen lead I beleve.

    I Beleve that France is Leading a peace keeping mission to Congo.

    Also Canada has sent aid to Iraq to help support Health Care, Clean Water ect, ect.

    And for your information, Canada and Figi Both Share a world record for PeaceKeeping


    Q: How do you stop freeloaders in a communist economy? (without resorting to mass murder)

    You always have to bring Communisum into this:D

    Make a Half Communist ,Half Capalist economy.


    If I remeber alot of ppl dont like the US's version of a Capalist Econmy.
  • RickRick Sector 14 Studios
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Captain,Simmonds [/i][B]Ummmm..... I'm not sure about Europeans, But Canada is a prity diverse place, and diversity is very well promoted here in canada especially in toronto. Also the word multicultural in writen in the Charter of rights anf Freedoms.

    And I dont know anyone who is afraid of minorities and diversity.

    If I remember, the US was doing some Racial Profileing on the Canadian Border[/b][/quote]

    If you want to see diverse, come to cvalifornia. Over half the businesses are multiethnic, and you can have food from any part of the world in a less than 10-minute drive from pretty much anywhere.

    I don't subscribe to this crap that "Americans are racially intolerant." What it should say is "The press likes to show Americans as racially intolerant."

    For the record, my wife is Chinese.

    Also: Of course they are racially profiling at the borders. Since, what was it, 10 of the 12 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudi, and all were ethnic middle-eastern, would it really make sence to pull a Brit or Franco-Canadian aside for closer examination?

    [b][quote]Ummm..... Canada is sending soilders back over to afganistan on a peacekeeping Mission this summer. The the Current peacekeeping Operation is Germen lead I beleve.

    Also Canada has sent aid to Iraq to help support Health Care, Clean Water ect, ect.

    And for your information, Canada and Figi Both Share a world record for PeaceKeeping[/b][/quote]

    Noone is debating that, Canada is a great ally, and a good world citizen.

    [b][quote]I Beleve that France is Leading a peace keeping mission to Congo.[/b][/quote]

    Don't get me started on that. That operation is totally PR only for the French government. They don't even have enough troops there to secure the capital, much less the whole country. And when they leave at the end of the summer, the power vacuum will make that small region fall to chaos once again. Chirac are only doing it so they can say "See? We have a unilateral force out there too..." (and by "they" I mean Jaques Chirac.)

    [b][quote]
    You always have to bring Communisum into this....Make a Half Communist, Half Capalist economy.[/b][/quote]

    Impossible. they work against each other at the most basic level. One relies on competition and opportunity as the motivator, the other takes that away. I debated this one in college. And if we're happy with our economic model, why should we change it? You're advocating the same policy that you claim our government is practicing, namely, dictating internal matters of state on a foreign power.

    [b][quote]If I remeber alot of ppl dont like the US's version of a Capalist Econmy. [/B][/QUOTE]

    What do you mean by "an American Version" of capitalism? Our model is based on equal opportunity to excel. That some people chose [i]not[/i] to take advantage of that, well, I have little sympathy for them. If a Chinese family who speaks little or no English, having little or nothing, can come over here and start a multimillion dollar asian grocery business, well, I'm sorry if the guy in the ghetto thinks "the man" is keeping him down, but, I don't buy it for a second. As they say in B5, "The future is what you make it." Take some damn responsibility for yourself.

    "Give a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime."

    Now, I'm not saying America is perfect, by a longshot, but it certainly is better tha totalitarianism, marxism, and dictatorships, because it allows everyone to have a say in matters of state and policy (though they won't neccessarily be adopted). True, policy may be slow to change, but I'll take that over the threat of getting my feet cained for saying "our leader is incompitent" in public any day.

    You've still failed to answer the question:

    "What has America done to make you feel this way?"

    Be specific, don't give vague "feelings."

    -R.

    BTW: I *do* think Bush is a twit, and I wish Gen. Colin Powell was President. But that has little bearing on this discussion.
  • RickRick Sector 14 Studios
    [QuOTE][i]Originally posted by Freejack [/i]
    [B]If you ask me both the US and Europe do not do enough and guilty of the worst crime, apathy.

    Jake [/B][/QUOTE]
    *Sigh* how true that is. We can only hope that more people will adopt a humanitarian perspective, and leave their religious and economic baggage at the door. IMO religion is one of (if not THE) biggest contributors to human misery and tragedy throughout history.

