Centauri Primus... Choices Choices

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• Morte Earthforce Officer

  June 2003

  I reckon version 7 is closest, but the GP texture needs darkening.
• LogicSequence Elite Ranger

  June 2003

  well in 'the fall of night' the panels are burgendy...ish. and kinda light purple-grey... hence my attempts above... i kinda did the purple ones on my own... i like #7 too... but what do u mean by GP?? i don't know the abbreiviation...
• Morte Earthforce Officer

  June 2003

  Sorry it's a term I use- don't know where I picked it up. GP is just short for Generic Pannelling- like the bits in the Bin'Tak, Th'Nor etc. that are just plain plating.
  I'll go over my B5 collection tonight and have a look at the colours though- as the old saying goes "an extra pair of eyes..." ok, don't know the rest of it but you get the point :)
• Indie Moderator

  June 2003

  Did you try it in different systems? The lighting in the system can have quite an impact on the colors.
  
  I like the purple ones too.
• LogicSequence Elite Ranger

  June 2003

  well with LW u can make any color paneling you want, as i did with the pics above, i just can't get the base RGB color right... GRRRR i'm thinking i may just take the season 2 dvd and snap a pic of the primus and take that color as a base...?
• Roi Danton Moderator

  June 2003

  Version 6
  
  IMO the lightning of the grey areas of version 6 looks the best but that could be caused to the angle of the starlight.
  I would take V6.
• LogicSequence Elite Ranger

  June 2003

  i like either 6 or 7.... i just dunno... has anyone looked at 'the fall of night' to see what i mean?
• LogicSequence Elite Ranger

  June 2003

  There are essentially 2 versions of the primus availble in the mod, a standard primus that replaces the command section, and a primus equipped with a mass driver (and emperial viewing chamber) that replaces the heavy corvette. If you choose the mass driver version, you have to give up 4 of your 8 ion cannons, but it may be worth it ;). anyways, take a look...
  
  updated screenshots:
  
  [IMG]http://mods.firstones.com/buda5/iwar2/images/1.jpg[/IMG]
  
  [IMG]http://mods.firstones.com/buda5/iwar2/images/2.jpg[/IMG]
  
  [IMG]http://mods.firstones.com/buda5/iwar2/images/3.jpg[/IMG]
  
  [IMG]http://mods.firstones.com/buda5/iwar2/images/4.jpg[/IMG]
  
  [IMG]http://mods.firstones.com/buda5/iwar2/images/5.jpg[/IMG]
  
  [IMG]http://mods.firstones.com/buda5/iwar2/images/6.jpg[/IMG]
  
  [IMG]http://mods.firstones.com/buda5/iwar2/images/7.jpg[/IMG]
  
  [IMG]http://mods.firstones.com/buda5/iwar2/images/8.jpg[/IMG]
  
  [IMG]http://mods.firstones.com/buda5/iwar2/images/9.jpg[/IMG]
• Roi Danton Moderator

  June 2003

  WOW ... looks fabulous! It's a little bit helpful for my motivation after fighting against stupid bugs in my mission code the whole evening w/o much success :mad: .
• Indie Moderator

  June 2003

  Whoa!
  
  Impressive! :)
  
  Battle for the Narn homeworld is now doable... ;)
• LogicSequence Elite Ranger

  June 2003

  pictures from the first post are now back up :)
• LogicSequence Elite Ranger

  June 2003

  i'm waiting for the poll results to release officially, but do u guys want a beta copy to play with? maybe script a little narn centauri test fight? LOL
• Roi Danton Moderator

  June 2003

  *g* not for that especially, but for my mission
  
  ... YES, IMMEDIATELY PLEASE!!!! :)
• LogicSequence Elite Ranger

  June 2003

  OK, here's a version of the [URL=http://mods.firstones.com/buda5/temp/centauri_primus_FOR_DEVELOPERS_ONLY.zip]Centauri Primus FOR DEVELOPERS ONLY[/URL]. (BEWARE: almost 12 Mb) remember, standard primus replaces the command section, primus minus 4 ion cannons, but with a mass driver replaces the heavy corvette. Have fun, tho remember she's still not "completely" finished... still gotta get that texture thing worked out... GRRRR.... oh and don't freak if the mass driver doesn't fire right away, it has a 25 sec reload.
  
