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Enterprise was neat... (may contain spoilers)

A2597A2597 Fanboy
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*Spoiler*

I lived how they had the movie tie in to bring on the Borg. Great idea! :) overall very cool episode. :)

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  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    What episode are you talking about?
  • MessiahMessiah Failed Experiment
    I dont like it. The feds shouldnt meet the borg until NG.
  • A2597A2597 Fanboy
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Messiah [/i]
    [B]I dont like it. The feds shouldnt meet the borg until NG. [/B][/QUOTE]

    But they pulled it off perfectly! NG era borg in Enterprise. It makes sence the way they had it. Afterall, the borg sphere DID crash down on earth before the time of Enterprise. :)

    And Biggles, the latest episode.
  • Vorlon Ambassador KoshVorlon Ambassador Kosh Vorlonforce Officer
    Indeed a very nice ep, one of the best so far imo. Gotta love eps with "firstcontacts" more or less :vorlon:
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by A2597 [/i]
    [B]But they pulled it off perfectly! NG era borg in Enterprise. It makes sence the way they had it. Afterall, the borg sphere DID crash down on earth before the time of Enterprise. :)

    And Biggles, the latest episode. [/B][/QUOTE]

    The Borg were nowhere near that quadrant of space until TNG time. Plus, if you're referring to the Borg sphere in First Contact, it didn't crash down on Earth, it was destroyed in orbit.
    The fact that they are totally ripping continuity to shreds in Enterprise and are unable to make something that doesn't use aliens they are not supposed to have net yet is saddening. It was bad enough with the Ferengi...
  • SotonSoton Trainee
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Biggles [/i]
    [B]The Borg were nowhere near that quadrant of space until TNG time. Plus, if you're referring to the Borg sphere in First Contact, it didn't crash down on Earth, it was destroyed in orbit.[/B][/QUOTE]

    There would still be a large amount of debris left over in a relatively low earth orbit. And objects in those kinds of orbits have a tandency to crash. (Remember Skylab?)
  • David of MacDavid of Mac Elite Ranger Ca
    I was absolutly astonished when I realized halfway through that[i] it didn't suck!
    [/i]
    Plus it gives a somewhat plausable explanation why the Borg were skulking around kicking the crap out of Romulan outposts in the first season of TNG.
  • ZocaloHoboZocaloHobo Ranger
    Yes.....it was a good episode....now if they would keep making them that way instead of the "Alien of the Week" filler crap.

    Also did you notice the soundtrack? It almost sounded B5ish. Note, almost B5ish.
  • samuelksamuelk The Unstoppable Mr. 'K'
    So basically, Q, the omnipotent omniscient being from The Next Generation was completely wrong, and humans HAD met the Borg before.

    These guys really need to stop rehashing old plot lines and screwing up their own continuity.
  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    This *is* alien of the week, though.

    It's just not a new one.
  • WHYWHY Elite Ranger
    uhhh.. Sam, that was wrong since "First Contact"
  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    I think that's his point. :P
  • WHYWHY Elite Ranger
    meh... Don't get me started on the "Relics"-"Generations" thing :p
  • StrikerStriker Provided with distinction
    *tsk* tisk*

    I added the spoiler part to the thread topic. Y'all ruined it for me! =) I haven't watched it. It's still sitting on my TiVo.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    I find it extremely hard to believe that they would know nothing about the Borg in the 24th century when they get thrown [b]a very very long way[/b] outside of 24th century known space and run into them. What happens in first contact is entirely plausible since only the woman they took to the ship saw them, and Cochrane was the only other one they told about them. These two intelligent people would be sensible enough to not start telling everyone they met about people and cyborgs from the future.
    However, if cyborg beings who assimilated people were discovered 70 years later, it seems extremely unlikely that Picard would not know about it when Q introduced him to the Borg in the 24th century, and at least be reminded of that incident.
  • David of MacDavid of Mac Elite Ranger Ca
    Well, the Borg changed their MO after Q-Who. First they were interested in technoligy only, and didn't give two damns about organisms. They didn't start assimilating people until "The Best of Both Worlds". So we would have Picard equating a cybernetic species that traveled in cubes collecting technoligy with a cybernetic species that traveled in modified stolen ships collecting people.

    Eh.
  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    I highly doubt the borg didn't have assimilation of beings as a high priority. It just seems wrong, considering how big the collective is.
  • samuelksamuelk The Unstoppable Mr. 'K'
    Whether or not Picard (or any other human) knew about the Borg isn't the point.

    The fact that [i][b]Q[/b][/i] didn't know that the Borg had encountered humans back then just ruins the whole idea of Q's being a practically omniscient being. Q clearly stated that the Borg were an alien race that humans had never encountered.
  • David of MacDavid of Mac Elite Ranger Ca
    Well, we all know Q never tells anyone the [i]whole[/i] truth. He wouldn't be Q if he didn't go and misrepresent a fact, or exaggerate in the intrests of drama.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Yeah, but Q would be far more likely to find someone they actually hadn't met than to pretend they'd never met the Borg before.
  • samuelksamuelk The Unstoppable Mr. 'K'
    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by David of Mac [/i]
    [B]Well, we all know Q never tells anyone the [i]whole[/i] truth. He wouldn't be Q if he didn't go and misrepresent a fact, or exaggerate in the intrests of drama. [/B][/QUOTE]

    That's a terrible cop-out, and not logical at all. Q wouldn't have lied about something like that because it makes him look like a fake and a fool.
  • TerraFrostTerraFrost Trainee
    i didn't like this episode myself...

    how is it that the crew of the enterprise could overcome threats that they couldn't overcome in the 24th century? dr. phlox curring himself!? gah!

    plus, the crew of the enterprise encouters an alien species that can turn a tiny shuttle pod into a warship to rival enterprise in a matter of hours / days, and starfleet then just happens to forget about it? i'm aware the borg didn't say that they were the borg, but... if archer was able to connect the aliens cochrane spoke of to these aliens, why couldn't data, or someone on the crew of the Enterprise-D make the same connections to the aliens they encountered in System J-25? i mean, archer is probably going to have *much* more detailed reports of the borg than cochrane did. i would think it would be *easier* for the crew of the Enterprise-D to pick up on it, actually.

    now, on some other message boards i post to some people have suggested other ideas... like perhapes someone forgot to back up the files... yeah... sure... i can imagine history just forgetting about WW2 because someone forgot to "back up files". (i'm being sarcastic). and if they classified the info. on the borg... why wouldn't they unclassify it in the episode "Best of Both Worlds"? was the secret of the borg more important than the federation, itself? i doubt it.
  • Captain,SimmondsCaptain,Simmonds Trainee trainee
    I found the Ep. to be cool, With the borg
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