    Every religion believes itself to be right, the one "true religion of God." And from that they extract this deluded view that their "manifest destiny" gives them the authority to force their views on another. And, as a part of this crusade, breaking every law their religion holds suddenly becomes acceptable.

    It's not hard to see why athiesm is gaining popularity.

    -R.
  • PJHPJH The Lovely Thing
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Rick [/i]
    [B]*Sigh* how true that is. We can only hope that more people will adopt a humanitarian perspective, and leave their religious and economic baggage at the door. IMO religion is one of (if not THE) biggest contributors to human misery and tragedy throughout history.

    Every religion believes itself to be right, the one "true religion of God." And from that they extract this deluded view that their "manifest destiny" gives them the authority to force their views on another. And, as a part of this crusade, breaking every law their religion holds suddenly becomes acceptable.

    It's not hard to see why athiesm is gaining popularity.

    -R. [/B][/QUOTE]

    I share that opinion 100%.

    - PJH
  • CurZCurZ Resident Hippy
    Same here. But my reason for being an atheist is much more simple. I choose not to believe in something that doesn't make sense to me. I'd rather choose not to understand than choose to assume. I choose to accept the fact that I don't understand how or why the universe works, rather than assuming that some god is behind everything. I'll rather just wait and see.
  • A2597A2597 Fanboy
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Rick [/i]
    [B]*Sigh* how true that is. We can only hope that more people will adopt a humanitarian perspective, and leave their religious and economic baggage at the door. IMO religion is one of (if not THE) biggest contributors to human misery and tragedy throughout history.

    Every religion believes itself to be right, the one "true religion of God." And from that they extract this deluded view that their "manifest destiny" gives them the authority to force their views on another. And, as a part of this crusade, breaking every law their religion holds suddenly becomes acceptable.

    It's not hard to see why athiesm is gaining popularity.

    -R. [/B][/QUOTE]

    Tis true, Religion does cause many wars. However, if religion was wiped from the face of the earth, well...we'd fight over something else.
    Yes, every religion DOES see itself as the true religion, though not entires, you can easily lump Catholics/Protestants/Babtist/Christains/Presbyterians into a single group, as 99% of their beliefs are the same.
    For the most part, if people just FOLLOWED their religion there wouldn't be a problem, but then the radicals show up and ruin everything. However, IMO, Aetheism isn't the answer, because frankly I don't see any alternative other then to believe in God.

    My my, did those thread get off topic. :)

    hmm...way to get back on topic...

    AMERICA RULES!!!
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    wait...that may not be a good idea to say that here..hmmm....
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    DEMOCRACY RULES!!! :D
  • Captain,SimmondsCaptain,Simmonds Trainee trainee
    Hey your making it look like i'm some kind of anti Democracy person


    Now For Religion. from my point of view, Religion its self is one of the greatist fuck ups in Human History, Ever more so then Communism, and me:D. Why?? Becuase Alot of people of these Relgions Take it too far for the most point, and think that their relgion should be the only one, and all others should be wiped out.

    I think that Religions Started off like Starwars and Startrek, as fictional Literature But people Took it to far. Lets Just Realy HOPE, That Starwars and Startrek dont turned into Religions:D:D:D:D.


    Anyway, Religion is dieing off, The Number of people in Canada that dont have a Religion is rising, Right now its around 5 million people
  • Captain,SimmondsCaptain,Simmonds Trainee trainee
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Rick [/i]


    What do you mean by "an American Version" of capitalism? Our model is based on equal opportunity to excel. That some people chose [i]not[/i] to take advantage of that, well, I have little sympathy for them. If a Chinese family who speaks little or no English, having little or nothing, can come over here and start a multimillion dollar asian grocery business, well, I'm sorry if the guy in the ghetto thinks "the man" is keeping him down, but, I don't buy it for a second. As they say in B5, "The future is what you make it." Take some damn responsibility for yourself.

    [/QUOTE]

    But the sad part is that does not happen to everone who comes to Capitalist countrys and who live in capitalist countrys. Some of these people work very very hard, and make very little money, just enoff to make ends meat. Some people end up being born into poor familys, and they cant afford to get the edcuation they need to get a good job, Thats the other end of US Stlye Capitalism.