  Be careful with her too! i don't wanna see any scratches on her when i get her back! Ohh.. and if you go and wrap her around a space station or something, u better have good insurance, cause u're gonna be paying alot of credits. and when you give her gas (petrol for my british friends) make sure to ease the clutch... oops... wait.... wrong model... ;)
  
  anyways, have fun... script away.....
  
  P.S.
  DON'T RELEASE IT, IT'S NOT DONE!
• Morte Earthforce Officer

  June 2003

  How does it go again? Accelerator to the floor, clutch straight up? ;)
  Good job man :)
• LogicSequence Elite Ranger

  June 2003

  ahhh no!!! u'll burn out her gravimetric drive in be in hella trouble! whilst you float off the deck plating and become little more than a pretty purple sting ray in space that's standing perfectly still ripe for narn pillaging!
• Morte Earthforce Officer

  June 2003

  Arrrr, I do be the renowned Narn space Pirate G'...errr.. Narn! All your Primus' are belong to us ;)
• LogicSequence Elite Ranger

  June 2003

  um... the plural of primus is.... um..... hmmmm... umm.... :: thinks to himself... radius.... radii.... :: ummm.... primi? :rolleyes: so technically all of our primi belong to you... but that sounds like were letting you have a bad variation of spoo or something... ... oh well, lol
• Morte Earthforce Officer

  June 2003

  Ah, ye olde English :)
  Wait... what's this I smell? Chips! Time to feast on the flesh of... I mean time to eat ;)
• Morte Earthforce Officer

  June 2003

  Ok dude, here's some feedback for the primus from the beta version:
  I still reckon your Generic Pannelling could use a little darkening since it looks a bit weird as light as it is (might just be personal preference)
  I think those front Ion Cannons that are manual fire should really be turrets, and on the subject of turrets, they should rotate as well iff possible.
  I don't know if there's actually a hangar in the CGI version, but the front looks a bit weird just ending as it does.
  Finally the size is prohibitive! Try and reduce it a bit so us unfortunates with 56k modems can download it in less than an evening ;)
  I realise this is work in progress, just though you could use some feedback. Apart from those things, it's all good, an excellent model :)
• LogicSequence Elite Ranger

  June 2003

  if you watch the fall of night the front ion cannons were the first to fire at b5 and they did not turn or anything, hence my decsision to make those the manual ion cannons. plus using the back ones as manual would make more problems when we go into weapons arcs b/c they'll have to fire thru the ship and that would look... welll... bad...
  
  as for the turrets, what do u mean they should turn? they do turn.. they're turrets... they turn and move up and down and shoot, LOL that's what they do....
  
  as for the hanger, anywhere that you see a tech schematic or specs of the primus says it carries 12 sentri fighters... it's the only ship (canon ships, i.e. primus vorchan) that can carry fighters, as the vorchan is too small. and not only is that the most logical place to be the launch bay... it's also listed as the launch bay on specs :)
  
  as far as the paneling, what do you mean by darkening? u mean more sharpness? see the panels more defined? or do you litteraly mean you want them darker?
• Sanfam I like clocks.

  June 2003

  My comments :D
  
  Have you tried darkening and/or desaturating the purple slightly? After just watching some episodes of B5, I've seen the primus a few times now, and I think the major improvements this model would use would happen to be the above. The color right now gives a very artificial look to it. Almost a too-bright-to-be-real skin on the current model. By darkening and/or desaturating (I'd suggest desaturating first) the purple hull, the color contrast between the two isn't nearly as harsh as it is on the model pictured above. Also, the hull this model has as a gunmetal grey are actually very slightly tinted gold in the show.
  
  Really great job so far, though :D
• LogicSequence Elite Ranger

  June 2003

  ok... look for yerselves and tell me what u think.......
  
