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New version of the cockpit mod

The Claw
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Posts: 251
Registered: Nov 2001
posted 06-01-2003 02:43 PM
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Ok, I have finally managed to upload a new version of the cockpit mod- I've been trying since yesterday but my connection kept breaking down
Anyways, it's a 450kb file, and the necessary modifications to flux.ini are in the scale.txt file. This version should make everything look less "big" than the original, have the cockpit in a position more accurate to the original and also includes a modified version of the storm petrel for instant action which I modified to allow easy usage with the mod.
I'd greatly appreciate any feedback, including on how the scaling should be altered, the camera movements etc.
I'm also hoping that this will help with the using of fighter beams without having to scale everything up
You can grab it [url]http://members.lycos.co.uk/bensfingerofdoom/[/url] Unfortunatly my host won't let me directly link to the site, and you will have to copy the link to my site into the address bar. The mod is under the cockpit_test link instead of the other one.
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The Claw
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Posts: 251
Registered: Nov 2001
posted 06-01-2003 04:52 PM
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Right, I've just finished testing my mod with the ship pack thingy Logic released, and it's still near impossible to hit fighters with beams.
There are several ways I can think of off the top of me head for dealing with this: 1) to use a combination of view and ship scaling 2) To increase the view scaling to something approaching my original cockpit mod (though this has it's own problems I'll explain in a minute) 3) to simply increase the size of all the ships or 4) to see if there is a way to create guided fighter beams (I don't know if this is possible, but I'm thinking of something along the same lines as how fake beam turrets were implemented).
Each has it's own problems, the view scaling in that the more magnified everything is, the more sensative the controls become. If you reduce the sensativity of the controls, you lose maneuverabilty. The Ship scaling means that the measurements will be out of sync on the HUD (though this is a very small problem). Failing the appearance of guided fighter beams, I would suggest either 1 or 3.
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"I love the British for three reasons. One, we always beat you at rugby. Two, your wives are always welcoming and hospitable. Three, you fought like devils to save us" Old french bloke in my uncles pub.
"I do be the pirate of this here bus! Arrrrrrr!" An overactive me. Just before me and the other guys doing aircraft maintenance began singing "I'm dreaming of a white christmas"

Comments

  • The MercifulThe Merciful Earthforce Officer
    After byuing the second season DVD and wathcing the last episode of it, I got an idea for the cockpit. Would it be a good idea to have the central monitor done as (perhaps red) translucent texure, so that player could see trough it? Call it camera view or something. My reasoning being that it would solve the problem of what diagrams should be on the monitor and the visibility out of the cockpit would improve at least a litle. Perhaps just have the border line thingies and pilot name as in the Starfury camera view as when Keffer found the Shadow ship and died.

    Would it work?
  • LogicSequenceLogicSequence Elite Ranger
    Don't know for sure, but i can give you a pretty educated guess about what the outcome will be: Not gonna work the way you want it to. If you just make a straightforward transparent section, EVERYTHING textured on that section will be transparent, and any writing will be barely visible. Same applies to a glow texture, if you set the transparency high, it's gonna wash out the image. But still try... it MIGHT work
  • LogicSequenceLogicSequence Elite Ranger
    RESULTS : PRETTY MUCH WHAT I EXPECTED.

    TEST 1: Control: Standard Texturing
    [IMG]http://mods.firstones.com/buda5/devtemp2420/test1.jpg[/IMG]


    TEST 2: Standard Texturing, 75% transparent.
    [IMG]http://mods.firstones.com/buda5/devtemp2420/test2.jpg[/IMG]


    TEST 3: Glow Channel Texturing, 75% transparent.
    [IMG]http://mods.firstones.com/buda5/devtemp2420/test3.jpg[/IMG]
  • MorteMorte Earthforce Officer
    Hmmm... might be a stupid question, but did you activate the glow channel by renaming the textures, and is that different surfaces?
  • LogicSequenceLogicSequence Elite Ranger
    of course i activated the glow, and yes it was a cube with 3 different sides. i just know how things in EOC react, like i said in the previous post, i could have told you it would look like that. And because i forgot to mention be4, there's no way to have a completely transparent surface with glowing (or even non glowing) textured areas on it (i.e. a transparent control panel with words on it.) B/c FLUX applies the transparency to ALL layers, so if something is 100% transparent, yer gonna see nothing, no matter what you do.
  • MorteMorte Earthforce Officer
    No worries mate, I knew what I was on about- I was getting confused with FS2 modding just about then.
  • Roi DantonRoi Danton Moderator
    @Merciful: Nice idea.

    @Logic: The Glow Channel Texturing (3rd pic) looks IMHO the best.
  • The MercifulThe Merciful Earthforce Officer
    Thanks Roi.

    Logic, of the pics the red square of the 3rd pic looks close to what I imagined what monotor's colour should be. I don't think it matters if text is translucent or not, or if it is actually readable or not. Just something to make the panel look more like a monitor and less like a window. There is other options for that purpose I can think of. One is the +-pattern of the maintenance bot camreras. Like this (perhaps less dence though):

    + + + + + + + + + +
    + + + + + + + + + +
    + + + + + + + + + +


    My biggest worry is that the panel will end up looking like a windshield or window anyway, rather than a monotor, even if with text or +-pattern.

    At any rate, the idea is out there. If it works, good and if it doesn't, then it doesn't.
  • LogicSequenceLogicSequence Elite Ranger
    well keep in mind for the 3rd pic the camera is rotated to where there is a brighter background... so that might make everything look brighter...? anyways, i mean if u like how it looks i suppose we can go with it... i just think it's gonna end up looking like a windshield like merciful said. the transparency effect in EOC was made to mimic GLASS cockpits, that's why i'm thinking it's gonna look... icky.
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