    [QUOTE]


    Impossible. they work against each other at the most basic level. One relies on competition and opportunity as the motivator, the other takes that away. I debated this one in college. And if we're happy with our economic model, why should we change it? You're advocating the same policy that you claim our government is practicing, namely, dictating internal matters of state on a foreign power.

    [/QUOTE]

    What I ment was, Lets Take the Good parts from Communisum, and the Good parts from Capitalism,
  • A2597A2597 Fanboy
    unfortually, communism will never work, its very basis is flawed. Even if every person owned the exact same house, had the exact same car, and made the exact same amount of money, they would still have things to complain about. His neighbors wife, Joe's kids, etc. No matter what there will always be the person you think has it all, in the end, its the same as today.

    That and the fact that NO one wants to work for nothing.
  • Captain,SimmondsCaptain,Simmonds Trainee trainee
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by A2597 [/i]
    [B]unfortually, communism will never work, . [/B][/QUOTE]

    People use to Say That about Democracy.


    Anyway, What would you Rather Live in? a Communist Country or a Facist Country?
  • RickRick Sector 14 Studios
    Honestly? I'd rather be dead.

    -R.
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    WHY should I bother replying to those questions when they don't apply to me and several multiple million other people?

    Calling that Gross Generalization is generalization in and of itself.

    -Jack
  • David of MacDavid of Mac Elite Ranger Ca
    First off (or really, last off, because I’m writing this after I finished going over my post) [b]Captain,Simmonds[/b] could you please, please, [i]please[/i] run your posts through a spell checker before you put them up? I make it a habit for mine, and whenever I quote something by you, the machine catches more of your errors than it does of mine.

    Thank you. Now back to your regularly scheduled post.

    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Captain,Simmonds [/i]
    [B]Hey your making it look like i'm some kind of anti Democracy person
    [/quote][/b]Nope. That's all you.[quote][b]Now For Religion. from my point of view, Religion its self is one of the greatist fuck ups in Human History, Ever more so then Communism, and me:D. Why?? Becuase Alot of people of these Relgions Take it too far for the most point, and think that their relgion should be the only one, and all others should be wiped out. [/b][/quote]Show me where, say, the Judeo-Christian Bible says that, if only because I don't have a copy of the Qur'an handy. Now, I won't deny that quite a few dirty rotten bastards throughout history have found a way to interpret "Love your neighbor as you love yourself" as "Kill whoever you want, and you'll get Eternal Heavenly Booty for it", but those are mainly the exceptions, not the rules. Pointing to them as reasons why religion is "The Greatest Fuckup of Human History" is about as valid as saying Atheism is "The Greatest Fuckup of Human History" because Joe Stalin killed 30,000,000 of his own people to satisfy his own godless religion of Marxism.

    But let's not go into that. Let's go into how religion got this reputation as being the greatest evil on earth, despite having over [url=http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html]five billion adherents[/url], who, unless I missed the sudden happening of five out of six people in the world being psychotic religious fundamentalists, go through life causing a minimum of bloodshed.

    You ask me, this "Religious people are xenophobic murderers" feeling came into vouge with particularly insecure militant atheists because of two things, namely the Crusades, and Jihads.

    The Crusades, which basically consisted of the Catholic church of the 1000s deciding to go and "reclaim the Holy Land", which, thanks to the aforementioned psychotic bastards, took the form of burning, stabbing, and stomping upon the Middle East. This was a bad thing, and I take as much shame and responsibility for these acts as any Catholic can who was born a millennium after the fact.

    But the thing that really is fresh in people's minds are the Islamic Jihads. That's what really brought home the idea that religion is evil to the, um, something like a sixth of the population. Does that count as "the masses"? I don't know.

    Back to the Jihad thing. Thanks to these well-publicized "Holy" wars started by a small minority, people have gotten the impression that this sort of thing is a lot more common among the religious than it is. Allow me to provide some phases you might hear in a world where that was true.

    "That bastard at the Fruit Shop short changed me! A jihad on him!"

    "Hey, watch where you're going, a jihad on you!"

    "That asshole on channel twelve news just made his last stupid pun, 'cause I'm making a jihad on him!"