  [B]"the coming of shadows": Royal Liner: [/B]
  
  [IMG]http://mods.firstones.com/buda5/temp/royal_liner1.jpg[/IMG]
  [IMG]http://mods.firstones.com/buda5/temp/royal_liner2.jpg[/IMG]
  
  
  [B]"and now for a word": Standard Primus: [/B]
  
  [IMG]http://mods.firstones.com/buda5/temp/battle_primus1.jpg[/IMG]
  [IMG]http://mods.firstones.com/buda5/temp/battle_primus2.jpg[/IMG]
  
  
  [B]"the fall of night": Standard Primus: [/B]
  
  [IMG]http://mods.firstones.com/buda5/temp/battle_primus3.jpg[/IMG]
  [IMG]http://mods.firstones.com/buda5/temp/battle_primus4.jpg[/IMG]
  [IMG]http://mods.firstones.com/buda5/temp/battle_primus5.jpg[/IMG]
  [IMG]http://mods.firstones.com/buda5/temp/battle_primus6.jpg[/IMG]
  [IMG]http://mods.firstones.com/buda5/temp/battle_primus7.jpg[/IMG]
  [IMG]http://mods.firstones.com/buda5/temp/battle_primus8.jpg[/IMG]
• The Merciful Earthforce Officer

  June 2003

  Good you have your own DVDs, so I don't need to post ref pics. You propably can see all this yourself, but here's my 2 cents anyway... :D
  
  The latter, 'regular', version from the show is definetly better looking. Comparing to your colours, I think your purple parts are too blue. Slide the palance more to red (and you may or may not want to dirty up the colour a bit with very light brown or grey or something or not at all - I don't know!) The 'grey' areas in the show version also have a clear purple tint which your version lacks. That purple tint gives ship harmony on it's coloring. Your colours are also more "flat" - the show has more different shades in various area's of the paneling. That makes it more lively.
  
  It also might help if we had reflections and specularity on our game version's hull. Again, that would make the hull more lively. But I suppose you haven't found the secret for that yet... :(
• The Merciful Earthforce Officer

  June 2003

  Re: Centauri Primus... Choices Choices
  
  [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by LogicSequence [/i]
  [B]anyone!!! even.... ::shudder:: merciful.... just don't go on a tirade please... lol[/B][/QUOTE]Hmph! I don't go on tirades. I cut the to the point, ask guestions, point things I think could be improved, keep it short and try to suggest things if I can. I am far too lazy to go on a tirade (unless my dictionary lies and 'tirade' means something utterly else). :mad:
  
  *cracks the whip*
  
  :D :D :D
• LogicSequence Elite Ranger

  June 2003

  oh i've known all along what the colors SHOULD be, i just cant get the damn things right!!! UGGGGH... all you have to do is take some generic paneling, apply it to the diff setting, and a color as the texture setting in lightwave,... problem is, i can't get the correct base color and it's driving me nutz!!!
  
  As far as diff and spec textures in EOC, as far as i know, EOC only accepts plain old texture mapping. you can use glow textures of course, but that's no help in this case... and you can apply reflection, but you can only have 0% or 100% reflection..... limits limits....... :: shrug :::shadow1:
• LogicSequence Elite Ranger

  June 2003

  [SIZE=4]?????????????????????? UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/SIZE]
  
  ignore the panels with emblems.
  
  [IMG]http://mods.firstones.com/buda5/temp/primus/newprimus.jpg[/IMG]
• Roi Danton Moderator

  June 2003

  VERY GOOD!
  
  Colors looks good!
  
  Unfortunately the I-War engine doesn't support Bump Mapping so the textures would look like real metal.
  So, like Meriful mentioned, could you use [b]specular lightning[/b] to let the textures look a little bit like metal?
• Sanfam I like clocks.

  June 2003

  Great job on that last one! Just beautiful!
• LogicSequence Elite Ranger

  June 2003

  what do u mean? use spec lighting when i make the texture or in EOC itself? cause you can't do it in EOC. and to get the spec texture to come thru your lighting has to reflect of the surface at an angle, and that will leave half the texture bright, and the other almost black.
  
  PS.
  u guys really liked that one!??! i thought it was HORRIBLE! lol
  
  
  EDIT:
  panels are the spec texture, TEXTURE is the normal texture.
  
  [IMG]http://mods.firstones.com/buda5/temp/spec_test.jpg[/IMG]