    "How many jihads you go going today, Dad?" "About, twenty seven, I think. Damn, it's getting hard to keep up, isn't it?"

    Needless to say, this sort of thing does not happen very often. I can only think of one thing that would move me to declare an impromptu jihad, and it's rather academic anyway, since I'm not a muslim.[quote][b]I think that Religions Started off like Starwars and Startrek, as fictional Literature But people Took it to far.[/quote][/b]Really? I always figured that if religion was a purely man made institution, it started off as more of a self-help thing (Don't eat this, clean yourself regularly, be kind to your fellow man, and spend an hour reminding yourselves of these things every week so you don't forget and start declaring holy wars on cashiers with poor math skills), with that God and Afterlife thing thrown in to sweeten the deal and spice up the parables.

    On the other hand, if religions were, as I believe, inspired by the works and commands of a supreme being, I would think it probably started off as more of a self-help thing (Thou shalt not eat this, thou shalt clean yourself regularly, thou shalt be kind to your fellow man, and thou shalt spend an hour reminding thouself of thine commandments every week so thou doth not forget and start making war on moneychangers with poor math skills), with parables thrown in so that even people who didn't believe in the metaphysical facets of the Book could still take away valuable life lessons from it.[quote][b]Anyway, Religion is dieing off, The Number of people in Canada that dont have a Religion is rising, Right now its around 5 million people [/B][/QUOTE]Wanna bet? Religion has been here for six thousand years, and fulfills a vital spiritual need in many a person. I doubt that it's going anywhere.

    'sides, if your really thought that it was dying off, you wouldn't spend so much time badmouthing it. You would be content just to watch from a distance snickering quietly and allowing religion to rest in peace.
  • Why do you think that you should control the world just becuase you are the most powerful in the world,??

    I don't. I think it's ridiculous that the politicians (read the president) seems to think that we're the only ones in the world and seem to be in charge of the world. I hate that. Emphisis on hate.

    Why do you think that you sould be exempt from the International Court ?

    I don't believe we should be exempt. What kind of precidence does that set? That we're above the law? People argue that it undermines the consitution. The constitution doesn't follow the flag people, you commit some atrocity in a foreign nation, you're under their jurisdiction which to me means the internation court.


    Why do you think that you should Bully everone to supporting you, Either Militarily or Economically?

    I don't think we should. Thats what democracy is, the right to have a dissenting opinion. But thats just the way it is, and has always been throughout history.


    Why do you think that everone is wrong, except you??

    Dude, we're wrong a lot of the time.


    Why do you think that people who hate america dont beleve in freedom or Democracy?

    Dunno.


    Why do you think that everone wants to live in america Even tho that when people are ask in other countrys, if they want to live in america, They dont want to?


    wait what?


    Just remember, the government doesn't represent everyone. And in this current case, they don't even represent the majority.
  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Rick [/i]
    [B]You've still failed to answer the question:

    "What has America done to make you feel this way?"

    Be specific, don't give vague "feelings."

    -R.[/QUOTE]


    Bump.
    Personally, I think this is the best question in this thread.
    I'd like to see it answered.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    If you ask me, debating about religion is all rather pointless. Everyone is entitled to believe in their own religion, and they should in no way be forced to believe in someone else's. If you want to follow your own personal religion that says that all religions are stupid and pointless, go right ahead. Just don't force your views on the rest of us.
  • LogicSequenceLogicSequence Elite Ranger
    ok, i haven't read every post here, but i offer my humble opinion (as an american) just the same.

    I'm not gonna address the specific points, but just point out the following...
    Again, please keep in mind that (at least at the moment) the US is controled by a political party not in tune with the majority of american citizens. And that especially translates to younger people. The Views expressed by the current ruling party reflect sometimes 180 degree opinions from that of the youth of the US. The people in charge are people from a different time, when the world worked in different ways. And in my opinion they are scared to let go of those ways, and thus use their power as a last ditch attempt to make things "the way it was".

    Also i think you can fault the current administration with wanting one thing, MONEY. Their PERSONAL lust and greed for money (i.e. OIL) has led them to a campaign of propaganda in the US to convince us that the actions they take to further that goal of acquiring money, is in out own best intrest, and that of the rest of the world, when in fact it most likely is not. The problem is, propaganda is very effective... especially on those who are niave and still beleive that the government (any government) is truely there to PROTECT and SERVE them, tha happens to only be something that's "good for business".

    Now as for the smug "we're better than you" attitude people from other countries accuse the US of having is... well... only half true. I agree, there are some who will always think they are better than everyone else, but then again that's true in every land. But i think the main thing in america is again, a lot of propaganda, especially from the american news agencies... Often other countries are portrayed as sub par and "3rd world" even when they are not.. and again those who are niave (or simply unaware) buy into that. Also it is an inherant trend of complacency that people start to think along the lines of going about the business of THEIR lives. And in THEIR lives the only place that immeadiately affects them is the country (or state) they live in... This leads (over time) to seeing the country they live in as "THE WORLD". This attitude gets so ingrained into everyday life that it's like a bad habbit thats hard to break.

    Now, as for Iraq.... OIL. Our president wants it, he thinks he's all that, so he went for it. And he did an excellent job of convincing americans it was about weaposn of mass destruction, and our safety, and the safety of the world... so we bought it, and there u go. Basically it was an international game of who's d*ck is bigger played by our stubborn, uninformed, unilateral, unfocused president, and a very cranky dictator from Iraq. But i suppose national security did play some role... i mean some day, some how, some where Iraq might have thrown a rock at us and got us mad or something, better to deal with them now so we can feel safe.... and that brings me to my next point... safety. A lot of americans are obsessed with being safe. They fear the unknown, and let that fear overwhelm them. And thus anything that will make us "safer" is 'OK'.

    Now as for religion.... this is my OPINION, don't go calling me a heritic or whatever...

    Religion was created by man FOR man. as a way of control and installing a popular set of values on people. It is a product of a bygone era. Its purpose was to scare people into doing what was held as the right thing... and in many regaurds was a good thing as it led people to become better people. However it makes one fundamental mistake, it assumes you must scare people into doing the right thing, that they will not do the right thing on their own. When in fact if u leave people be, i think u'll find that 95% of people are inherantly good. The world has changed and evolved beyond a point where it religion is needed. The values and views of 2000+ years ago are not the values and views held now, so why should we continue to strictly adhear to them? and it all falls back to my previous statement that people FEAR the unknown. and religion is a way to make everything nice and comfortable and KNOWN. well that's not the universe folks. theres alot of unknown. the trick is to try to UNDERSTAND it, not fear it. EMBRACE the unknown... yes there's always risk, but that's part of life, you can't avoid it forever.

    And in closing, as a very dear minbari once said "we are all star stuff", so get over the petty differences that divide us and look at the big picture, the future.
  • C_MonC_Mon A Genuine Sucker
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Biggles [/i]
    [B]If you ask me, debating about religion is all rather pointless. Everyone is entitled to believe in their own religion, and they should in no way be forced to believe in someone else's. If you want to follow your own personal religion that says that all religions are stupid and pointless, go right ahead. Just don't force your views on the rest of us. [/B][/QUOTE]

    Got to agree with Biggles.
  • Vertigo1Vertigo1 Official Fuzzy Dice of FirstOnes.com
    Re: Question for Americans

    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Captain,Simmonds [/i]
    [B] Why do you think that you should control the world just becuase you are the most powerful in the world,??[/b][/quote]

    Erm....I don't.

    [quote][b]Why do you think that you sould be exempt from the International Court ?[/b][/quote]

    I don't.

    [quote][b]Why do you think that you should Bully everone to supporting you, Either Militarily or Economically?[/b][/quote]

    See previous answer.

    [quote][b]Why do you think that everone is wrong, except you??[/b][/quote]

    See previous answer...again

    [quote][b]Why do you think that people who hate america dont beleve in freedom or Democracy?[/b][/quote]

    Who said we do? :confused:


    [quote][b]Why do you think that everone wants to live in america Even tho that when people are ask in other countrys, if they want to live in america, They dont want to? [/B][/QUOTE]

    The majority of the cause of that belief is the large influx of immigrants we recieve per year.....
  • C_MonC_Mon A Genuine Sucker
    I got it! Now I know why sometimes I feel about USA the way I do. It's the media. When USA attacked Iraq the news showed a clip of Bush saying something like, we are a free people and we will bring freedom to them by any means necysery.etc.etc.

    As said befor, it's the govornment that gives that expresion.
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